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  • jrgum3
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 07-21-17
    • 7005

    #3746
    Originally posted by stevenash
    Braves were serious contenders last season.
    They're core is young, they'll be in contention for years to come.
    That's true they are set up to be perennial World Series contenders but I still felt like they needed to address their Starting pitching despite the fact that their top 3 starters are very good. In the playoffs they missed Soroka but still pitched well for the most part. Adding Morton makes them even stronger with their rotation and I felt they needed a veteran anchor to their staff especially if they want to win a World Series.
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    • EmpireMaker
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 06-18-09
      • 15575

      #3747
      The Indians have claimed right-hander Jordan Humphreys off waivers from the Giants and, in a corresponding move, designated righty Adam Cimber for assignment, according to a club announcement. San Francisco had designated Humphreys for assignment back on Friday.
      Cimber, 30, came to Cleveland alongside recently waived All-Star Brad Hand in the trade that sent catching prospect Francisco Mejia to the Padres. It proved to be a worthwhile swap for Cleveland, as Mejia hasn’t contributed much of anything to the Padres yet, but the hope at the time of the deal was surely that Hand and Cimber would hold down key bullpen roles into at least the 2021 season. This past season’s lost revenues prompted the Indians to decline Hand’s option, however, and Cimber was likely deemed expendable due to a looming arbitration raise and the fact that he never pitched as well in Cleveland as he did for the Padres.
      Cimber was a 27-year-old rookie with San Diego in ’17 but carved out an important role in their bullpen by pitching to a 3.17 ERA with a 51-to-10 K/BB ratio in 48 1/3 innings prior to the trade. That performance and Cimber’s five-and-a-half remaining years of club control surely piqued the interest of the perennially low-budget Indians, but he’s looked more like a serviceable middle reliever than a potential high-leverage option in Cleveland. Over parts of three seasons with the Indians, Cimber has a 4.30 ERA with just 5.4 K/9 against 2.9 BB/9. He’d he been arbitration-eligible as a Super Two player this winter.
      Humphreys, 24, has yet to make his big league debut but had a big 2017 season across two Class-A levels in the Mets organization before requiring Tommy John surgery. He allowed just two runs in 13 innings of Rookie ball in 2019 as he rehabbed from that surgery and likely would’ve been ticketed for a Double-A assignment in 2020 had their been a minor league season. The Giants acquired him in the trade that sent Billy Hamilton to Queens and likely hoped to sneak him through waivers, but he’ll instead give Cleveland an interesting depth piece. In 169 2/3 professional innings, Humphreys has a 2.60 ERA and a 177-to-30 K/BB ratio.
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      • BigSpoon
        SBR MVP
        • 11-04-10
        • 4113

        #3748
        Happy Thanksgiving to the US posters here today.
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        • Cross
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 04-15-11
          • 5777

          #3749
          Happy Turducken Day, grateful for our baseball chatter!
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 65387

            #3750
            Happy Turkey Day all.
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            • JMobile
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-21-10
              • 19074

              #3751
              Originally posted by Cross
              Can’t teach stupid, Arozarena a good baseball player doesn’t make him good at life.
              Looks like no charges
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              • Cross
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 04-15-11
                • 5777

                #3752
                Any good trades going down this off season? I’m hoping for some action to wake me up.
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                • BigSpoon
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-04-10
                  • 4113

                  #3753
                  Originally posted by JMobile
                  Looks like no charges
                  What happens in Mexico, stays in Mexico.
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                  • jrgum3
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-21-17
                    • 7005

                    #3754
                    Hope you all had a Happy Turkey Day fellas!
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                    • EmpireMaker
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-18-09
                      • 15575

