Wallco NHL GOLD (+453 units in 6 years)

**Wallco99** · 02-09-12, 11:46 PM

**jalalinator** · 02-10-12, 12:07 AM

Ship the cookies! Wallco <3

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 09:40 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 32-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -5.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-6.00 units)

(2/9/12):
#34 Denver (M/L) (B) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 25-10
(B) 3-7
(C) 2-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/10/12):
#34 Resumes (C) on 2/11/12
#36 New Jersey (+2½) @ Detroit (A) (7:35 pm EST)
#37 Portland @ New Orleans (+7) (A) (8:05 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 09:44 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2011-12 System to date: 133-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +31.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 0

(2/9/12):
#133 St. Louis (M/L) (C) - Win
#137 Philadelphia (M/L) v2 (A) - Win
#138 Ottawa (+1½) v2 (A) - Win
#139 Calgary (+1½) (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 56-43
(B) 31-12
(C) 8-4
Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 28-12
(B) 4-8
(C) 6-2
Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)

Games for (2/10/12):
#120 Chicago (+1½) @ San Jose v2 (A) (10:35 pm EST)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**jalalinator** · 02-10-12, 12:27 PM

But boston is playing toronto and new orleans is playing portland ...

**jalalinator** · 02-10-12, 12:34 PM

Riding with the black hawks I hope they can do this . 3.75 units on +1.5 -230

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 01:18 PM

Originally posted by jalalinator

But boston is playing toronto and new orleans is playing portland ...

Keep the NBA comments in the other thread. Thanks. They are only here for easy viewing, no NBA discussion in here.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by jalalinator

Riding with the black hawks I hope they can do this . 3.75 units on +1.5 -230

Why so much?

**jalalinator** · 02-10-12, 02:06 PM

Well you've hit on almost all bets this week, this a v2 a bet, hoping for magic.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 04:35 PM

Originally posted by jalalinator

Well you've hit on almost all bets this week, this a v2 a bet, hoping for magic.

Start getting greedy...you'll soon be needy!

**J.M. Disciple** · 02-10-12, 06:41 PM

Wallco I never got a post on all the plays from this system. I really want to test and see how the labby does considering the juice at play as well. I know labby kinda sucked when I was doing it with the JM NBA system because I was only doing 1 line. 1 line for A, 1 line for B, and 1 line for C I think would be much better. However, I just think it kinda sucks doing that because some times C bets are far apart and does not give you a chance to clear your line.

If someone has an excel file with Date, play, win/loss, & juice it would be appreciated and i'll test how much this system made via labby strategy.

Thanks
JMD

**Maxi_EV** · 02-10-12, 06:45 PM

For your info guys:

This is the result of 6 seasons of NHL when betting on all away underdogs closing with less than 35% of public trend.

Stats:

Number of plays: 1864
Wins: 691 (37.07%)
Losses: 1173 (62.93%)
Average odds: +180
Units: +121.69

Average # of plays per season: 309
Average units win per season: +20.33

ROI: 6.5%

Worst downswing: -30 units

Seasons details:

2005-2006: -2.88 units
2006-2007: +14.4 units
2007-2008: +51.06 units
2008-2009: +49.2 units
2009-2010: -9.74 units
2010-2011: +18.43 units

Mean: +20.08 units
Standard Deviation: 23.31 units

Bankroll growth by taking the whole ride with 1 unit = 2% : 537%

As you can see, this "method" is not stable yet based on those seasons. The SD still beats the mean. It would need more seasons of testing, but since it is close to stable, and it is quite a no-brainer, I tought that it was interesting to share.

**Wallco99** · 02-10-12, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

For your info guys:

This is the result of 6 seasons of NHL when betting on all away underdogs closing with less than 35% of public trend.

Stats:

Number of plays: 1864
Wins: 691 (37.07%)
Losses: 1173 (62.93%)
Average odds: +180
Units: +121.69

Average # of plays per season: 309
Average units win per season: +20.33

ROI: 6.5%

Worst downswing: -30 units

Seasons details:

2005-2006: -2.88 units
2006-2007: +14.4 units
2007-2008: +51.06 units
2008-2009: +49.2 units
2009-2010: -9.74 units
2010-2011: +18.43 units

Mean: +20.08 units
Standard Deviation: 23.31 units

Bankroll growth by taking the whole ride with 1 unit = 2% : 537%

As you can see, this "method" is not stable yet based on those seasons. The SD still beats the mean. It would need more seasons of testing, but since it is close to stable, and it is quite a no-brainer, I tought that it was interesting to share.

