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  • perryhs
    SBR Hustler
    • 01-07-15
    • 68

    #491
    streak<=-2 and p:shots on goal>40 and A
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    • nash13
      SBR MVP
      • 01-21-14
      • 1122

      #492
      Originally posted by perryhs
      D and streak>3 and p:shots on goal < op:shots on goal

      or

      D and streak>3 and p:shots on goal < po:shots on goal
      sorry my mistake misread the query
      Last edited by nash13; 01-08-15, 07:39 AM.
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      • zxqwpdbg
        SBR Hustler
        • 10-25-14
        • 68

        #493
        Originally posted by perryhs
        streak<=-2 and p:shots on goal>40 and A
        looks like some new blood in here. welcome. i really like this one you made.
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        • emceeaye
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-20-13
          • 704

          #494
          Blues/Sharks under

          My best bet for today:

          H and po:goals <= 2 and ppo:goals <= 2 and op:W and opvertime = 1 and total<6 and rest<3 and o:rest<3 and 2009<=season

          po:goals<=2 and H and ppo:goals<=2 and opvertime=1
          and op:W and season>=2009
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          • perryhs
            SBR Hustler
            • 01-07-15
            • 68

            #495
            power play goals>=2 and 1<=p:margin<=3 and HF and (op:O or op:L)
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            • perryhs
              SBR Hustler
              • 01-07-15
              • 68

              #496
              poower play goals>=2 and p:L and HF and op:L
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              • perryhs
                SBR Hustler
                • 01-07-15
                • 68

                #497
                p:margin<=-4 and HF and op:L

                or

                p:assists+5 < po:assists and HF and op:L


                also loss big in previous game
                Last edited by perryhs; 01-08-15, 09:23 PM.
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                • perryhs
                  SBR Hustler
                  • 01-07-15
                  • 68

                  #498
                  p:margin>=4 and p:total=5

                  or

                  p:margin>=4 and p:total=5 and F
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                  • perryhs
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 01-07-15
                    • 68

                    #499
                    poower play goals=0 and p:short handed goals>=1 and pU
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                    • perryhs
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 01-07-15
                      • 68

                      #500
                      p:shots on goal +15 < pp:shots on goal and p:H and H
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                      • perryhs
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 01-07-15
                        • 68

                        #501
                        rest=0 and o:rest>=3 and A and (p:U or op:U)
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                        • JMon
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-11-09
                          • 9800

                          #502
                          Possible PL on Lightening

                          SDQL

                          line>=200 and tS(L, N=8) >= 6 and 7 - (rest + p:rest + pp:rest) = 4 and 2010 <= season

                          line>=200 and tS(L, N=8)>=6 and 7-(rest+p:rest+pp:rest) = 4 and 2010<=season and team=Sabres

                          Margin of Victory should noted.
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                          • JMon
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-11-09
                            • 9800

                            #503
                            A and 150>=line>105 and tS(W, N=5)=4 and day in [Wednesday, Friday, Saturday] and o:rest<3
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                            • emceeaye
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-20-13
                              • 704

                              #504
                              Originally posted by JMon
                              SDQL

                              line>=200 and tS(L, N=8) >= 6 and 7 - (rest + p:rest + pp:rest) = 4 and 2010 <= season

                              line>=200 and tS(L, N=8)>=6 and 7-(rest+p:rest+pp:rest) = 4 and 2010<=season and team=Sabres

                              Margin of Victory should noted.
                              nice JMon, I like this one a lot. Add that its away and WP of opponent and margin increases:

                              line>=200 and tS(L, N=8) >= 6 and 7 - (rest + p:rest + pp:rest) = 4 and 2010 <= season and A and o:WP>55
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                              • JMon
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 12-11-09
                                • 9800

                                #505
                                Originally posted by emceeaye
                                nice JMon, I like this one a lot. Add that its away and WP of opponent and margin increases:

                                line>=200 and tS(L, N=8) >= 6 and 7 - (rest + p:rest + pp:rest) = 4 and 2010 <= season and A and o:WP>55
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                                • emceeaye
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-20-13
                                  • 704

                                  #506
                                  Originally posted by JMon
                                  A and 150>=line>105 and tS(W, N=5)=4 and day in [Wednesday, Friday, Saturday] and o:rest<3
                                  On that one as well. More support:


                                  H and p:goals <= 2 and pp:goals <= 2 and ppp:goals <= 2 and op:goals >= 4 and opp:goals >= 4 and 2010 <= season and 0 < rest< 3


