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  • BigSpoon
    SBR MVP
    • 11-04-10
    • 4113

    #3676
    A-Rod led Cano down the cheating path during their time in the Bronx together.
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    • EmpireMaker
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-18-09
      • 15575

      #3677
      The Tigers made notable progress in 2020 (granted, there was nowhere to go but up after their previous campaign), but they still finished well under .500 for the fourth straight year. GM Al Avila has already hired A.J. Hinch to replace the retired Ron Gardenhire as the Tigers’ next manager. The next step is improving their roster.
      Guaranteed Contracts
      • Miguel Cabrera, 1B/DH: $102MM through 2023 (including $8MM buyout for 2023)

      Arbitration-Eligible Players
      Note on arb-eligible players: this year’s arbitration projections are more volatile than ever, given the unprecedented revenue losses felt by clubs and the shortened 2020 schedule. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz, who developed our arbitration projection model, used three different methods to calculate different projection numbers. You can see the full projections and an explanation of each if you click here, but for the purposes of our Outlook series, we’ll be using Matt’s 37-percent method — extrapolating what degree of raise a player’s 2020 rate of play would have earned him in a full 162-game slate and then awarding him 37 percent of that raise.

      Free Agents

      Let’s start with the infield, which could see quite a shakeup this offseason. The Tigers had a couple of 20-something breakout players there in shortstop Willi Castro and third baseman/first baseman Jeimer Candelario, but it’s not clear where either will primarily line up next season.
      In regards to Castro, Avila said after the season (via Evan Woodbery of MLive.com), “We feel he has the athletic ability to play anywhere in the infield.”
      Although Castro had a huge offensive year at short, that doesn’t mean the Tigers will keep him there. They may instead be tempted to pursue Korean star Ha-Seong Kim, a 24-year-old whom the KBO’s Kiwoom Heroes will post this offseason. According to Baseball America, Kim’s a top 100-caliber prospect, so lots of teams – including rebuilding clubs – should be after him. From Detroit’s perspective, it would seemingly make sense to bring in Kim as a Day 1 starter, either as a third baseman or shortstop. If it’s the latter, the Tigers could put Castro at the keystone, move on from free agent Jonathan Schoop and eschew the rest of the middle class of second base free agents (Kolten Wong, Cesar Hernandez and Tommy La Stella are among those names).
      Candelario, meanwhile, began the year as the Tigers’ third baseman, but he shifted to first after C.J. Cron underwent season-ending knee surgery in August. Cron’s a free agent who’s near the top of a weak class for free-agent first basemen; so, rather than go back to him or try for a different veteran first baseman (Carlos Santana and Justin Smoak are also a couple of names out there), perhaps the Tigers will leave Candelario at the position. A Candelario-Castro-Kim scenario from right to left would leave the Tigers with a potential need at third, though they may simply decide to let Isaac Paredes sink or swim there or sign someone like Jake Lamb or Marwin Gonzalez to man the spot. Paredes, for his part, had a very rough debut as the Tigers’ top third baseman in 2020, but he’s still just 21 years old and not far removed from top 100 status as a prospect.
      Elsewhere in the Tigers’ lineup, it’s unclear how they’ll handle catcher or assemble their outfield. They signed former Yankees catcher Austin Romine to a $4.1MM guarantee last offseason with the hope that he’d emerge as a true full-time player, but he instead endured an awful season and is once again due to reach free agency. Detroit’s other choices, Grayson Greiner and Eric Haase, also produced next to nothing at the plate, while Jake Rogers still hasn’t established himself at the MLB level.
      Avila said last month he’d like offensive help behind the plate, but he seemed to suggest he’d rather rely on the eventual emergence of Rogers. It’s unknown, then, whether the Tigers will seek veteran help at the position in the offseason. If they do, the Tigers probably won’t be be in on the two best free-agent catchers available, J.T. Realmuto and ex-Tiger James McCann. However, the GM’s son, former Tiger Alex Avila, as well as Yadier Molina, Jason Castro, Mike Zunino, Wilson Ramos, Kurt Suzuki, Robinson Chirinos and Tyler Flowers are available as Band-Aids if the team wants to bridge the gap to Rogers in free agency. Gary Sanchez could also end up in free agency or as an attainable trade target if the Yankees decide to move on from him.
