Horse Racing questions and answers

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 01:56 PM

Oh yeah

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 07:22 PM

Hey , I was just typing in another thread and the name Rudy Rodriguez came up, it sent my mind to trainers I haven’t seen during all this... I’d be upset laying up my horses for $100 a day , not getting a run, and there’s many trainers coming to mind now ...

Speaking of laying up, Untitled’s half brother my buddy owns , he was over today and Kenny McPeek called. He cutting the lay up fee from casse’s $110 - $80 and be 50/50 partners after his tendon heels.

When they bred the horse , worked right with untitled , I’m like a kid in a candy shop , listening to him receive a call from Mr. McPeek, & then call Mr. Casse.

But I got off track, anyway, these barns that aren’t shipping to run, should us handicappers , receive them different than a normal layoff? I would think a healthy horse on layoff , can hurt their progress when coming back...

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 08:04 PM

when I was looking up untitled's pedigree on equibase as I wanted to see who the sibling was noticed that there's a french bred 3yo with the same name. by an elite euro sire out of a galileo mare..big time pedigree. .has yet to run

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 08:14 PM

This one is better bred, thAn untitled, on the farm in Florida , Brent and mike couldn’t decide which one was better. But Mr. McPeek said even if this one is half of untitled they will make money.

The tendon issue , should be fine in 2 months , had surgery several months ago

I have workout videos on my old phone , between those two...

Let me see if I can access those

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 08:17 PM

Kenny McPeek , purchased a big farm in summer field , Flr..,

Said the breeding alone could be huge money

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 08:24 PM

so this is an older sibling?

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

so this is an older sibling?

Let me confirm , first...

I’ll get back to you

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 08:29 PM

okay

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 08:41 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

okay

GinaBlu is the Broodmare

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

GinaBlu is the Broodmare

says she has foaled 2 horses.. a 4yo colt by jp's gusto who hasn't run yet and a 5yo mare who's15-2-0-6

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 09:05 PM

I have the video on my phone

I don’t know how to paste it

It’s a 21 & 4 Work

Than McPeek just took from Casse

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

I have the video on my phone

I don’t know how to paste it

It’s a 21 & 4 Work

Than McPeek just took from Casse

ok if you can figure it out do it.. untitled is an exciting prospect.. I looked back in the female family (let me say I'm no expert, just find it interesting).. the 2nd dam is a full sib and a half to sib to two major horses and was not a bad runner herself.. some real pedigree power there

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 09:19 PM

and khozan by distorted humor out of monster royal delta.. it's no surprise he's so good imo

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 09:20 PM

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 09:27 PM

oh so this must be as a 2yo last year at the ocala breeders sales.. str would recognize the value of this more than me but obviously that's moving.. khozan definitely a sire to watch.. sure his fee is going to go up big time

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 09:28 PM

Untitled ran shorter went 10.2 1/8

GinaBlu IS daughter of Bluegrass cat

this one will go longer under Kenny MCPeek

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Untitled ran shorter went 10.2 1/8

GinaBlu IS daughter of Bluegrass cat

this one will go longer under Kenny MCPeek

yeah I saw.. when you go to pedigree query they show you the dam sire.. your buddy's struck gold here in a really short spell.. hopefully this one recovers well

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 09:54 PM

Yes he did,

were texting now

McPeek , told him to design his silks

this is crazy

but as a little guy, it’s easy to chase to success

trying to advise , take the win

you hit grand slam off the bat,

singles are still ok , lol

**JBEX** · 04-24-20, 10:04 PM

it's a nice place to be.. just cool being in the moment and seeing where it all goes

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-24-20, 11:37 PM

Is this article I found with Jimmy Hamilton as groom

Your doing?

that’s really cool man

**str** · 04-25-20, 08:25 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Hey , I was just typing in another thread and the name Rudy Rodriguez came up, it sent my mind to trainers I haven’t seen during all this... I’d be upset laying up my horses for $100 a day , not getting a run, and there’s many trainers coming to mind now ...

Speaking of laying up, Untitled’s half brother my buddy owns , he was over today and Kenny McPeek called. He cutting the lay up fee from casse’s $110 - $80 and be 50/50 partners after his tendon heels.

When they bred the horse , worked right with untitled , I’m like a kid in a candy shop , listening to him receive a call from Mr. McPeek, & then call Mr. Casse.

But I got off track, anyway, these barns that aren’t shipping to run, should us handicappers , receive them different than a normal layoff? I would think a healthy horse on layoff , can hurt their progress when coming back...

" I’m like a kid in a candy shop , listening to him receive a call from Mr. McPeek, & then call Mr. Casse. "

A. I have to think it is great to hear exactly what matters and what is discussed. I liken it to when some of the Orioles or Yankees would talk about the game for a minute and I was right there listening. I could have listened to that stuff all day and forgot to saddle my horses. Lol.
Your love and passion for the game clearly shows. It's great to see !

" these barns that aren’t shipping to run, should us handicappers , receive them different than a normal layoff? I would think a healthy horse on layoff , can hurt their progress when coming back..."

A. I have to think they are all playing on a level playing field so I would expect the trainers that are better off the layoff to be a tad bit better for a race or so than the ones that do not put a lot of pressure on them in the AM . And, anyone shipping back from Fla.or Oaklawn that have run during this time off should have a slight edge for that 1st race back.
Hope that makes sense.

**str** · 04-25-20, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Untitled ran shorter went 10.2 1/8

GinaBlu IS daughter of Bluegrass cat

this one will go longer under Kenny MCPeek

Kid, you have to find time to go to Ocala for one of those sales with your friend.

Just follow the trainer around all day and see how it works.

You would love every minute of it. Like Disneyland to a 10 year old.

