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    I like these five.

    Marcos Ambrose
    Tony Stewart
    J.P. Montoya
    Jeff Gordon
    Clint Bowyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    only 3 drivers odds have moved since opening, so besides those every1 else the exact same

    ambrose, bowyer, and now gordon

    and not 1 driver's odds has got better yet
    in other words, par for the course

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    they should start getting better odds on the mid-range guys soon though since most all bets will be on top 5 guys this week

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    wish they would put up the H2H soon so i can pick me out an early 1 solid pick to ride this week

    think there will be some good value in them this week

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    I like Kyle......I'll jump on if it gets to +1500.....I really like his chances.....He has to have a fire under his buttt after 3 DNF's in a row....

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    if he gets better odds i would consider him, but not now for me either paul

    after he won here, he hasnt even finished in top 10 since in last 3 years..and add on all the problems of that team right now

    KYLE has only finished better than 8th place 1 time in his whole career at sonoma

    may find better value in H2H than winning
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    AMBROSE wins $1 million for childrens miracle network hospitals charity if he wins sunday

    another great reason to route the aussie on this weekend
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    I will be playing Ambrose.....Doubt his odds are going to improve as of now....I'll probably throw a few more bucks on it to make up for me being asleep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    AMBROSE wins $1 million for childrens miracle network hospitals charity if he wins sunday

    another great reason to route the aussie on this weekend
    So the race might be rigged?


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    dont get the nba crowd in here with that word!

    hahahah

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post


    dont get the nba crowd in here with that word!

    hahahah
    Sorry. I had too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yisman View Post

    ok you're on

    my two bets are longshot Fords Kenseth and Biffle
    Thanks Yis.

    I think Biffle is a decent smokey chance too.


    Reutimann used to be SCARY useless on the road courses, but he is VASTLY improved over the last 2 years so might actually turn out to be a decent dog bet H2H, against someone like Ragan (if they give us that)

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    I like these five.

    Marcos Ambrose
    Tony Stewart
    J.P. Montoya
    Jeff Gordon
    Clint Bowyer
    Ya really going out on a limb with that roster Looker!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Thanks Yis.

    I think Biffle is a decent smokey chance too.


    Reutimann used to be SCARY useless on the road courses, but he is VASTLY improved over the last 2 years so might actually turn out to be a decent dog bet H2H, against someone like Ragan (if they give us that)
    Do we know for sure if Reutimann running. As looking at entry list his name not on it and # 10 car drive listed as to be announced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Ya really going out on a limb with that roster Looker!
    That's my exact roster for the esn fantasy game lol

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    cant wait to see the H2H matchups this week

    going to hammer a few i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Ya really going out on a limb with that roster Looker!
    It's a road course. What you expect?

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    what do u guys think about kurt b. or kahne as a longshot?

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    Ambrose maybe a drop though. Odds suck, and I have a feeling he doesn't win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post

    Do we know for sure if Reutimann running. As looking at entry list his name not on it and # 10 car drive listed as to be announced
    I meant to say I doubt he will run anyway. They should line up Fellows for the #10 or someone like that. Perfect car for a ringer.

    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post

    That's my exact roster for the esn fantasy game lol
    Can we afford that 5?!

    Might be a few ties this week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    what do u guys think about kurt b. or kahne as a longshot?
    Both could go either way. (why I used them both for picks game this week)

    I'm not betting on Kurt at any price this week though.

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    I need some damn track action. Roll on the weekend...

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    kahne has 1 win, and hes the best qualifier of anybody outside the top 2 or so...he maybe a decent longshot with some kind of a chance in hell of being up front late

    im just searching for another longshot....maybe dinger too...he won rolex 24 this year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I need some damn track action. Roll on the weekend...
    I agree

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    im PUMPED for this weekends action in both series

    road america and sonoma


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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    kahne has 1 win, and hes the best qualifier of anybody outside the top 2 or so...he maybe a decent longshot with some kind of a chance in hell of being up front late

    im just searching for another longshot....maybe dinger too...he won rolex 24 this year
    Biffle has 6 good finishes form 9 starts here. +5500 seems a little over the odds to me.

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    I like Kahne as a longshot.......Driving a Hendrick car has to be a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Biffle has 6 good finishes form 9 starts here. +5500 seems a little over the odds to me.
    i agree, but i just dont think he can win the race..never even had a top 5 finish before

    55-1 is long as hell though...hmmmmm

    maybe a good underdog H2H too

    im ready too see those, even though 75% of them wont be posted til raceday

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    looked at bowyer to win group C too (+300) (logano, biff, McMurray, and Jr.)

    but i want to see H2H race matchups and qualifying matchups before i would consider a group winner this week

    think ill take a qualifying matchup or parlay this week since qualifying is enjoyable here if i see something i really like

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    Agree Biff is a real longshot. He has had a couple of top 5s though. 06 and 07.

    Was thinking about the Group C Bowyer bet too, but think +300 is too skinny and all it will take is one of the other guys to qualify well and we should get better than that, and I can;t see it gettign any lower.

    Kahne is +120 against Ambrose in quali at greek....

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    looking at wrong stat in my notebook...srry...looking at qualifying not finishes

    still dont think he can win the race though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I meant to say I doubt he will run anyway. They should line up Fellows for the #10 or someone like that. Perfect car for a ringer.



    Can we afford that 5?!

    Might be a few ties this week!

    100million on the nose

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    yeah im saw that matchup too

    hope its different at 5dimes as they have alot of different H2H than other books for the race, but they all the same 5 H2H usually for qualifying damn it

    thats a toss-up between kahne and ambrose in qualifying...both ALWAYS qualify top 8 or better so definatley a no-play for me
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    ambrose 8th, 6th, 3rd, 7th

    kahne 6th, pole, 5th, pole

    the last 4 years qualifying at sonoma

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    Yeah, I get the feeling Marcos is more concerned with a good starting position than pole most years here.

    I'll probably take the Kahne quali odds.

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