      The Tigers are probably content with two-thirds of their outfield with center fielder JaCoby Jones and corner man Victor Reyes. The other spot may be up for grabs, though, as Christin Stewart didn’t hit in either of the previous two seasons, they can’t count on Niko Goodrum as a regular, and Daz Cameron hasn’t shown he’s ready for a full-time major league role. MLBTR predicts the club will supplement its outfield with a Jurickson Profar signing, but Joc Pederson, Robbie Grossman, Kevin Pillar and Adam Eaton are among others it could spend on for short-term help.
      Turning to the pitching side, the Tigers seem to have three-fifths of next year’s rotation set with Matthew Boyd, Spencer Turnbull and Michael Fulmer. But Turnbull was the only member of the trio who performed well in 2020. Boyd looked like a breakout candidate as recently as the first half of 2019, but his production has fallen off a cliff since then. The Tigers will soon have to make a decision on whether to retain Boyd, as Anthony Franco of MLBTR explained last weekend. Like Boyd, Fulmer has shown flashes in the past, but he’s coming off a rough return from Tommy John surgery.
      Beyond Boyd, Turnbull and Fulmer, the Tigers do have some rather promising young hurlers in Casey Mize, Tarik Skubal, Matt Manning and Alex Faedo – four of their top prospects. Mize and Skuball debuted in the majors in 2020, though they had trouble keeping runs off the board in their first taste of MLB action.
      Any of Mize, Skubal, Manning or Faedo could factor into the Tigers’ rotation next year, but it seems they’ll look to take some pressure off by adding at least one veteran this offseason. They’ve already shown interest in free agent Taijuan Walker, who could be a reasonably priced acquisition on a one- or tw0-year deal. Former Tiger Rick Porcello, Garrett Richards, Martin Perez and Mike Minor might also be among potential targets for the team.
      Moving to the bullpen, the Tigers look to be mostly set with what they have. Daniel Norris blossomed in a relief role in 2020, while Jose Cisnero also turned in encouraging results. Bryan Garcia, Gregory Soto, Buck Farmer and Tyler Alexander also probably aren’t going anywhere, though there’s at least room for improvement over John Schreiber and Joe Jimenez (the latter looks like a non-tender candidate). That’s not to say the Tigers will shop near the top of the market for relief help, but with the wealth of veteran bullpen options looking for deals, they should be able to improve their late-game outlook in free agency.
      The Tigers have had their share of aggressive offseasons in the past, but they have been relatively quiet of late during their rebuild. Once again, the Tigers probably won’t be that active this winter. That said, with some legitimate talent in or near the majors and a rising farm system led by last year’s No. 1 overall pick, first baseman Spencer Torkelson, Detroit’s time is coming.
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      • Otters27
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 07-14-07
        • 30749

        #3678
        Tigers might be a team to follow and bet next year
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65389

          #3679
          Originally posted by Otters27
          Tigers might be a team to follow and bet next year
          If you bet them every game next season for 162 games, you would need Detroit to win more than 65 games if the average price per game you bet them were +140.

          +140 is about 42 percent, and 42 percent of 162 games is about 65
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          • Cross
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 04-15-11
            • 5777

            #3680
            Cano is just not very good at cheating.
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            • JAKEPEAVY21
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 03-11-11
              • 29243

              #3681
              Originally posted by Cross
              Cano is just not very good at cheating.
              He should have got in touch with Victor Conte for some pointers.
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              • stevenash
                Moderator
                • 01-17-11
                • 65389

                #3682
                Originally posted by Cross
                Cano is just not very good at cheating.
                Jeter couldn't stand him, Jeter couldn't stomach A-Rod either but I think DJ liked A-Rod more than Cano which isn't saying much.

                Derek Jeter couldn't stand Chad Curtis the most but that's another story for another day.
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                • batt33
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 12-23-16
                  • 5999

                  #3683
                  Originally posted by stevenash
                  If you bet them every game next season for 162 games, you would need Detroit to win more than 65 games if the average price per game you bet them were +140.