                      #3755
                      The Blue Jays’ long list of free agent targets has extended to the bullpen market, as MLB Network’s Jon Morosi tweets that Toronto was recently in touch with left-hander Brad Hand. The former All-Star entered free agency after the Indians declined their $10MM club option on Hand’s services.
                      Hand was placed on waivers by the Tribe prior to that declined option, as Cleveland was looking to save paying Hand a $1MM buyout by exposing him to any team willing to make a claim. All 29 teams (including Toronto) passed on Hand at the time, which is possibly indicative of how clubs are viewing spending on relief pitching this winter. In an offseason where more or less every team will be dealing with payroll limitations, a $10MM average annual value even for an established star reliever like Hand could be a reach.
                      The Jays are thought to have more spending capacity than most teams this winter, however, which is part of the reason they have been so quick to explore so many of the top names available. While they might not have been comfortable claiming Hand back in October, the Blue Jays would certainly seem to have a fit for Hand at the back of their bullpen. With Ken Giles being out for much of the 2020 season, six different pitchers recorded saves for the Jays last year — Anthony Bass led the way with seven saves, but Bass is now a free agent himself.
                      Rafael Dolis and Jordan Romano represent a pair of intriguing in-house closer candidates, so as Morosi notes, signing an established closer like Hand may be more of a need than a want for Toronto. That said, there is certainly value in being able to roll out multiple strong relievers, especially for a Jays team that has a few questions marks within its starting rotation.

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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65387

                        #3756
                        Why wouldn’t Cleveland want Hand?
                        Clearly they want to blow that team up like the Marlins did a few years ago.
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                        • batt33
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 12-23-16
                          • 5999

                          #3757
                          six years after a hard push for Jon Lester that ultimately fell just short, the Giants are interested in adding the veteran left-hander to their rotation, little to late for me.....
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                          • stevenash
                            Moderator
                            • 01-17-11
                            • 65387

                            #3758
                            Originally posted by batt33
                            six years after a hard push for Jon Lester that ultimately fell just short, the Giants are interested in adding the veteran left-hander to their rotation, little to late for me.....
                            They can always sign Hand and convert him into a starter.
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                            • Chi_archie
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-22-08
                              • 63165

                              #3759
                              Originally posted by batt33
                              six years after a hard push for Jon Lester that ultimately fell just short, the Giants are interested in adding the veteran left-hander to their rotation, little to late for me.....

                              yeah I don't think there is too much left there

                              just an accessory add now
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                              • JMobile
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 08-21-10
                                • 19074

                                #3760
                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                Why wouldn’t Cleveland want Hand?
                                Clearly they want to blow that team up like the Marlins did a few years ago.
                                Hand is not that great anymore.
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                                • jrgum3
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 07-21-17
                                  • 7005

                                  #3761
                                  Originally posted by batt33
                                  six years after a hard push for Jon Lester that ultimately fell just short, the Giants are interested in adding the veteran left-hander to their rotation, little to late for me.....
                                  Hopefully they don't pick him up I think he was done 3 years ago. If they do add him its just to add some veteran leadership to the staff but I'd rather they spend money on other more intriguing pickups.
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                                  • EmpireMaker
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 06-18-09
                                    • 15575