                                  season>2009 and 0>power play goals - opower play goals>-3 and day!=Tuesday and -4-6 and month!=2 and month!=5 and month!=6 and (A or day!=Sunday) and (215>line>-212 or line>249) and penalties<10 and openalties>1 and p:shots on goal - op:shots on goal<18 and op:shots on goal<43 and p:assists!=5 and 14>op:assists>1 and p:shifts>326 and 83>op:shifts -p:shifts>-75 and po:goals>0 and rest + o:rest<7


                                  season>2009 and 0>power play goals - opower play goals>-3 and day!=Tuesday and -4-6 and month!=2 and month!=5 and month!=6 and (A or day!=Sunday) and (215>line>-212 or line>249) and penalties<10 and openalties>1 and p:shots on goal - op:shots on goal<18
                                  Last edited by emceeaye; 01-09-15, 01:27 PM.
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                                  • emceeaye
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-20-13
                                    • 704

                                    #507
                                    Flames ml (or pl) possible play

                                    A and p:shots on goal < po:shots on goal and p:ADW and rest = 0 and day=Friday

                                    A and p:shots on goal < po:shots on goal and p:ADW and rest = 0 and day=Friday and P:L and P:season=season

                                    AD and p:shots on goal < po:shots on goal and p:ADW and rest = 0 and P:margin<-1 and P:season=season
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                                    • Cutler'sThumb
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 12-06-11
                                      • 287

                                      #508
                                      The other side of that Lightning/Sabers game:

                                      playoffs=0 and game number>40 and WP>60 and line<-170

                                      Also, the large trend emceeaye posted above supports the Sabers. Obviously hard to think of Buffalo winning this game, but who know.


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                                      • emceeaye
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 08-20-13
                                        • 704

                                        #509
                                        nice one from Ross Benjamin today...

                                        HF and p:W and p:margin>=3 and tA(period scores[2])-tA(oeriod scores[2])<=-.2

                                        I like this one described by Ross Benjamin for today, but don't like his reasoning about picking the puck line. He uses the average margin of victory only among those that win to justify it (>2.1), but looking at the average of all games indicated by the query, it's less than 2, but above 1.5.

                                        look at past 3 seasons and add the other relevant filters...looks good.

                                        I'm going with ml.
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                                        • JMon
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-11-09
                                          • 9800

                                          #510
                                          Originally posted by emceeaye
                                          HF and p:W and p:margin>=3 and tA(period scores[2])-tA(oeriod scores[2])<=-.2

                                          I like this one described by Ross Benjamin for today, but don't like his reasoning about picking the puck line. He uses the average margin of victory only among those that win to justify it (>2.1), but looking at the average of all games indicated by the query, it's less than 2, but above 1.5.

                                          look at past 3 seasons and add the other relevant filters...looks good.

                                          I'm going with ml.
                                          That is a solid one for sure...I did see p:margin=4 is not good.

                                          What does this translate too? outscored in the second period by .2 or more??

                                          tA(period scores[2])-tA(oeriod scores[2])<=-.2
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                                          • JMon
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-11-09
                                            • 9800

                                            #511
                                            Originally posted by JMon
                                            I believe goal differential is simply goals scored minus goals allowed. A team is averaging a +.3 or better goal differential on the season

                                            oA(goals-po:goals)>=.3 and opo:goals>=3 and oppo:goals>=3 and opppo:goals>=3 and H and -170<=line<=-120 and game number>40 and 2009<=season
                                            Emc...do you remember this one from way back....lol. It's finally active today...

                                            If you eliminate high favs..

                                            oA(goals-po:goals)>=.3 and opo:goals>=3 and oppo:goals>=3 and opppo:goals>=3 and H and -135 < line<-110 and game number>40 and 2009<=season
                                            Last edited by JMon; 01-10-15, 02:19 PM.
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                                            • zxqwpdbg
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 10-25-14
                                              • 68

                                              #512
                                              Originally posted by JMon
                                              That is a solid one for sure...I did see p:margin=4 is not good.

                                              What does this translate too? outscored in the second period by .2 or more??

                                              tA(period scores[2])-tA(oeriod scores[2])<=-.2
                                              period scores are [0],[1],[2] for periods 1,2,3. so [2] is referring to period 3, if i am not mistaken.
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                                              • emceeaye
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 08-20-13
                                                • 704

                                                #513
                                                Originally posted by JMon
                                                That is a solid one for sure...I did see p:margin=4 is not good.

                                                What does this translate too? outscored in the second period by .2 or more??