                  +140 is about 42 percent, and 42 percent of 162 games is about 65
                  That would be interesting to track..
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                  • Chi_archie
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-22-08
                    • 63165

                    #3684
                    I wonder how active the rule V draft will be this year
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                    • koz-man
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-21-08
                      • 7102

                      #3685
                      ESPN to broadcast four MLB games on Opening Day 2021

                      The Los Angeles Dodgers will begin defense of their World Series championship on the road against the Colorado Rockies as part of an Opening Day quadrupleheader to be broadcast on ESPN on Thursday, April 1.
                      In all, ESPN will cover 11 season-opening games, involving 19 teams, over the first week of the 2021 Major League Baseball season.
                      ESPN will kick off the season April 1 with the Toronto Blue Jays visiting the New York Yankees (1 p.m. ET), followed by the Dodgers-Rockies game (4 p.m.). The New York Mets, under new owner Steve Cohen, will travel to take on the Washington Nationals (7 p.m. ET), and the day will be capped by the Houston Astros visiting the Oakland Athletics (10 p.m. ET).
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                      • JMobile
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 08-21-10
                        • 19074

                        #3686
                        Originally posted by Otters27
                        Tigers might be a team to follow and bet next year
                        I feel like the Braves will comeback
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                        • hotcross
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 08-04-17
                          • 7934

                          #3687
                          Which poster will make a new thread for the 2021 season? EmpireMaker when you are ready ?
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                          • EmpireMaker
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-18-09
                            • 15575

                            #3688
                            Originally posted by hotcross
                            Which poster will make a new thread for the 2021 season? EmpireMaker when you are ready ?

                            I'm ready on Jan 1
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                            • EmpireMaker
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-18-09
                              • 15575

                              #3689
                              Second baseman DJ LeMahieu was a godsend for the Yankees during the previous two seasons, but as a free agent, he could go elsewhere this offseason. Re-signing with the Yankees is LeMahieu’s preference, according to Ken Davidoff of the New York Post, but the 2020 American League batting champion wants to stay in the area. That could put a LeMahieu-Mets union in play, per Davidoff, though he reports that the Blue Jays are also in on him.
                              The Mets now have an unexpected opening at the keystone after starter Robinson Cano received a 162-game suspension Wednesday because of performance-enhancing drugs. Cano won’t earn a penny of his $24MM salary as a result, which will only make it easier for new, deep-pocketed Mets owner Steve Cohen to make splashes this winter. The Mets don’t necessarily have to throw money around at second, as they could simply use Jeff McNeil at the position and allocate their cash elsewhere, but LeMahieu does look like a more realistic option for the franchise than he did before Cano’s punishment came down.
                              The Yankees, for their part, aren’t going to let LeMahieu walk without a fight. They already gave LeMahieu a qualifying offer worth $18.9MM for 2021, but he made the no-brainer decision to reject it. They still want to keep him, however, according to Davidoff.
                              Regardless of whether LeMahieu stays with the Yankees, the team’s call to sign him for two years and $24MM before 2019 was a masterstroke, considering he was its best player over the prior two seasons. The 32-year-old former Cub and Rockie is now coming off a near-MVP season, which puts LeMahieu in position to clean up during this winter’s free-agent period. MLBTR pegs LeMahieu for a four-year, $68MM contract, though it wouldn’t be surprising to see him do even better than that on the open market.
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                              • Otters27
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-14-07
                                • 30749

                                #3690
                                Originally posted by JMobile
                                I feel like the Braves will comeback
                                Yes brave too.

                                A return to tamahak chop in the World Series
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                                • jrgum3
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-21-17
                                  • 7005

                                  #3691
                                  Originally posted by Otters27
                                  Yes brave too.

                                  A return to tamahak chop in the World Series
                                  They need more pitching. I like their top 3 starters but I feel like they need to bolster the rotation if they are to reach the World Series. Probably need to add a good veteran arm to round out their rotation which has some nice young arms.
                                  Last edited by jrgum3; 11-20-20, 08:26 AM.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65389

                                    #3692
                                    Originally posted by Otters27
                                    Yes brave too.