**str** · 04-25-20, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Yes he did,

were texting now

McPeek , told him to design his silks

this is crazy

but as a little guy, it’s easy to chase to success

trying to advise , take the win

you hit grand slam off the bat,

singles are still ok , lol

My 2 cents is to find a color scheme that you can identify easily from any point in the race.

Our family silks were fushia and white blocks with blue chevrons on sleeves.

Maybe I should post it. I still have a set.

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-25-20, 08:47 AM

Originally posted by str

Kid, you have to find time to go to Ocala for one of those sales with your friend.

Just follow the trainer around all day and see how it works.

You would love every minute of it. Like Disneyland to a 10 year old.

Yeah I’m definitely going to go

**Chi_archie** · 04-25-20, 08:50 AM

what tracks are going to be opening up soon?

is there solid info on that?

**JBEX** · 04-25-20, 09:02 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

what tracks are going to be opening up soon?

is there solid info on that?

I heard tampa, fonner are extending their meets.. gulfstream goes to the end of september.. oaklawn ends after the arkansas derby next week.. don't know about openings

**str** · 04-25-20, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

I heard tampa, fonner are extending their meets.. gulfstream goes to the end of september.. oaklawn ends after the arkansas derby next week.. don't know about openings

Yeah. I think that is it for right now.

Probably get an update from other places in a week or two.

**str** · 04-25-20, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Is this article I found with Jimmy Hamilton as groom

Your doing?

that’s really cool man

Yes Lkid, thats me.

Vinnie saw him walking a horse to the paddock of mine in 95 . He couldn't believe what he saw. Vinnie and I had gotten to know one another pretty well. He asked to do a human interest article about it and I said ok.

I could have found a groom that could work faster and probably better but I would still be looking if I was trying to find a groom with more heart and conviction.
By 1995, things had changed in my life. Things had occured in my family and I had grown up and was a father of three.

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-25-20, 11:59 AM

That’s a really cool story man

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-25-20, 06:56 PM

You gotta see this

https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/1254156327858745344?embed_source=clientlib&player_id=0&rpc_init=1&autoplay=1&language_code=en&use_syndication_guest_id=true

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-25-20, 07:00 PM

Irad was clearly on monster , but he had to stand up to apply the whip , top of stretch to MAINTAIN POSTITION!

Only he does that ,

if not he’s whipping Saez on the 7

sorry I wish I could show replay from beginning but just continue watching the video and it will backtrack

**Louisvillekid1** · 04-25-20, 07:03 PM

Saez was more focused on trapping irad

just a fun race riding event

cant wait to hear your thoughts

if someone can just post the full replay to Judge it, id appreciate it

**JBEX** · 04-25-20, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Saez was more focused on trapping irad

just a fun race riding event

cant wait to hear your thoughts

if someone can just post the full replay to Judge it, id appreciate it

assume you're talking about R9..pero en espanol

https://youtu.be/WBRiQZG7gec

**JBEX** · 04-26-20, 07:42 AM

hey str

I like a horse in the last race at gulfstream..it's a mcl 16k on the turf going 8.5f..jockey is 15% going back to beginning of 2019 but having a horrible gulfstream (lots of 2nds though)..he's getting on a horse for the first time dropping from a msw turf route also at 8.5f..if he runs that race (looks bad on paper)vs this field he's a major contender with the drop..but juarez is 1 for his last 42 with turf mounts..the colony of turf riders as a whole is very weak here after you get by irad and saez..my point is believe this is a well spotted live horse if he gets a good ride..do you think if juarez feels this way knowing his overall awful turf record he'll be more focused and motivated than he might normally be ..like "i'm having a bad meet and not a good turf jock but I'd really like to beat those guys in a bad field with a horse who has a shot on the drop..does this make any sense lol

**str** · 04-26-20, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by Louisvillekid1

Saez was more focused on trapping irad

just a fun race riding event

cant wait to hear your thoughts

if someone can just post the full replay to Judge it, id appreciate it

It really didn't start out that way but Saez saw the 6 horse, who he knew was the best horse in the race as well as Ortiz who was on a winning role 1st day back, feel intimidated when he had him by a neck going into the far turn. ( I have no doubt that Saez has tremendous pride and nobody likes it when the top gun comes back in town and starts taking over again. What that was , was a deep competitiveness from Saez as well as Ortiz.)

Ortiz had to check for a second and Saez realized that the horse was not comfortable there. The horse was more focused on the tightness and not on his rider, Ortiz, and his commands. So Saez tried his best to keep the horse in that tight spot by pinning Ortiz to take away any room for the stick and make the 6 horse run while thinking about the 7 horse and feeling claustrophobic instead of the race, winning, or the commands of Ortiz, his rider.
Ortiz had to stand up and knife the horse up and down but that was not to move up IMO as much as it was to get the horse to focus on running again. You could see the apprehension in the 6 horse but Ortiz got the horse back to focussing on commands instead of the horse outside. Saez realizing this takes a last chance by bumping him just enough right as they turn for home. But Ortiz has his horse back running again. Once the horse gets maybe a nose in front he switches leads late, but he does switch and immediately starts inching by the 7. Once he is about 1 length in front nearing the wire, Ortiz puts the bit in the back of his horses mouth and you can see his ears go up right away.
The horse was by far the best. And, he gained a ton of experience in that race. No doubt Ortiz is special. Not many riders that could have gotten that horses attention at the 5/16's pole like he did.
That was reminiscent of the old Cordaro days. Only the best of the best can ride like that and be safe doing it. You just cannot see that at a lesser venue. I give lots of credit to both jocks.
I have to think both riders talked about that afterwards. Can't think Ortiz was mad and he should not have been. Saez did his job. He did everything he could to win . Very cool race to watch.