SONOMA--5mike5

[Vegas39]

From 40mins to 47 mins is a good example of why I like McDowell so much.

Chasing down Villeneuve in the lead, consistently out braking the "braking master" and even when it was obvious McDowell was faster and with 3/4 of the race to go, Ville just can't make the smart decsion and let him go. Ends up letting the chasers catch them, and then put himself off and losing 3 spots instead of one.

Thanks opti

[5mike5]

yeah those are top 3 choices

are my top 2, if mcdowell odds are good enough may take him or leave for H2H

all depends on the odds for me

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Thanks opti

From 1hr 3min you can see how McDowell handles the same situation in opposite. Let's Villeneuve pass then hangs on his bumper as thye race away from the field.

Before Ville is penalized for an error on the earlier restart.

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Almost certain I will be taking Mcdowell for 4units, Piquet for 1 unit... then minimum to break even on Ville and Fellows. and 'possibly' Kurt.

[MatI]

From 40mins to 47 mins is a good example of why I like McDowell so much.

Chasing down Villeneuve in the lead, consistently out braking the "braking master" and even when it was obvious McDowell was faster and with 3/4 of the race to go, Ville just can't make the smart decsion and let him go. Ends up letting the chasers catch them, and then put himself off and losing 3 spots instead of one.

That sounds like JV!

Thanks for posting the race, will watch this when I get home tonight.

[Vegas39]

Almost certain I will be taking Mcdowell for 4units, Piquet for 1 unit... then minimum to break even on Ville and Fellows. and 'possibly' Kurt.

Going out to see what McDowell is here at moment

Thanks again Opti

[shaunovery]

Thanks opti just watched all of that great race bizarre ending wasnt sure who won

[5mike5]

taking more than 2 people usually not wort it in nationwide imo

and dont think ive ever used a cover wager...id rather do a H2H parlay or something

not sure i can back McDowell off 1 race he had a good showing in..just have to see the odds

Vill. is in the #22 PENSKE again which is great

and fellows is running the #5 this yime for RICK HENDRICK

the mcdowell is in #18...still not sold but maybe his odds will be bad

[Vegas39]

No nationwide odds up at stations here yet.

Ambrose not fave in cup

Gordon 3-1

Ambrose 4-1

Threw some on Ambrose and small play on Newman @ 50-1

[5mike5]

Las vegas sportsbooks has the WORST odds on the planet when it comes to nascar

if u bet nascar u need to get offshore...even if u won ur losing ALOT of money by not using an offshore book

say gordon won this week, u bet at 4-1 and we bet at 8.5-1?

just a suggestion

and thats every single week they are so much worse

[Vegas39]

Las vegas sportsbooks has the WORST odds on the planet when it comes to nascar

if u bet nascar u need to get offshore...even if u won ur losing ALOT of money by not using an offshore book

say gordon won this week, u bet at 4-1 and we bet at 8.5-1?

just a suggestion

and thats every single week they are so much worse

Usually do but at times they are off on road courses. But for most part you are correct

[5mike5]

oh i didnt know if u bet offshore or not vegas39 ..my suggestion not needed then...LOL

yeah every week i look u would get killed betting in casino, especially from what onlooker tells me too

even on the road course odds this week..

[Vegas39]

oh i didnt know if u bet offshore or not vegas39 ..my suggestion not needed then...LOL

yeah every week i look u would get killed betting in casino, especially from what onlooker tells me too

even on the road course odds this week..

True stations used to be bad at road course Odds had Ambrose at 15-1 when he killed car under caution? But do use 5 dimes too. Especially my qualifying bets

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not sure i can back McDowell off 1 race he had a good showing in

It's not just one race. He was running near the front in 2010 too before his engine blew up. He also came up as a road racer, karting and open wheel champion.

[Vegas39]

It's not just one race. He was running near the front in 2010 too before his engine blew up. He also came up as a road racer, karting and open wheel champion.