                                    A return to tamahak chop in the World Series
                                    I got sick of that chop pretty much the time Chipper was a rookie.
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                                    • Cross
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 04-15-11
                                      • 5777

                                      #3693
                                      I want to hear the Chad Curtis story!
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                                      • EmpireMaker
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-18-09
                                        • 15575

                                        #3694
                                        Nolan Arenado’s future in Colorado — or perhaps the lack thereof — will be one of the main storylines throughout the 2020-21 offseason. The 29-year-old has publicly voiced dissatisfaction with the organization in the past, and another poor season followed comments from owner Dick Monfort that foreshadow a tight-budgeted winter don’t figure to improve the relationship.
                                        In this week’s Offseason Outlook for the Rockies, I laid out the reasons that trading Arenado isn’t as simple as some might think. On the surface, a five-time All-Star who has won eight Gold Gloves in eight MLB seasons while hitting .293/.349/.541 and averaging nearly five WAR per season seems like a player who’d be highly in demand. As with any player, however, Arenado’s trade value is inextricably linked to his contractual status, and the franchise-record extension he signed in 2019 muddies the water.

                                        Arenado is still owed a hefty six years and $199MM between now and the 2026 season. He’s due $35MM in 2021, and his contract allows him to opt out of the remaining five years and $164MM at season’s end. Any club that acquires Arenado recognizes there’s a chance he’ll only be around for one season. If Arenado plays at the level an acquiring team would hope for upon making the trade, that team knows there’s a chance he’ll opt out. The Covid-19 pandemic has obviously changed the financial outlook for many clubs and altered the sports economy, but Arenado would surely look at Anthony Rendon’s seven-year, $245MM contract and wonder whether he could approach that level with a big 2021 showing.
                                        On the other hand, Arenado had his worst season ever at the plate in 2020 and finished the year on the IL due to shoulder soreness. That’s enough to already make some clubs wary, particularly because if that proves to be the start of a trend, they’d be stuck paying more than $33MM annually to a player on the decline. There’s no way Arenado opts out if he repeats this past season’s .253/.303/.454 output, so there’s inherent risk of being stuck with an albatross contract here.
                                        A trade is further complicated by the fact that the Rockies would of course want to receive quality young talent in return. The optics of dumping Arenado simply to be rid of his salary would be extraordinarily poor for Monfort and general manager Jeff Bridich. Given the risk associated with the contract and Arenado’s shaky 2020 campaign, it’s frankly difficult to imagine a team taking on Arenado’s contract and parting with considerable prospect capital. The Rockies might have to pay down some of the deal and/or take another sizable salary on in return if they hope to find a palatable trade.
                                        As if that context doesn’t complicate matters enough, also consider that Arenado has a full no-trade clause baked into the deal. He may welcome the the opportunity for a fresh start, but it’s possible he’ll need to be incentivized to waive that clause as well. Topping things off is that he’s not even the only All-Star third baseman who could be moved this winter. The Cubs figure to seriously entertain the possibility of trading Kris Bryant. A former Rookie of the Year and NL MVP, Bryant is coming off a down season of his own but has a similar ceiling with none of Arenado’s long-term risk. Bryant is in his final year of arbitration and is a free agent next winter. Only one team can get Bryant, of course, so interested teams that miss out could turn to Arenado. It’s also possible that some clubs prefer the Arenado gamble — long-term risk and all. Regardless, Bryant’s presence on the market plays a factor in any potential Arenado talks.
                                        Suffice it to say, trading Arenado is a daunting task for the Rockies. Based on name value alone, one might think nearly every team would be inclined to look, but the majority of clubs around the game can be written off almost immediately. We can rule out low-spending clubs like the Indians, Pirates, Rays, Athletics and Marlins, as Arenado’s contract would be considered too extravagant for their budgets. The D-backs are still paying Zack Greinke to play for someone else and traded Paul Goldschmidt away rather than meeting his $130MM extension price — far less than the $199MM owed to Arenado.