                                                tA(period scores[2])-tA(oeriod scores[2])<=-.2
                                                JMon, yeah, it's the strangest thing that something about a margin of victory of 4 in the previous game lowers the chances of winning in this situation so substantially, while a margin of 3 and 5 and 6 show increasing chances of winning as margin increases...could it be by chance due to low enough N? Perhaps something about how a previous margin of 4 systematically is interacting negatively with something else that we can't or are not considering....

                                                Fortunately for us if we go with this query, the margin=3, and results look great with it.

                                                Yeah, period scores [2] is third period.
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                                                • emceeaye
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 08-20-13
                                                  • 704

                                                  #514
                                                  Originally posted by JMon
                                                  Emc...do you remember this one from way back....lol. It's finally active today...

                                                  If you eliminate high favs..

                                                  oA(goals-po:goals)>=.3 and opo:goals>=3 and oppo:goals>=3 and opppo:goals>=3 and H and -135 < line<-110 and game number>40 and 2009<=season
                                                  OK yeah I remember this one... Looks great as well, and I did see some queries that are consistent with it, and was going to make this a play until I saw a contradicting query...However, this situation appears to be so unique and consistent in outcome, that even despite the low N and conflicting query, I'm inclined to go with it...after all, Nash's summary suggests that even if there is 1 contradiction and 3 in support, that it's still good for a play.

                                                  Away from home, and don't have access to the supportive and conflicting queries at the moment... But if Cutler or someone else has them handy, then that would be great.

                                                  update:
                                                  Here's another in support:

                                                  HF and oA(o:goals)<=2.52 and opo:goals>=3 and oppo:goals>=3 and opppo:goals>=3 and season>=2006 and o:rest>=1

                                                  and

                                                  HF and oA(o:goals)<=2.52 and opo:goals>=3 and oppo:goals>=3 and opppo:goals>=3 and season>=2006 and o:rest>=1 and P:W and P:season=season


                                                  Also found one that had a large N (one of Bases' I think) and high ROI and large ranges for the parameters in favor of Pittsburgh:

                                                  F and season>=2010 and streak=-1 and o:streak<0 and day!=Monday and (H or rest<2) and (H or o:rest<2) and site streak>-3 and o:site streak!=2 and p:margin>-5 and P:margin>-4 and op:goals<4 and rest + o:rest>0 and game number<75

                                                  ...but when you tweak one or more of the parameters to match today's situation, you get:

                                                  HF and P:AW and P:season=season and p:short handed goals=0 and power play goals=0 and season>=2010 and streak=-1 and o:streak<0 and day!=Monday and (H or rest<2) and (H or o:rest<2) and site streak>-3 and o:site streak!=2 and p:margin>-3 and P:margin>2 and op:goals<4 and rest + o:rest>0 and game number<75

                                                  and

                                                  HF and p:short handed goals=0 and power play goals=0 and season>=2010 and streak=-1 and o:streak<0 and day!=Monday and (H or rest<2) and (H or o:rest<2) and site streak>0 and o:site streak!=2 and 0>p:margin>-3 and P:margin>2 and op:goals<4 and rest + o:rest>0 and game number<75
                                                  Last edited by emceeaye; 01-10-15, 05:11 PM.
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                                                  • Cutler'sThumb
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 12-06-11
                                                    • 287

                                                    #515
                                                    Wild +210

                                                    Several good trends support the big dog play tonight:

                                                    HF and streak=-1 and o:streak<0 and day!=Monday and (H or rest<2) and (H or o:rest<2) and site streak>-3 and o:site streak!=2 and p:margin>-5 and op:goals<4 and rest + o:rest>0 and game number<75

                                                    p:L and pp:L and (p:shots on goal)>(po:shots on goal) and (pp:shots on goal)>(ppo:shots on goal) and A

                                                    playoffs=0 and game number>40 and WP>60 and line<-170
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                                                    • emceeaye
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 08-20-13
                                                      • 704

                                                      #516
                                                      Originally posted by Cutler'sThumb
                                                      Several good trends support the big dog play tonight:

                                                      HF and streak=-1 and o:streak<0 and day!=Monday and (H or rest<2) and (H or o:rest<2) and site streak>-3 and o:site streak!=2 and p:margin>-5 and op:goals<4 and rest + o:rest>0 and game number<75

                                                      p:L and pp:L and (p:shots on goal)>(po:shots on goal) and (pp:shots on goal)>(ppo:shots on goal) and A

                                                      playoffs=0 and game number>40 and WP>60 and line<-170

                                                      Here are some strong ones on hawks:

