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dugdoggSBR MVP
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ViperpiperSBR Wise Guy
- 11-12-10
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#632cashed huge on the under tonight with 11 games...
thank you 1-0 games
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blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-08
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#633
so far days with a total of 8 or more games, the under woulda lost on:
11/15 with 9 games (50 goals scored) 49.5 as the total
11/12 as mentioned above
11/10 with 8 games (51 goals scored) 44.5 as the total
11/8 with 9 games (53 goals scored) 49.5 as the total
11/5 with 11 games (70 goals scored) 58 as the total
the only day this month that had 8 or more games that won was 11/3 which had 10 games with 47 goals
so im not sold yet on taking the under on every day that has 8 or more games
and i wouldn't say missing it by 4 goals was a "never had a chance" thing to say considering the first couples games started out shittyComment -
blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-08
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#634and in october you woulda had a record of 5-4 taking the under in days that had 8 or more games. and a monthly total of 14-12 taking under in EVERY game
and a 5-12 recored taking only under in every game so far this month.Comment -
the chefSBR Rookie
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#635Viper anyway I can get in touch with you now when the other forum is gone?
TCComment -
dima2240SBR Sharp
- 12-15-10
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#638viper any play for today and when do you usually post your picks?thanks.Comment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
- 11-10-10
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#639i made almost 2k taking the UNDER on those games last year alone and am up this year as well...
you have to compare to the actual grand salami number, not just assumming it's 5.5 x number of total games...for years the salami has been inflated and averages over 5.5 per game...so the salami under is hitting way more often than you think.
i've been doing this religiously guys...take it for what it is...i'm gonna keep pounding the under until the books finally start releasing lower salami linesComment -
blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
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#640"Comment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
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dima2240SBR Sharp
- 12-15-10
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#643so no picks for tonight?Comment -
blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-08
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#644well i know for a fact your wrong because i keep a log 11/3 u55 was a WIN 11/5 u60 was a LOSS 11/8 u49.5 was a LOSS 11/10 u45 was a LOSS 11/12 u62 was a WIN 11/15 u49.5 was a LOSS 11/17 u61.5 was a WIN get the facts straight guys...we hit a 2 week rut where there were several high scoring games...otherwise...keep hittin the under guys...you jumped in at a bad time...but the salami's shouldn't even be 5.5 ave because a lot of nights the totals for individual games is 5 even...Comment -
JakeRyanSBR Hustler
- 03-15-09
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#645Viper PM you email addy. I can PM u cause I have less than 20 posts.Comment -
ViperpiperSBR Wise Guy
- 11-12-10
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#646Originally posted by statsmachineI'm new to gambling, and my post assumed that the salami is ALWAYS set at 5.5 * number of games. If that is incorrect, then I need to adjust based on what the salami is actually set at.
Let me know how you guys want to see the data. If you would like, I can export every game and its score on all nights where there are more than 8 teams playing - that way you can verify my numbers above.
-mikeComment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
- 11-10-10
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#647my facts are correct bud.....based on my book which is 5dimes. congrats on playing at a book that has a higher number. keep pounding it if its working. but again, 5dimes is averaging 5.5 goals per game (like tonight with 3 games and 16.5 goals) so my numbers are correct for this month and probably the season so far.
take a look here
that guy confirms with me this month the salami is 3-4 this month not 2-5....you're ASSUMING the salami is 5.5 times total num of games...it's not bro...each night it varies...and the books pretty much have the same salami number everywhere on the planet. it's a rare bet and doesn't move much...
im using the ACTUAL salami number that i record every day. i have 5dimes, betUS, and 2 locals...it's the same dude.Comment -
blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-08
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dugdoggSBR MVP
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#649i can give you screenshots of my bets, that's how you know the number. i know what the salami is every day. sometimes its exactly 5.5 sometimes its not. it varies based on the matchups. it's not a computer based number that's spit out....the linesmakers set it around the sum of the totals of all games....
why are you telling me my record when you're assuming and averaging? i'm telling you what my record is cuz i bet it each time. you don't...what is your deal?
