Jastin 7 I have read your book and had a question about home runs props

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  • newbee
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-05-08
    • 30

    #1
    Jastin 7 I have read your book and had a question about home runs props
    Justin7,
    Very informative book. I was wondering wether I use the right approach when I want to attack home runs over/under bets. Would it be fair to say that using totals of the game should be informative enough to attack the bet? Or am I missing something?

    Thanks,
  • Justin7
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-31-06
    • 8577

    #2
    There are better ways. Some teams (like Yankees) are built around sluggers, and have more home runs per run scored. Other teams focus less on slugging, and more on getting onto base. Your approach might be a starting point though.
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    • Thremp
      SBR MVP
      • 07-23-07
      • 2067

      #3
      You deleted my entire post because it embarrassed you. Quite frankly you should just delete that entire bit of tripe you just posted. It'd help you save face since its indicative of not understanding much of anything about baseball.
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      • Justin7
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-31-06
        • 8577

        #4
        Thremp,

        Feel free to discuss approaches. If you think something I have posted is factually or theoretically incorrect, address it. I'd actually be interested to see your factual basis.

        Your post is in PZ, where we move all insulting posts from HTT.
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        • Thremp
          SBR MVP
          • 07-23-07
          • 2067

          #5
          My questions again:

          1) Yanks rank in OBP
          2) HR
          3) IsoP
          4) HR/RS

          PseudoExpertise, thx play again.
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          • Maverick22
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-10-10
            • 807

            #6
            hmm...

            censorship by the man...
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            • Justin7
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 07-31-06
              • 8577

              #7
              In 2009, the Yankees had 244 HRs, vs Texas at 224 (#2) in regular season. OBP was .362, vs Boston (#2) at .352. you are correct they are not as good an example this year.

              the original question though, Thremp... what do you think of newbee's original question?
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              • Data
                SBR MVP
                • 11-27-07
                • 2236

                #8
                Originally posted by newbee
                Or am I missing something?
                Not a whole lot, just the pitchers, the batters, and the park.
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                • Justin7
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 07-31-06
                  • 8577

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Data
                  Not a whole lot, just the pitchers, the batters, and the park.
                  So the meat of the question:

                  Should a game with a total of X likely to have the same number of expected home runs? And if you assume yes, are you introducing a significant error in your pricing?

                  I mentioned the batting composition earlier. I think your answer also suggests that the total does not conclusively suggest a fair price on the expected number of home runs.
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                  • Thremp
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-23-07
                    • 2067

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Justin7
                    In 2009, the Yankees had 244 HRs, vs Texas at 224 (#2) in regular season. OBP was .362, vs Boston (#2) at .352. you are correct they are not as good an example this year. the original question though, Thremp... what do you think of newbee's original question?
                    Cool. Wasn't wondering if people were living in the stone age or selecting biased data.
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                    • Data
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-27-07
                      • 2236

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Justin7
                      So the meat of the question:

                      Should a game with a total of X likely to have the same number of expected home runs? And if you assume yes, are you introducing a significant error in your pricing?

                      I mentioned the batting composition earlier. I think your answer also suggests that the total does not conclusively suggest a fair price on the expected number of home runs.
                      No
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                      • newbee
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 12-05-08
                        • 30

                        #12
                        Thanks guys for your answers... No I change my method slightly. Let's say I introduce ML into equation. Would ML for home team + game total would be descriptive enough?
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