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  • Chance Harper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-20-07
    • 788

    #1
    Are Wings, Penguins destined to meet again?
    Are Wings, Penguins destined to meet again?

    The puck drops on the NHL's second season this Wednesday night at 7 p.m. with Sidney Crosby and the Penguins host the Ottawa Senators at Pittsburgh's Mellon Arena. This year's playoffs promise to be as wide open as many in recent memory, and even though the Washington Capitals are heavy favorites, they aren't necessarily the team to beat. Just what are the odds the Pens and Red Wings meet a third straight year?

    The Stanley Cup playoffs are set to begin on Wednesday night, and for bettors that means one thing: Get ready for some upsets.



    Unlike in the NBA where one of the top two or three teams in the standings is essentially guaranteed the championship, the NHL postseason is wide open. The proof is in the pudding.

    Since the league started awarding the Presidents’ Trophy to the club with the most points in the regular season in 1985, the winner of the award has hoisted the Stanley Cup only seven times. In the last six years, the best team during the year has gone on to lift the Cup only once. Twice during that span, the No. 1 overall seed was stunned in the first round by the No. 8 seed in their respective conference.

    Rushing out to bet the first place Washington Capitals as +300 favorites to win the Cup? You probably shouldn’t, even if Alex Ovechkin and the Capitals are certainly in the conversation. There’s better value elsewhere and history tells us the top team in the standings is unlikely to be left standing in June.

    Washington opens against the Montreal Canadiens, and it should have no trouble with the Eastern Conference’s eighth seed. The Canadiens backed into the playoffs by losing eight of their last 11 games against the moneyline.

    The Pittsburgh Penguins (+450 to win the Stanley Cup) begin defense of their title as the fourth seed in the East, and they’ll take on the Ottawa Senators in the first round.

    The Senators are without Alex Kovalev (knee) for the duration of the postseason, and that’ll hurt their chances in a bigger way than you’d think. With Kovalev gone, Pittsburgh is able to key on Ottawa’s top line almost exclusively.

    First in the league in goals against per game (2.3), the New Jersey Devils (+750) are in tough in their East first-round series against the Philadelphia Flyers.

    The Flyers took five of six against the Devils this season, including all three games at the Wachovia Center. Philadelphia’s success against New Jersey makes it worth a look despite it starting third-stringer Brian Boucher between the pipes.

    The Boston Bruins figure to have a shot at a first-round upset against the Buffalo Sabres (+1600), who sport the likely Vezina Trophy winner in Ryan Miller. Boston took four of six against the moneyline from Buffalo this season, and won five of seven rolling into the playoffs.

    That said, the Bruins are dead last in goals per game (2.4), and are without first-line center Marc Savard (concussion).

    Over in the Western Conference, the top-seeded San Jose Sharks (+450) look to prove their worth to sharp bettors against the Colorado Avalanche.

    The Sharks finished with the best record in the West, but they also did so last season before falling to the Anaheim Ducks in the first round. The good news is San Jose has won eight of its last 10, while the Avalanche have dropped 10 of 13.
    San Jose earned the top spot when the Chicago Blackhawks (+400) fell 3-2 in overtime as -170 home chalk to the fifth seed Detroit Red Wings (+800) on Sunday afternoon. The Blackhawks match up in the opening round against the Nashville Predators, who have played ‘under’ in nine of their last 12 games (8-4 SU).

    If Antti Niemi holds up in nets, Chicago should be able to exploit Nashville’s special teams. The Predators rank 24th on the power play (16.4%) and 28th on the penalty kill (77.1%).

    The Vancouver Canucks (+750) have home-ice advantage as the third seed in the West against the Los Angeles Kings, but the six seed isn’t much of an underdog. The Kings finished only two points behind the Canucks in the standings.

    Vancouver is in a dogfight against Los Angeles, but it could be worse. Enter the Phoenix Coyotes (+750), who drew the streaking Detroit Red Wings in the opening round.

    The Red Wings dealt with injuries for the bulk of the first half, but they’ve been lights out since the Olympic break. With Jimmy Howard replacing Chris Osgood as the No. 1 goaltender in Hockeytown, Detroit is 16-5 against the moneyline in its last 21 games.
  • G's pks
    Restricted User
    • 01-01-09
    • 22251

    #2
    NO...do not see detroit making it to cup. Also not sure if pit makes it either!
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63167

      #3
      I hope so.