                                        The Brewers already gave a mega-deal to Christian Yelich and wouldn’t risk a second one. The Angels signed Rendon to the aforementioned $245MM deal last winter, and the Twins are very likely out after inking Josh Donaldson for $92MM. Cincinnati has Eugenio Suarez at third base and probably couldn’t stomach paying a combined $60MM to Arenado and Joey Votto anyhow, as phonetically pleasing as that pairing might otherwise be. The Astros have Alex Bregman at third base and could conceivably move him to another position, but that’s a reach with Carlos Correa locked in at shortstop. The Phillies look set at the corners with Alec Bohm and Rhys Hoskins.
                                        We can also eliminate any clubs that are in the midst of a rebuild. The Rangers appear to be just starting down that road, and the Orioles aren’t far enough along in the process to consider a splash of this magnitude. The Tigers and Royals are hoping to soon emerge from rebuilding efforts, but this doesn’t seem likely for either unless it’s part of a sudden and unexpected all-in push. Elsewhere in the AL Central, the White Sox have a strong infield as is and would probably prefer to allocate resources to the rotation and/or right field. Maybe they could try Yoan Moncada in right, but Arenado is something of a square peg in a round hole for the South Siders.
                                        Over in St. Louis, the Cardinals have been connected to a heavy-hitting third baseman for years, be it Arenado or Donaldson. It hasn’t come to pass yet, and while the need very arguably still exists after Matt Carpenter floundered through a tough 2020 season, it’s hard to imagine the Cardinals adding a contract of this magnitude. This is the same team that just declined Kolten Wong’s $12.5MM option in the name of financial flexibility, and the same club that seems to be grappling with whether it can afford to re-sign franchise icons Yadier Molina and Adam Wainwright. Owner Bill DeWitt Jr. brazenly lamented the baseball industry’s lack of profitability earlier this spring and more recently offered a very reserved assessment of his club’s payroll outlook.
                                        That’s a whole lot of teams that don’t seem likely to jump in on Arenado, so let’s turn to run through some clubs that might not be immediately ruled out.
                                        Mets: Now backed by baseball’s richest owner and suddenly spared the $20.25MM they previously owed to Robinson Cano in 2021, the Mets are seemingly connected to every big fish on the free-agent and trade markets alike. Arenado would add an all-world defender to a club whose defense has been miserable for several years running. Incumbents J.D. Davis and Jeff McNeil are solid options, but McNeil can play second with Cano suspended and Arenado should be a big upgrade over Davis. The Mets could conceivably even put Davis in a package to acquire Arenado, as he’d give the Rox a controllable, quality alternative with a nice bat.
                                        Nationals: The loss of Rendon was clearly felt throughout the Nationals’ lineup in 2020, as Carter Kieboom wasn’t able to step up and fill the void. The Nats have Max Scherzer’s contract off the books after the 2021 season and could reallocate those long-term dollars to Arenado while entrusting Stephen Strasburg and Patrick Corbin to front the rotation. Washington’s payroll ranks toward the top of the league on a yearly basis, and GM Mike Rizzo isn’t afraid to make high-priced splashes. Adding Arenado would block Kieboom at third base, perhaps pushing him to second base or making him expendable in a trade — be it this hypothetical deal or another swap.
                                        Braves: The Braves don’t have a clear third baseman in light of Austin Riley’s struggles, making this a solid on-paper fit. However, this is the exact type of move general manager Alex Anthopoulos has avoided since coming to Atlanta. He eschewed a long-term commitment to Josh Donaldson despite considerable fan backlash and has yet to acquire any player on more than a three-year deal (Will Smith). The seven- and eight-year deals for Ozzie Albies and Ronald Acuna Jr. were pre-arbitration bargains — the polar opposite of paying top-of-the-market value for a superstar already approaching his 30th birthday. Additionally, the club will likely still need to set aside some money to extend Freddie Freeman. This will be a frequently suggested landing spot for Arenado, but contextually, it doesn’t feel as strong as it looks at first glance.
                                        Blue Jays: General manager Ross Atkins has already talked about acquiring “elite” players this winter, as the Jays have watched a strong young core emerge at the MLB level. Incumbent third baseman Travis Shaw is an obvious non-tender candidate, and while the Jays have some appealing youngsters down on the farm, a healthy Arenado is better than the ceiling of virtually any third base prospect. The Blue Jays quietly have quite a bit of financial flexibility, and if they could try to send Randal Grichuk back to Colorado as one of the pieces to offset a portion of the weight of Arenado’s contract (and fill a need for the Rockies at the same time).
