Negatively correlated scoring

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  • Juret
    SBR High Roller
    • 07-18-10
    • 113

    #1
    Negatively correlated scoring
    If scoring for the Home and Away team on a significant level are negatively correlated, what adjustment would you look to make to your model's predicted spread? Deriving win probabilities from a bivariate discrete distribution, the scoring for Home and Away are assumed to be independent. However, in my case, they are clearly not. Thoughts?


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  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    What sport are you analyzing? In most sports, I though scoring of two teams was positively correlated.
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    • mathdotcom
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-24-08
      • 11689

      #3
      It can go either way. In football id guess theyre positively correlated -- you can increase your expected offense per play by choosing risky plays but at the cost of more turnovers.

      I wouldnt be surprised if theyre -corr in soccer where they seem to be able to close the door relatively easily with the lead.
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      • Juret
        SBR High Roller
        • 07-18-10
        • 113

        #4
        I am analyzing a minor Nordic sport called bandy, think field hockey but on ice. The Pearson correlation is -0.236 (p=0.000).

        I read once that in NHL, scoring is slightly negatively correlated. I haven't tested that though.
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        • That Foreign Guy
          SBR Sharp
          • 07-18-10
          • 432

          #5
          Originally posted by Justin7
          What sport are you analyzing? In most sports, I though scoring of two teams was positively correlated.
          Only games where tempo affects totals (basketball is the most extreme example I think). Every time I score I am giving you a chance to score so the more I score the more chances you have.

          Games with a smaller tempo effect scoring is more negatively correlated. At the other extreme, take snooker which is played best of 15. If I win a frame you can't win it.
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          • princecharles
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 11-22-10
            • 827

            #6
            I've heard it described as the, 'Holding Serve' principle.
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            • That Foreign Guy
              SBR Sharp
              • 07-18-10
              • 432

              #7
              I thought about tennis as an example, but sports with win by 2 rules actually introduce some positive correlation when players are more evenly matched. Small effect to be sure, but I started over thinking my reply.
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