by the SAME i mean, local and online books...it's the same number each night between the books on a given day. you dont get linemovement really with the salami cuz like i said its a rare bet and there's not much action that piles on to one sideComment -
blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-08
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#650i can give you screenshots of my bets, that's how you know the number. i know what the salami is every day. sometimes its exactly 5.5 sometimes its not. it varies based on the matchups. it's not a computer based number that's spit out....the linesmakers set it around the sum of the totals of all games.... you're asking if i can read?? you say according to that link 11/12 was a loser?? i think you must be red-green color blind. take a look again pal. why are you telling me my record when you're assuming and averaging? i'm telling you what my record is cuz i bet it each time. you don't...what is your deal? by the SAME i mean, local and online books...it's the same number each night between the books on a given day. you dont get linemovement really with the salami cuz like i said its a rare bet and there's not much action that piles on to one side
11/5 skyscraper has a total of 59.5 whereas VI has a number of 58.
11/12 skyscraper has a total of 61.5 and VI has 60
and my deal is when you come in here and spout off saying the the under is AUTOMATIC for days that have more then 8 games. im just showing you numbers here recently that show otherwiseComment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
- 11-10-10
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#651again, when i brought this subject up it was 7-3-1 just this year after being around 67% last year. had a bad week of 3 straight losses when there were 9,10 or 11 goals scored in some games. that won't keep up
you are working with too small of a sample size of data. i've been doing this for over a year. it's hitting an astronomically high hit rate. it's an automatic under. my numbers match that guys...i have no clue where VI is pulling them from but they certainly are way off from all the local and online books i check daily.
just take the under with us and make money. that's what we're here for.Comment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
- 11-10-10
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#652Originally posted by statsmachineThe big question for me is, why would it matter how many games there are in a given night?
Over the last 4+ years, average home score = 2.9662 and average away score = 2.6898.
Total average game score = 5.656
As you have more games in a given night, wouldn't it trend closer to the average of "greater than 5.5"?
The only possible explanation is that when 8 games are played in a given night, that's when bookies up it by one goal from 5.5*8 = 44 to 5.656*8=45.248.
So is this the circumstance when they add that extra goal? And if so, I would agree that "under" makes sense, by 0.248.
if there's only a few games on the board...then even a 7 goal game and ruin the UNDER...Comment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
- 11-10-10
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#653what i'd like to see is a frequency graph of goals per game. i believe the huge majority of the cluster would be games that go under 5.5 goals...with a small amount of outliers around 8,9,10 goals per game..
so my thinking is that since it's so much more frequent to have lower and in particular EXTREMELY lower scoring games like 1-0 and 2-1...that the more games on the schedule would give a greater probability to make up for an extreme game that goes way over 5.5 goals on any given day.
last year it certainly proved right because i got burned a lot taking salami unders on days with fewer than 8 games. i came up with 8 arbitrarily so maybe changing that gives an even better chance to the salami. i dont know
last year it was golden and it looks really good so far this year other than the 3 straight losses last week when there was an abundance of scoring. this week its looking more back to usual. we'll see what happens tonight!Comment -
blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-06-08
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#655not arguing here, just wanted to bring up that the total goals at 5dimes today is 66.5 which is again pretty damn close to an average of 5.5 goals. even though there are 2 games with a total of 5 it still comes out very close to 5.5/game.Comment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
- 11-10-10
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#656
i'm gonna stick with my under. hey it may lose as a lot of the public is on the over...but the salami under has won 2 of the last 3 and the only loss was by a half goal. so i think the bad streak a couple weeks ago may be in the past.Comment -
blackbeSStSBR Hall of Famer
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#657piper you not posting plays on here anymore?Comment -
LetsGoBruinsSBR High Roller
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RingoStarSBR Hustler
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#659Salami today?Comment -
ViperpiperSBR Wise Guy
- 11-12-10
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#661
ill be posting plays
If you want input on a particular lean you have pm me.Comment -
ViperpiperSBR Wise Guy
- 11-12-10
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#662Wednesday November 22nd, 2011
Pittsburgh Penguins Regulation -115 5 Units
Philly Flyers Regulation +105 2 UnitsComment -
dugdoggSBR MVP
- 11-10-10
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#663salami under has been doin well again on big boards...took it big today againComment
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