                                        Dodgers: A team with pockets as deep as the Dodgers and a farm system to match is of course going to be mentioned in connection to any high-profile trade target. They’ve been linked to Arenado in the past, and this morning while I was finishing this very piece, MLB.com’s Jon Morosi wrote about their continued interest. Adding Arenado would effectively displace free agent Justin Turner, who is revered in the L.A. clubhouse, but at least for the moment, there’s a vacancy at the hot corner at Dodger Stadium. Of course, the Dodgers just locked up Mookie Betts on his own mega-deal and may not be keen on issuing another. And it’s anyone’s guess whether the Rockies would actually consider trading one of the best players in franchise history to a division nemesis.
                                        Giants: Speaking of division rivals — the Giants look to be coming out of their own rebuilding effort and have the money to take on Arenado’s contract. Brandon Belt, Brandon Crawford and Johnny Cueto will all be off the books after the 2021 season, leaving the long-term payroll outlook wide open. Veteran Evan Longoria is a roadblock at third base for the moment, but the Giants could send him back to Colorado as a means of both giving the Rockies a ready-made replacement and also offsetting some of the considerable cost they’d be taking on with Arenado’s contract. Younger talent would surely need to be added to make this appealing for the Rockies, of course. President of baseball ops Farhan Zaidi has spoken of a focus on the pitching staff and only looking at “complementary” position players, but he’s also said he hopes to return to the playoffs as soon as 2021.
                                        Padres: We might as well get a little weird and round out the division-rival trifecta with an off-the-wall Padres suggestion. The Friars already have Manny Machado and his $300MM contract at third base and young superstar Fernando Tatis Jr. at shortstop. There were at least rumblings of potentially moving Tatis to the outfield in the event of a Francisco Lindor acquisition by the Padres, however. Adding Arenado would require an even more elaborate position shuffle, with Machado going back to shortstop and Tatis moving to the outfield grass. It’s a long shot that would likely require the Rockies taking a bad contract back — e.g. Wil Myers, Eric Hosmer — with the Padres chipping in some notable young talent. We’ve all learned by now not to count San Diego general manager A.J. Preller out of any scenario, but there’d be a whole lot of moving parts to get Arenado down to the Gaslamp Quarter.
                                        Yankees: Like the Dodgers, the Yankees are almost an obligatory entrant in these types of exercises. They’re looking to pare back payroll this winter after spending at record levels in 2020, and their primary focus appears to be on retaining DJ LeMahieu. Arenado would be a luxury rather than a necessity — and a risky one at that — but the Yankees aren’t short on MLB-ready talent they could send back. Either of Gio Urshela or Miguel Andujar could appeal to the Rockies, and the team has some young pitching to work in as well. Arenado would be a tough fit with both Gerrit Cole and Giancarlo Stanton both on the books long-term, of course.
                                        Cubs: It seems unlikely that the Cubs would take on a major contract after consecutive offseasons of effectively sitting out free agency. Owner Tom Ricketts has spent two years claiming not to have additional resources to allocate to the roster and earlier this summer proclaimed that ownership losses during the pandemic have been “biblical” in nature. The Cubs just laid off 100-some employees, per The Athletic. But they’re also expected to be active in reshaping the roster under new president of baseball ops Jed Hoyer, and they could jettison enough salary that cramming Arenado onto the books doesn’t seem impossible. Some combination of Bryant, Kyle Schwarber, Yu Darvish and Willson Contreras could be moved this winter. Fitting Arenado into the picture still could be a stretch, though.
                                        Red Sox: Boston already has Rafael Devers at the hot corner, but there’s been some speculation about him sliding across the diamond due to defensive struggles at third base. It’s admittedly tough to see the Red Sox taking on a contract like this less than one year after trading Mookie Betts and dumping David Price’s contract in order to limbo under the luxury tax line, but they’re a big-market team with huge payroll capabilities and probably don’t want to be a division afterthought for too long.
                                        Mariners: Saving the most fun suggestion for last, let’s not overlook Jerry Dipoto’s ability to surprise the baseball world. “Trader Jerry” has rebuilt this organization’s farm system in a matter of two years and brought a number of interesting young players to Seattle — many of whom have now reached the Majors. Adding Arenado to an infield that already has two young Gold Glove winners in J.P. Crawford and Evan White would give the club a defense for the ages, and before anyone questions whether Seattle can afford to pay Arenado $33MM per year, consider that as of 2022, the only players on the books for the M’s are Marco Gonzales ($5.75MM) and White ($1.4MM). Bringing Arenado into the mix likely pushes Kyle Seager to designated hitter for the final year of his contract, which might be for the best given his declining defensive metrics.

