[nyplayer33]

Unless you are a degen....the risk of going busto is less with sports..poker has emotional factors.....cheating etc

[lcscanada]

I used to play poker for over 3 years. I grinded all over North America, in over 20 casinos. Tournament trips, cash game scoops, and it was a total grind. It's great the first few months, but then when you hit a patch of variance when nothing goes your way it's hell. I eventually transitioned to online, and the game is 10x harder online. Sure you save on travel costs, but you up against opponents that have tracking software, table scanners, databases, detailed notes, etc... players that have played hundreds of thousands of hands, and the profit margin has dropped considerably. Nobody is going to stack off top pair anymore, unless your at $5 sngs, but realistically it's not worth it anymore. Yes 5 years ago, but not until Rounders 2 comes up next year will there be another influx of poker, and yes it is true it is being made and original cast is in.

Also, remember that with poker, your looking at a dynamic game, with changing variables, and constant work. It's a lot more work then doing a few hours research, booking your bet, then that's it. Money can be made when your doing something else, where as with poker your only making money in the amount of time you put in actually playing.

I work now 2-3 hours a day. Some days 20 minutes, but i really like to shop lines, check injury reports, check history, etc... after my bets are done I go to a movie, or play some vids, or grab a beer with the guys.

Poker is a great way to learn BR management, swings, and math/stats, after a year or 2 you will be burned out. I would suggest doing both. More so on the sports side, and maybe play a Sunday tour (the mill or 750k on ftp) and treat it like a lottery ticket.

[username474]

I have gone from a high of 1.1bb p/100 @ 2000nl (5-10nl) in 05-06 to 0.2 bb p/100 @ 2000nl in 10/11. I make the majority of my poker income these days from rakeback. Sports betting has been near the same throughout that same period. I do not rely on my own plays to make a living at sportsbetting but, if I were to have to invest more time of the day to just one discipline it would be sportsbetting without a doubt.

On the other hand if I was trying to build a BR with a starting point of 5k I would choose poker every day of the week.

[20Four7]

Your average person will be a loser in both. There is no doubt about it. A skilled sports bettor's competition is the book(s) he plays at. The poker player as he becomes better has to play against tougher opponents. The game changes and any edge becomes smaller.

[Peregrine Stoop]

Both are hard work if you want to make big coin unless you are a savant like Phil Ivey or Tom Dwan. There is no such thing as a Phil Ivey of sportsbetting though, except for Phil Ivey himself who is also a huge whale.

Those guys are not savants. They spent many, many hours working hard on their games. You don't see consistently high winners at poker that haven't put in the hours. My guess is it would be the same for sportsbetting, but that industry's big winners are less visible.

[JustinBieber]

Both are hard work if you want to make big coin unless you are a savant like Phil Ivey or Tom Dwan. There is no such thing as a Phil Ivey of sportsbetting though, except for Phil Ivey himself who is also a huge whale.

Billy Walters?

[Tackleberry]

Your average person will be a loser in both. There is no doubt about it. A skilled sports bettor's competition is the book(s) he plays at. The poker player as he becomes better has to play against tougher opponents. The game changes and any edge becomes smaller.

I agree with this.

People seem to be talking about where the average person will win the most. I think a better question is where will the average person lose the least. Since I believe your average person will be a long term loser they should just do whatever gives them the most enjoyment personally and play at stakes that fit their budget.

[mikeanite]

hands down sports

[Joey Zaza]

So, would you say there more poker millionaires than sports betting millionaires?

It feels like there are more poker millionaires to me, though that might just be because poker is shown on TV, giving the best players more exposure.

I could probably only name a handful of sports betting millionaires (Bloom, Findlay, Veitch, Benham from the UK, Ranogajec, Fltcher [?] from Australia, Walters U.S). But I guess that most, if not all, of the players who regularly feature on poker TV shows are worth 7 figures plus?

[username474]

So, would you say there more poker millionaires than sports betting millionaires?

It feels like there are more poker millionaires to me, though that might just be because poker is shown on TV, giving the best players more exposure.

I could probably only name a handful of sports betting millionaires (Bloom, Findlay, Veitch, Benham from the UK, Ranogajec, Fltcher [?] from Australia, Walters U.S). But I guess that most, if not all, of the players who regularly feature on poker TV shows are worth 7 figures plus?

There are many more people that have put away 1+m from sportsbetting, then poker, I do not even think it is close or even arguable. Even alot of the so called poker superstars have made more money betting sports then playing poker. There is a huge media presence in Poker coupled with the fact that sports bettors in countries that tax the shit out of thier profits are going to be a little less forthcoming.

[That Foreign Guy]

I switched from poker to sportsbetting

Sportbetting is definitely not as easily sacaleable as some posters make out (at least not if you're line shopping, using promotions, playing minor sports, etc). I'm already seeing my ROI drop as I have lost some of the more retarded books I was playing at.

It is also harder to control your volume at sports betting. I might want to get $X in play tonight, but there are only so many games I might be able to find a +EV line on and if the bookies are having a good day I might not get what I expect.

With poker there is always a game, so I can play more hours or more tables and make more money (in theory).

Sportsbetting is also getting harder. Things that used to be a goldmine are now a little profit, things that used to be a little profit are now mostly sharp. I've noticed this even over the last year on a small scale.

I am sure old timers can tell us about the days you used to be able to parlay Tigers -50 with over 55 for a game.