I will be on him, love to find it near 15-1

[5mike5]

just saying his odds need to be closer to 10+-1 for me to think about him

i have to bet my profit bets on the best guys on a road course, cause im not taking 'cover" bets for a nationwide race, especially road course

if his odds are good enough ill take him too , if not no way im backing him

[Vegas39]

just saying his odds need to be closer to 10+-1 for me to think about him

i have to bet my profit bets on the best guys on a road course, cause im not taking 'cover" bets for a nationwide race, especially road course

if his odds are good enough ill take him too , if not no way im backing him

guessing he will be in 10-1 area at 5dimes he is that at thegreek

[5mike5]

everything at 5dimes is at least little better, so ill give him a chance at better than 10-1

so probably 12-1 my guess

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I just watched last years Sonoma. I had forgotten how dominant Kurt was. Both Penske cars were good all weekend. Each topping a practice session.

It was all about the new tires last year though, so maybe we shouldn't put too much stock in that. It's hard to watch the race and not think the Penske cars will be strong again though.

You are right that my memory was over estimating how good Jimmie was last year too Mike.

[Vegas39]

everything at 5dimes is at least little better, so ill give him a chance at better than 10-1

so probably 12-1 my guess

Could be they are usually pretty damn close on nationwide odds

[5mike5]

closer than cup, 5dimes kills the greek cup odds(actuallu no book better than 5dimes openers) on every single driver

its closer than cup, but 5dimes still better every week on almost every driver than greek

i got logano better than a full point better when i won with him at 6 and 7-1 at 5D

[Vegas39]

I just watched last years Sonoma. I had forgotten how dominant Kurt was. Both Penske cars were good all weekend. Each topping a practice session.

It was all about the new tires last year though, so maybe we shouldn't put too much stock in that. It's hard to watch the race and not think the Penske cars will be strong again though.

You are right that my memory was over estimating how good Jimmie was last year too Mike.

They were but can't get myself to throw money on AJ

[5mike5]

yeah jimmie is NOT that good,,,hes better than alot, but nowhere near top level on road courses

this is a drivers track way more than whos car u are driving too

i lie AJ as a longshot better than most of them, but not becuase hes at penske now

[5mike5]

i would never bet just cause "penske" was good last year on road course

kurt busch has always been a great top road racer, and bk was just 10th place..penske car isnt the reason he was dominant

driver>team everytime on a road course imo

[Vegas39]

i would never bet just cause "penske" was good last year on road course

kurt busch has always been a great top road racer, and bk was just 10th place..penske car isnt the reason he was dominant

driver>team everytime on a road course imo

I think you need a balance of both. Robby Gordon a great road racer but be shocked if he gets a top 15

[Vegas39]

Opti give me the F1 winner this weekend . Leaning Hamilton

[5mike5]

I think you need a balance of both. Robby Gordon a great road racer but be shocked if he gets a top 15

thats becuase his equipment is just terrible

most anybody on a "decent" team u dont have to worry bout that

im talking just becuase ur in a penske car doesnt mean u have a better chance of winning compared to RPM t a road course

this is much more a skill track than the glen is

[5mike5]

i told opti 1 of these days i would force myself to watch an F1 race

i need to come through on my promise...lol

[Vegas39]

thats becuase his equipment is just terrible

most anybody on a "decent" team u dont have to worry bout that

im talking just becuase ur in a penske car doesnt mean u have a better chance of winning compared to RPM t a road course

this is much more a skill track than the glen is

Agree there insert other 2 RCR cars will be bad as Harvick will run up front

[Vegas39]

i told opti 1 of these days i would force myself to watch an F1 race

not sure when though

Going to F1 race in Texas later this year

[5mike5]

ill get around to watching F1 race sometime

just the parts ive seen wasnt really the kind racing i personally like

never 1 time saw a side by side battle...most time they arent even close, and when they were just passed them asap..but like i said, never watched more than a few minutes in my life

scenery they race at is awsome though

[Vegas39]

Well do it damnit

[5mike5]

Well do it damnit

i will soon...

[MatI]

Don't do it this weekend! Valencia is one of the more boring race tracks. You will never try an F1 race again!

[5mike5]

Don't do it this weekend! Valencia is one of the more boring race tracks. You will never try an F1 race again!

ok

u tell me what race to watch and i will