                                        That’s a whole lot of words on trading Arenado, but it’s important to remember that a deal coming together shouldn’t be considered a given. Arenado is not a Francisco Lindor-esque guarantee to be traded prior to Opening Day due to the complexity of his contract and the difficulty the Rockies will have getting what they’d deem fair value in return. Any of the highlighted teams at the end of this exercise could emerge as a rumored trade partner, though some are obvious reaches. In my view, the best clubs for the Rockies to work with are the Mets, Nationals, Dodgers, Blue Jays and, yes, the Mariners. That’s not to say any of those clubs are in talks or are likely to acquire him, however.
                                        Of course, any trade depends on the extent to which those clubs believe Arenado can rebound from a mediocre year at the plate and the extent to which they’re willing to gamble on the glaring downside that is inherently woven into his contract. Trading Arenado isn’t as simple as some will make it out to be this winter, but it’s a reality the Rockies will have to explore.
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                                        • Cross
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 04-15-11
                                          • 5777

                                          #3695
                                          If the Dodgers get Arenado, might as well crown them.
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 03-11-11
                                            • 29243

                                            #3696
                                            Originally posted by Cross
                                            If the Dodgers get Arenado, might as well crown them.
                                            That would be so foul...Arenado is such a stud defensively, best I've ever seen at 3rd.
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                                            • BigSpoon
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-04-10
                                              • 4113

                                              #3697
                                              Would be tough to pay both Betts and Arenado long term.
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                                              • stevenash
                                                Moderator
                                                • 01-17-11
                                                • 65389

                                                #3698
                                                Originally posted by Cross
                                                I want to hear the Chad Curtis story!
                                                2 things.

                                                Curtis called out Jeter for not participating in one of those middle of the field fights involving a brush back pitch.
                                                Pretty much told Jeter he was a pussy for not backing up his teammates for not getting involved in one of those 'pitchers mound two team dances'

                                                And Curtis is in jail for allegedly having sex with a teenage girl.
                                                Doing serious time too.

                                                Curtis says it's all a misunderstanding. (Whatever, everyone in jail says they're not guilty)
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                                                • Cross
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-15-11
                                                  • 5777

                                                  #3699
                                                  Jeter getting Mariah Carey and Curtis seeking out teenagers. Lol.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65389

                                                    #3700
                                                    Originally posted by Cross
                                                    Jeter getting Mariah Carey and Curtis seeking out teenagers. Lol.
                                                    Jeter is a hard man to like.
                                                    Oh sure everybody would have loved to have him as their SS, but in real life he's steely cold.

                                                    I met Jeter and Jason Sehorn (when he was a NYG) at Joe's Pub in NYC years ago.
                                                    Sehorn was cool enough, shook my hand and all that other cordial horseshit but Jeter not only would give me the time of day when all I wanted to say was hi and move along but the dude wouldn't even give me eye contact.

                                                    I get that he must get approached a lot when in public, but if you're going to be out at a local music pub it's part of the job description and if you're bothered than just stay home.
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                                                    • mr. leisure
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 01-29-08
                                                      • 17507

                                                      #3701
                                                      Chad curtis with a malcontent all the way back with the angels .
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                                                      • JMobile
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-21-10
                                                        • 19074

                                                        #3702
                                                        Rays DFA'D Hunter Renfroe.