                                                      AD and 7>=tS(L, N=8)>=6 and t:date-p3:date<7 and line>=200 and season>=2010

                                                      A and total=5.5 and streak=-4 and t:date-p7:date<=14
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                                                      • Cutler'sThumb
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 12-06-11
                                                        • 287

                                                        #517
                                                        Originally posted by emceeaye
                                                        Here are some strong ones on hawks:

                                                        AD and 7>=tS(L, N=8)>=6 and t:date-p3:date<7 and line>=200 and season>=2010

                                                        A and total=5.5 and streak=-4 and t:date-p7:date<=14
                                                        Looks like you had the right of it. Hawks are rolling.
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                                                        • Cutler'sThumb
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 12-06-11
                                                          • 287

                                                          #518
                                                          Several good unders tonight:

                                                          H and conference!=o:conference and total>5 and po:goals<3 and ppo:goals>1 and p:goals>0 and 0<pp:goals<5 and ppp:goals>0 and playoffs=0

                                                          (day=Monday or day=Tuesday) and total>5 and 10>p:goals + op:goals>3 and H and 7>streak>-4 and o:streak>-3 and (game number>72 or game number<66) and (game number>41 or 3<game number<34)


                                                          Also, here's an over that JMon posted a few weeks ago that's active again:

                                                          A and p:W and p:margin=1 and p:division=po:division and op:HL and rest<3 and 4>o:rest>0 and total<6.5
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                                                          • emceeaye
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-20-13
                                                            • 704

                                                            #519
                                                            Originally posted by Cutler'sThumb
                                                            Several good unders tonight:

                                                            H and conference!=o:conference and total>5 and po:goals<3 and ppo:goals>1 and p:goals>0 and 0<pp:goals<5 and ppp:goals>0 and playoffs=0

                                                            (day=Monday or day=Tuesday) and total>5 and 10>p:goals + op:goals>3 and H and 7>streak>-4 and o:streak>-3 and (game number>72 or game number<66) and (game number>41 or 3<game number<34)


                                                            Also, here's an over that JMon posted a few weeks ago that's active again:

                                                            A and p:W and p:margin=1 and p:division=po:division and op:HL and rest<3 and 4>o:rest>0 and total<6.5
                                                            Here's one I just put together that supports a few under. However, one of them conflicts with the over predicted in one of the ones you posted.

                                                            Basically, this query capitalizes on the fact that under tend to predominate on Mondays. However, note that January isn't the best month for it...

                                                            day=Monday and month!=3 and month!=12 and total=5.5 and (rest=2 or o:rest=2)
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                                                            • Consigliere
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 02-10-13
                                                              • 126

                                                              #520
                                                              I'm now getting into the NHL betting with SDQL and just have a quick question about betting totals...on Pinnacle you can bet 5, 5.25, 5.5, 5.75 etc for the totals and the price changes..if the trend picks say an UNDER 5.5, on Pinnacle you could bet the U5.25 and get a higher payout....this makes no sense to me why this is offered? It will either be 5 or 6, why do they pay more if you pick U5.25 instead of U5.5??
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                                                              • nash13
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-21-14
                                                                • 1122

                                                                #521
                                                                5.25 means half of your money on Under 5 and the other half on Under 5.5, so to get the full amount, it hast to end in 4 goals or fewer. if it ends at 5 goals, half your money is void.
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                                                                • Consigliere
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 02-10-13
                                                                  • 126

                                                                  #522
                                                                  Ok. Makes sense now. Thanks Nash.
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                                                                  • emceeaye
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 08-20-13
                                                                    • 704

                                                                    #523
                                                                    Here's a super basic one with not a losing WP- or ROI- season since 2008. Nice short-term trend that will very likely end up with +ROI at the end of the month.

                                                                    WP>=o:WP+20 and H and (month=1) and season>=2009

                                                                    I will go with every one of these games of January.
                                                                    Last edited by emceeaye; 01-14-15, 12:38 AM.
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                                                                    • zxqwpdbg
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 10-25-14
                                                                      • 68

                                                                      #524
                                                                      what is the difference between these?

                                                                      nhl, regular, regular
                                                                      los angeles
                                                                      -0.5 -136
                                                                      ml -265

                                                                      nhl, ot included, regular
                                                                      los angeles
                                                                      -0.5 +144
                                                                      ml -185
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                                                                      • nash13
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-21-14
                                                                        • 1122

                                                                        #525
                                                                        the difference is that in the second choice you win if the kings win in overtime or shoot out. first choice not. our trends here depend on Money Line betting.
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