SONOMA--5mike5

onlooker · 06-19-12, 09:43 AM

I like these five.

Marcos Ambrose
Tony Stewart
J.P. Montoya
Jeff Gordon
Clint Bowyer

yisman · 06-19-12, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

only 3 drivers odds have moved since opening, so besides those every1 else the exact same

ambrose, bowyer, and now gordon

and not 1 driver's odds has got better yet

in other words, par for the course

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 09:48 AM

they should start getting better odds on the mid-range guys soon though since most all bets will be on top 5 guys this week

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 09:50 AM

wish they would put up the H2H soon so i can pick me out an early 1 solid pick to ride this week

think there will be some good value in them this week

Reno Paul · 06-19-12, 09:51 AM

I like Kyle......I'll jump on if it gets to +1500.....I really like his chances.....He has to have a fire under his buttt after 3 DNF's in a row....

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 09:55 AM

if he gets better odds i would consider him, but not now for me either paul

after he won here, he hasnt even finished in top 10 since in last 3 years..and add on all the problems of that team right now

KYLE has only finished better than 8th place 1 time in his whole career at sonoma

may find better value in H2H than winning

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 10:07 AM

AMBROSE wins $1 million for childrens miracle network hospitals charity if he wins sunday

another great reason to route the aussie on this weekend

Reno Paul · 06-19-12, 10:11 AM

I will be playing Ambrose.....Doubt his odds are going to improve as of now....I'll probably throw a few more bucks on it to make up for me being asleep.

onlooker · 06-19-12, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

AMBROSE wins $1 million for childrens miracle network hospitals charity if he wins sunday

another great reason to route the aussie on this weekend

So the race might be rigged?

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 10:25 AM

dont get the nba crowd in here with that word!

hahahah

onlooker · 06-19-12, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

dont get the nba crowd in here with that word!

hahahah

Sorry. I had too.

Optional · 06-19-12, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by yisman

ok you're on

my two bets are longshot Fords Kenseth and Biffle

Thanks Yis.

I think Biffle is a decent smokey chance too.

Reutimann used to be SCARY useless on the road courses, but he is VASTLY improved over the last 2 years so might actually turn out to be a decent dog bet H2H, against someone like Ragan (if they give us that)

Optional · 06-19-12, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by onlooker

I like these five.

Marcos Ambrose
Tony Stewart
J.P. Montoya
Jeff Gordon
Clint Bowyer

Ya really going out on a limb with that roster Looker!

Vegas39 · 06-19-12, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Thanks Yis.

I think Biffle is a decent smokey chance too.

Reutimann used to be SCARY useless on the road courses, but he is VASTLY improved over the last 2 years so might actually turn out to be a decent dog bet H2H, against someone like Ragan (if they give us that)

Do we know for sure if Reutimann running. As looking at entry list his name not on it and # 10 car drive listed as to be announced

shaunovery · 06-19-12, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Ya really going out on a limb with that roster Looker!

That's my exact roster for the esn fantasy game lol

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 10:43 AM

cant wait to see the H2H matchups this week

going to hammer a few i think

onlooker · 06-19-12, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Ya really going out on a limb with that roster Looker!

It's a road course. What you expect?

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 10:45 AM

what do u guys think about kurt b. or kahne as a longshot?

onlooker · 06-19-12, 10:48 AM

Ambrose maybe a drop though. Odds suck, and I have a feeling he doesn't win.

Optional · 06-19-12, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Do we know for sure if Reutimann running. As looking at entry list his name not on it and # 10 car drive listed as to be announced

I meant to say I doubt he will run anyway. They should line up Fellows for the #10 or someone like that. Perfect car for a ringer.

Originally posted by shaunovery

That's my exact roster for the esn fantasy game lol

Can we afford that 5?!

Might be a few ties this week!

Optional · 06-19-12, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

what do u guys think about kurt b. or kahne as a longshot?

Both could go either way. (why I used them both for picks game this week)

I'm not betting on Kurt at any price this week though.

Optional · 06-19-12, 10:52 AM

I need some damn track action. Roll on the weekend...

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 10:53 AM

kahne has 1 win, and hes the best qualifier of anybody outside the top 2 or so...he maybe a decent longshot with some kind of a chance in hell of being up front late

im just searching for another longshot....maybe dinger too...he won rolex 24 this year

Vegas39 · 06-19-12, 10:54 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I need some damn track action. Roll on the weekend...

I agree

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 10:56 AM

im PUMPED for this weekends action in both series

road america and sonoma

Optional · 06-19-12, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by 5mike5

kahne has 1 win, and hes the best qualifier of anybody outside the top 2 or so...he maybe a decent longshot with some kind of a chance in hell of being up front late

im just searching for another longshot....maybe dinger too...he won rolex 24 this year

Biffle has 6 good finishes form 9 starts here. +5500 seems a little over the odds to me.

Reno Paul · 06-19-12, 10:59 AM

I like Kahne as a longshot.......Driving a Hendrick car has to be a plus.

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Optional

Biffle has 6 good finishes form 9 starts here. +5500 seems a little over the odds to me.

i agree, but i just dont think he can win the race..never even had a top 5 finish before

55-1 is long as hell though...hmmmmm

maybe a good underdog H2H too

im ready too see those, even though 75% of them wont be posted til raceday

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 11:10 AM

looked at bowyer to win group C too (+300) (logano, biff, McMurray, and Jr.)

but i want to see H2H race matchups and qualifying matchups before i would consider a group winner this week

think ill take a qualifying matchup or parlay this week since qualifying is enjoyable here if i see something i really like

Optional · 06-19-12, 11:13 AM

Agree Biff is a real longshot. He has had a couple of top 5s though. 06 and 07.

Was thinking about the Group C Bowyer bet too, but think +300 is too skinny and all it will take is one of the other guys to qualify well and we should get better than that, and I can;t see it gettign any lower.

Kahne is +120 against Ambrose in quali at greek....

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 11:17 AM

looking at wrong stat in my notebook...srry...looking at qualifying not finishes

still dont think he can win the race though

shaunovery · 06-19-12, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Optional

I meant to say I doubt he will run anyway. They should line up Fellows for the #10 or someone like that. Perfect car for a ringer.

Can we afford that 5?!

Might be a few ties this week!

100million on the nose

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 11:18 AM

yeah im saw that matchup too

hope its different at 5dimes as they have alot of different H2H than other books for the race, but they all the same 5 H2H usually for qualifying damn it

thats a toss-up between kahne and ambrose in qualifying...both ALWAYS qualify top 8 or better so definatley a no-play for me

5mike5 · 06-19-12, 11:23 AM

ambrose 8th, 6th, 3rd, 7th

kahne 6th, pole, 5th, pole

the last 4 years qualifying at sonoma

Optional · 06-19-12, 11:26 AM

Yeah, I get the feeling Marcos is more concerned with a good starting position than pole most years here.

I'll probably take the Kahne quali odds.