I don't know what all that is, but it looks pretty intense. Seems like a lot of data for 20 units.

**Maxi_EV** · 02-11-12, 12:36 AM

???
it could have been played at 2% or 2.5% of roll...

and YOU called the other guy GREEDY?

If you want to know what it is, just read it.

**dominate.** · 02-11-12, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

For your info guys:

This is the result of 6 seasons of NHL when betting on all away underdogs closing with less than 35% of public trend.

Stats:

Number of plays: 1864
Wins: 691 (37.07%)
Losses: 1173 (62.93%)
Average odds: +180
Units: +121.69

Average # of plays per season: 309
Average units win per season: +20.33

ROI: 6.5%

Worst downswing: -30 units

Seasons details:

2005-2006: -2.88 units
2006-2007: +14.4 units
2007-2008: +51.06 units
2008-2009: +49.2 units
2009-2010: -9.74 units
2010-2011: +18.43 units

Mean: +20.08 units
Standard Deviation: 23.31 units

Bankroll growth by taking the whole ride with 1 unit = 2% : 537%

As you can see, this "method" is not stable yet based on those seasons. The SD still beats the mean. It would need more seasons of testing, but since it is close to stable, and it is quite a no-brainer, I tought that it was interesting to share.

How are you getting the 6.5% ROI? It looks like it would be a lot more than that if you were to play with 1 unit being 2% of your BR.

**Wallco99** · 02-11-12, 02:18 AM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

???
it could have been played at 2% or 2.5% of roll...

and YOU called the other guy GREEDY?

If you want to know what it is, just read it.

Not greedy, just seems like an awful lot of data for 20 units, in case you read it wrong the first time.

**Maxi_EV** · 02-11-12, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by dominate.

How are you getting the 6.5% ROI? It looks like it would be a lot more than that if you were to play with 1 unit being 2% of your BR.

ROI : for every 1$ WAGERED you will have a return of 1.065$, making 0.065$ profit.
You WAGER more than your bankroll if you add ALL the bets. At 2% of BR, and 300 plays a year, you INVEST 6 times your BR.

So Return On Investment is 6.5%.
Average bankroll growth is 40% per year at 1unit = 2%.

**Maxi_EV** · 02-11-12, 07:31 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Not greedy, just seems like an awful lot of data for 20 units, in case you read it wrong the first time.

So having 10K at the beginning of an NHL season and ending up at 14K, then starting over again the next season and ending up at 19.6K, then 27.4K, 38.4K, 53.7K, 75.3K, etc...

...this is not good for you? 40%-50% bankroll growth per season?

Yes, I think you're greedy.

**Wallco99** · 02-11-12, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by Maxi_EV

So having 10K at the beginning of an NHL season and ending up at 14K, then starting over again the next season and ending up at 19.6K, then 27.4K, 38.4K, 53.7K, 75.3K, etc...

...this is not good for you? 40%-50% bankroll growth per season?

Yes, I think you're greedy.

How is 2011-12 season doing with this method? Have you done the current season yet? Are you playing it?

**Maxi_EV** · 02-11-12, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by Wallco99

How is 2011-12 season doing with this method? Have you done the current season yet? Are you playing it?

2011-2012 not backtested yet. I went backwards from 2010-2011.

I'm not playing it because I just finished backtesting and it kind of buggs me that the mean (average) doesn't beat the standard deviation. Also, I have already enough systems going on.

I'm just sharing infos that can possibly bring us somewhere. It's just a basis for further study.

I will include 2011-2012 and let you know.