      Pens haven't been looking so great though
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      • avssakic
        SBR MVP
        • 12-12-07
        • 1795

        #4
        Phx to beat the wings
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        • ClipCan
          SBR High Roller
          • 02-23-10
          • 133

          #5
          Originally posted by avssakic
          Phx to beat the wings
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          • avssakic
            SBR MVP
            • 12-12-07
            • 1795

            #6
            Ha. Gotta root for my home team. Never know they could pull it off
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            • xxx
              SBR MVP
              • 11-28-05
              • 3884

              #7


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              • bruceBRUCEbruce
                SBR MVP
                • 06-20-09
                • 2560

                #8
                Phoenix is Bettman's pet team this season. Sorry Pittsburgh!
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                • TJ EasyStreet
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-17-10
                  • 170

                  #9
                  If the Devils can survive the Flyers - and Pronger elbowing everyone in the face, breast, chest, neck, and head - I think it will be Devils and Wings.
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                  • tblues2005
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-30-06
                    • 9235

                    #10
                    I can see the Caps this year making it. I don't think the Wings have a chance with no offense at all. I am picking Chicago in the west because they came that close last season to beating the Wings and the Wings lost too much offense last year to beat Chicago. My pick is Chicago and Washington in the finals.
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                    • yisman
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-01-08
                      • 75682

                      #11
                      No.

                      Chances are better that neither team makes it to the Finals.

                      I personally think Detroit will fall short. They needed a big push to make the 5th seed, and it's a very old team. I don't see them winning the West.
                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                      [/quote]

                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                      • dwaechte
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-27-07
                        • 5481

                        #12
                        The NHL league office would probably love another Pens/Wings tilt. Doubt Detroit makes it though, way too much competition out West. Pens/Caps series should be a thriller once again assuming they both make it, and I'd guess whoever wins that one will represent the East.
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                        • TJ EasyStreet
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 03-17-10
                          • 170

                          #13
                          Now, one thing I would like to see is Chicago make it and lose just to witness Marian Hossa losing in the finals for the third straight time in three consecutive years with three different teams ... something I would have to believe is a record across all sports.
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                          • Capn Morgan
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 03-16-10
                            • 160

                            #14
                            i really dont see either of those teams making the finals this year
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                            • ClipCan
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-23-10
                              • 133

                              #15
                              I see Detroit/Chicago Washington/Buffalo

                              This time of year nothing matter as much as net minding. Chicago will score more than most. Simple.


                              Chicago will have a tough time getting past Nashville, probably go to 6. Detroit's saving grace will be Howard. Detroit has taken 2 of 3 in Chicago and likewise for Chicago in Detroit ( 1 was a SO W) Niemi is going to eventually bury Chicago, their goalies are all soft. Detroit's test will be Phoenix, if they can do well against them, in my eyes there is no stopping them.

                              Pitt will skate by Ottawa, their test will either be NJ or Wash, both teams will give them a run for their money.

                              Finals

                              Detroit/Washington

                              Washington in 6.
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                              • doubleleg
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 03-27-10
                                • 190

                                #16
                                I see Detroit in the finals but not Pittsburg
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                                • BigdaddyQH
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 07-13-09
                                  • 19530

                                  #17
                                  I do not see Detroit getting past Phoenix, or Pitt getting past Washington, if they meet in round 2.
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                                  • Mike Huntertz
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 08-19-09
                                    • 11207

                                    #18
                                    Pens can't beat top ranked teams.
                                    2-17 versus top 10 ranked teams.
                                    The hopeless Laffs were 6-11
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                                    • poker_dummy101
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 11-03-08
                                      • 6395

                                      #19
                                      i hope so but am afraid of the caps
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                                      • LT Profits
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 10-27-06
                                        • 90963

                                        #20
                                        I think Wings lose in first round vs. Phoenix. Penguins haven't beaten Devils all year, and they won't suddenly win four games should those teams hook up down the road.

                                        Blackhawks vs. Devils for me.
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                                        • statnerds
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-23-09
                                          • 4047

                                          #21
                                          no on both

                                          neither will washington

                                          neither will devils

                                          load up on the Sabres to win Cup at +1950 at 5Dimes

                                          they don't have con odds yet
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                                          • philswin
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-18-07
                                            • 1279

                                            #22
                                            Caps over Sharks
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