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  • s2230011
    SBR Sharp
    • 06-14-10
    • 368

    #1
    League Capping
    League season is upon us and thought I would open a discussion on what everyone looks for. I know last year there was a guy on here that had a model and was testing it .. It would be interesting to know what he was looking for. I crunched some numbers over the last 3 years and here are some findings, its not that exciting but thought I would share it anyway.

    Over the last 3 seasons avg total points is 40.9 points a game.
    Round Games:
    2011 => 39.03
    2010 => 42.18
    2009 => 41.59

    Finals => 39.55

    I always thought night games were lower scoring, and they are by over 2 points a game

    Night games => 40.25
    Day games => 42.53

    I broke the season up into 3 groups, Rounds 1 -10 - then SOO period Rds11 - 18 and then the last 8 rounds (19-26) and the results were :

    Rds 1-10 => 40
    Rds 11-18 => 38.45
    Rds 19-26 => 43.75

    I always had a feeling of betting unders and underdogs with the points during origin period would be profitable, looking at this there is a reasonable edge towards unders in that period.

    I dont have any data over what the lines were for these games, and of course that would make it alot more interesting, so if anyway knows where I can get closing lines for league that would be great.

    I also found that betting favourites blindly you would have been better off than underdogs, but neither is recommended

    Another angle I was thinking about was the fact that it is always said that tries are scored off back to back sets, so is there any relation between penalty count and points scored? If that is the case are there any referees (or a combination of referees, now that we have two) that award more penalties than others?

    Your thoughts?
  • hawley
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 05-10-10
    • 14270

    #2
    The guy had a model which predicted the winner of the match aye? His thread shouldn't be too hard to find as there are not too many threads in this section

    I think h2h he was producing decent results but ATS can't remember.



    I like your thoughts on Refs but I doubt we will ever find this sort of data around?
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    • That Guy
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-13-12
      • 973

      #3
      Hey mate,
      Appreciate your finds and thoughts!
      I think if you purely go off patterns or statistics you're chasing a red herring.. Half of it is gut instincts and the rest learnt knowledge (players / coaches / injuries) & statistics.
      I've gotten way caught up in digging for data in the past, searching for patterns and making wrong decisions based purely on patterns.

      In saying that, I have a model that I'm using to support my capping this year. % of overs / unders per team is handy.
      Ie - Manly is a classic 'under team' with 68% last year. With minimal changes this year I'd favour them heavily for the under against other 'under teams' like Melbourne.
      Data like that is handy. Also looking at previous years Round 1 is extremely favorable for over plays.
      I've allocated scores per player for over / unders so when players change sides the data comes with them.
      As such I'd still be wary of plays on teams with heavy player or staff turnover this year (ie- Newcastle) until you can establish a model for them.
      Last year I got around 65% with my model and I'm aiming higher this year.

      There is limited data that I can find for NRL capping, whereas NBA etc.. are overloaded with every man and his dog selling stats. Good luck with your models and thanks for sharing the info.

      Hopefully with all the knowledge we can beat the common enemy this year - the bookies.
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      • benrama
        SBR MVP
        • 01-19-11
        • 1499

        #4
        Good thread mate. I think NRL is highly suited to situational capping, but I've been interested in doing a model based on fantasy points to capture the overall strength of a team, and use this in conjunction with basic stats and public perception to make plays - just don't have the time to do it, but I think it would be a solid way of capping. Also think it would be interesting to compile a relative home ground advantage and away ground disadvantage for teams. For a side such as NQ last season this can be profitable.

        Overall though I think AFL is more promising for modeling, a higher number of scores mean less variability to luck and refereeing/umpiring decisions. I'm still looking at modeling that for the upcoming season and trying it out from week 5 or so onwards.
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        • aussieH
          SBR MVP
          • 02-04-11
          • 1188

          #5
          Ground conditions are a big variable in afl and NRl to a much lesser extent.
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