**Wallco99** · 02-11-12, 11:24 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 32-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -5.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-8.20 units)

(2/10/12):
#36 New Jersey (+3) (A) - Loss
#37 New Orleans (+7) (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 25-12
(B) 3-7
(C) 2-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/11/12):
#34 Denver (+3) @ Indiana (C) (7:05 pm EST)
#36 San Antonio @ New Jersey (+9½) (B) (8:05 pm EST)
#37 Resumes (B) on 2/13/12

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**Wallco99** · 02-11-12, 11:27 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2011-12 System to date: 133-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +31.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 1 (-2.40 units)

(2/10/12):
#140 Chicago (+1½) v2 (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 56-43
(B) 31-12
(C) 8-4
Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 28-13
(B) 4-8
(C) 6-2
Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)

Games for (2/11/12):
#140 Chicago (+1½) @ Phoenix v2 (B) (8:35 pm EST)
#141 Montreal @ Toronto (M/L) (A) (7:05 pm EST)
#142 Vancouver @ Calgary (+1½) (A) (10:05 pm EST)
#143 Tampa Bay (+1½) @ Buffalo (A) (7:05 pm EST)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**Wallco99** · 02-11-12, 11:30 AM

Please note: in yesterday's update, Chicago Blackhawks were listed as play #120, that was a mistake, they are actually play #140. It has been corrected in today's update.

**Wallco99** · 02-11-12, 11:58 AM

Thanks Maxi.

**Maxi_EV** · 02-11-12, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Wallco99

Thanks Maxi.

Thanks to you for all your work.

**jalalinator** · 02-11-12, 02:53 PM

lost on no and black hawks, its ok though. Coming back hard today!

**exshot** · 02-11-12, 10:28 PM

BOL

**Wallco99** · 02-12-12, 02:36 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 33-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -4.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-4.51 units)

(2/11/12):
#34 Denver (+3) (C) - Win
#36 New Jersey (+9½) (B) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 25-12
(B) 3-8
(C) 3-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

There are no system plays for (2/12/12):
#36 Resumes (C) on 2/15/12
#37 Resumes (B) on 2/13/12

**Wallco99** · 02-12-12, 02:52 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2011-12 System to date: 135-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +33.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-13.71 units)

(2/11/12):
#140 Chicago (+1½) v2 (B) - Loss
#141 Toronto (M/L) (A) - Loss
#142 Calgary (+1½) (A) - Win
#143 Tampa Bay (+1½) (A) - Win

v1 Plays
(A) 58-44
(B) 31-12
(C) 8-4
Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 28-13
(B) 4-9
(C) 6-2
Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)

Games for (2/12/12):
#140 Resumes v2 (C) on 2/14/12
#141 Resumes (B) on 2/13/12
#144 San Jose (M/L) @ St. Louis (A) (7:05 pm EST)

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.

**J.M. Disciple** · 02-12-12, 07:05 AM

scary C bet on blackhawks coming up. They lost their last game vs nashville on jan 24th. They have lost their last 8 games in a row and are on a terrible streak.

Good Luck

EVERYONE

**alexknyc** · 02-12-12, 08:51 PM

Scoresandodds.com has the San Jose game as -110 on both sides so it became a ML bet, yes?

**Maxi_EV** · 02-12-12, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by alexknyc

Scoresandodds.com has the San Jose game as -110 on both sides so it became a ML bet, yes?

Yes

**Wallco99** · 02-12-12, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by alexknyc

Scoresandodds.com has the San Jose game as -110 on both sides so it became a ML bet, yes?

That is correct. I updated the standings sheet @ 5:11 for the M/L play.

**Wallco99** · 02-13-12, 06:19 AM

Wallco NBA Chase 110
2011-12 System to date: 33-2 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: -4.29 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 2 (-4.51 units)

v1 Plays
(A) 25-12
(B) 3-8
(C) 3-4
(D) 2-2

V2 Plays
In production

Games for (2/13/12):
#36 Resumes (C) on 2/15/12
#37 Utah @ New Orleans (+3½) (B) (8:05 pm EST)

We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

**Wallco99** · 02-13-12, 06:21 AM

Wallco NHL GOLD
2011-12 System to date: 135-6 (fin. series)
System profit/loss: +33.92 units (fin. series)
Current open series: 3 (-14.81 units)

(2/12/12):
#144 San Jose (+1½) (A) - Loss

v1 Plays
(A) 58-45
(B) 31-12
(C) 8-4
Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u)

v2 Plays
(A) 28-13
(B) 4-9
(C) 6-2
Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)

Games for (2/13/12):
#140 Resumes v2 (C) on 2/14/12
#141Carolina (+1½) @ Montreal (B) (7:35 pm EST)
#144 Resumes (B) on 2/14/12

Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.