                                                        Padres should just pick him up. Maybe Hunter got home sick.
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                                                        • batt33
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 12-23-16
                                                          • 5999

                                                          #3703
                                                          Originally posted by Cross
                                                          If the Dodgers get Arenado, might as well crown them.
                                                          Meh, still have to play the game
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                                                          • BigSpoon
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-04-10
                                                            • 4113

                                                            #3704
                                                            Originally posted by Cross
                                                            I want to hear the Chad Curtis story!
                                                            When you google his name the first pic of him is in a uniform but not a baseball one.
                                                            Last edited by BigSpoon; 11-22-20, 12:08 AM.
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                                                            • Cross
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                                                              • 04-15-11
                                                              • 5777

                                                              #3705
                                                              Curtis not quite Aaron Hernandez I guess, but a piece of shit nonetheless.
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                                                              • jrgum3
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                                                                • 07-21-17
                                                                • 7005

                                                                #3706
                                                                Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                                Would be tough to pay both Betts and Arenado long term.
                                                                Yep that may be the only thing that prevents them from going after Arenado. If they did though they would be nasty as usual 1-9 in their lineup.
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                                                                • EmpireMaker
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                                                                  • 06-18-09
                                                                  • 15575

                                                                  #3707
                                                                  • The Rangers have expressed interest in free agent left-hander J.A. Happ, reports Jon Morosi of MLB.com (Twitter link). Texas is expected to work younger players into the fold after posting the worst record in the American League in 2020. Nevertheless, the Rangers figure to explore the market for plenty of lower-cost starting pitchers this winter, particularly if they trade Lance Lynn before his final year under contract. The 38-year-old Happ put up a 4.57 ERA across 210.2 innings with the Yankees from 2019-20. He’s also known to have drawn some attention from the Angels, likely among plenty of others.
                                                                  • The Pirates designated José Osuna for assignment yesterday, suggesting they were prepared to non-tender him rather than pay his projected $1.1MM arbitration salary. The organization expects Osuna to pursue an opportunity in Asia, general manager Ben Cherington told reporters (including Rob Biertempfel of the Athletic). It isn’t yet clear if that job is in Japan’s NPB or in South Korea’s KBO. The 27-year-old (28 in December) hit .241/.280/.430 over 705 plate appearances for Pittsburgh over the past four seasons.
                                                                  • Aroldis Chapman will now serve a two-game suspension to start the 2021 season, relays Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link). The Yankees reliever was originally suspended three games for (intentionally, in MLB’s determination) throwing a pitch near the head of Rays infielder Mike Brosseau. Chapman managed to shave a game off on appeal. Brosseau, of course, went on to hit a series-winning home run off Chapman a month later during Tampa Bay’s run to the American League pennant.
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                                                                  • Otters27
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                                                                    • 07-14-07
                                                                    • 30749

                                                                    #3708
                                                                    J A Happ

                                                                    Had his shot with the Yankees
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                                                                    • koz-man
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                                                                      • 11-21-08
                                                                      • 7102

                                                                      #3709
                                                                      New York Mets sign 6-foot-7 pitcher Sam McWilliams to 1-year deal

                                                                      NEW YORK -- The New York Mets have signed right-hander Sam McWilliams, who's spent six years in the minor leagues with three other organizations.
                                                                      The Mets announced the one-year contract Friday. The 25-year-old will get $750,000 in the majors and $195,000 in the minors.
                                                                      The 6-foot-7 McWilliams was in Tampa Bay's 60-player pool this year, He is 30-35 with a 3.85 ERA in his career, making 94 starts and 15 relief appearances.
                                                                      McWilliams pitched in the Philadelphia and Arizona systems before making it to Triple-A with Tampa Bay in 2019.
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                                                                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                        • 03-11-11
                                                                        • 29243

                                                                        #3710
                                                                        Originally posted by JMobile
                                                                        Rays DFA'D Hunter Renfroe.

                                                                        Padres should just pick him up. Maybe Hunter got home sick.
                                                                        He didn't even hit his middle school weight last season.
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