                                    #3762
                                    The Brewers eked out a postseason berth in 2020 by virtue of this year’s expanded format, laying claim to the No. 8 seed in the National League despite finishing with a sub-.500 record (29-31). They’re headed back into the offseason with plenty of holes to fill thanks to last year’s slate of one-year pickups, but the infield in particular is rife with uncertainty.
                                    In Keston Hiura, Luis Urias and Orlando Arcia, the Brew Crew has some options up the middle, but the infield corners are far less certain. That reality is all the more clear after president of baseball operations David Stearns acknowledged the deficiency in an interview with The Athletic’s Will Sammon this week when discussing the work that lies ahead between now and Spring Training.
                                    “I think what is clear is our production at first base and third base has to improve,” Stearns tells Sammon. “That, we know. Whether that can come from internal sources or external sources are some of the questions we’re continuing to talk through, evaluate and then determine the best course of action.”
                                    While Stearns’ comment about a need for improvement is of course accurate, it also in many ways largely undersells how dire the situation is. Milwaukee third basemen combined for an abysmal .200/.279/.295 in 2020, which translated to an MLB-worst 56 wRC+ at the position.
                                    Things were better across the diamond, where Milwaukee first basemen batted .229/.303/.467 — good for a 101 wRC+ that ranked 17th in the Majors. However, the bulk of that production came from Jedd Gyorko, whose option was bought out at season’s end. Daniel Vogelbach was red-hot in his short time with the Brewers to end the season, but he only logged eight plate appearances as a first baseman. He could be in line for more of a look at first in 2021, but it’s not guaranteed that he’ll be tendered a contract. Vogelbach is arbitraiton-eligible and struggled enormously from the All-Star break in 2019 up until his acquisition by the Brewers. He’s more of a designated hitter than a first baseman, and the lack of clarity regarding the universal DH could lead to a non-tender.
                                    There are plenty of external options to explore at the infield corners, although Sammon reports that the Brewers’ payroll — like the payroll of most clubs around the league — is expected to decline in 2021. The Brewers’ 2020 payroll was set to open at just shy of $98MM before the season was halted and salaries were pro-rated. They currently have about $47.5MM in guaranteed contracts plus a big slate of arbitration players who could approach roughly $26MM in salary. Several of those names are non-tender candidates, which could give Stearns & Co. some breathing room as they search for upgrades.
                                    Trades for high-profile infielders like Kris Bryant, Nolan Arenado and Francisco Lindor can be ruled out due to the salary associated with those players. Free agents Justin Turner and DJ LeMahieu, similarly, are likely to be too expensive. But the market does have some intriguing bounceback options, with Jake Lamb and Carlos Santana among the veterans eyeing rebounds. Trade possibilities are numerous, of course, and the Brewers will see a whole new set of possible candidates join the field next week after Wednesday’s non-tender deadline. They’ll also have a firmer grasp on what they can afford to spend at that point.
                                    One player sure to be immune from that non-tender fate is lefty Josh Hader, whose name has again popped up on the rumor circuit. Despite Stearns’ prior assertion that he doesn’t envision trading Hader, Fansided’s Robert Murray reported recently that Milwaukee is “open” to such a move. That’s a far cry from shopping Hader, of course, and Stearns again sought to downplay the possibility while instead characterizing any listening on Hader more as due diligence. The Brewers, per Stearns are in a “very similar position” with Hader as they were after the trade deadline when he initially made those comments.
                                    “Josh remains a very large contributor to our team and he has since he got here,” Stearns says. “I don’t really anticipate that changing. And when you have really good players, you’re going to get calls on them. And I don’t anticipate that changing, either.”
                                    Stearns, like many of today’s presidents and general managers, seems to prefer not to operate in absolutes, so it’s only natural that he’ll continue listening should teams continue to try to blow the Brewers away with an offer. And this time next year or even at the 2021 trade deadline, the situation may be different.
                                    If Hader keeps piling up strikeouts and saves, the arbitration process will keep ballooning his salary. He’s projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn $5.1MM in 2021, and barring a long-term deal, that number could quickly rise beyond Milwaukee’s comfort level. If the Brewers are well out of the race next summer or carry Hader into the offseason, it might become more realistic to see a low-payroll club more aggressively solicit offers. That’s not to say that a trade this winter is wholly off the table, but at least for the time being, he appears affordable enough that Milwaukee can enjoy the benefit of a Hader/Devin Williams combo late in games to help slam the door in close contests.
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                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 03-11-11
                                      • 29243

                                      #3763
                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                      Why wouldn’t Cleveland want Hand?
                                      Clearly they want to blow that team up like the Marlins did a few years ago.
                                      $10 million/per is too much for an effective lefty reliver these days I guess.

                                      I'd like to see a reunion in San Diego, we could use him in the bullpen.
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                                      • Otters27
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 07-14-07
                                        • 30749

                                        #3764
                                        Originally posted by batt33
                                        six years after a hard push for Jon Lester that ultimately fell just short, the Giants are interested in adding the veteran left-hander to their rotation, little to late for me.....
                                        Really hard to believe in Lester. Got to give the guy credit for a great comback
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65387

                                          #3765
                                          Originally posted by JMobile
                                          Hand is not that great anymore.
                                          You did not watch much Indians baseball last season did you?

                                          He walked four in 23 games.
                                          Did not allow a home run all season.
                                          Saved 16 games. Blew 0 saves.
                                          Had a WH/IP of 0.77
                                          Struck out 12 batters per nine innings.
                                          And on and on.....

                                          Yeah, he's a pile of shit.
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                                          • Cross
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 04-15-11
                                            • 5777

                                            #3766
                                            Indians just aren’t willing to pay for anything. Sad, but very cheap, and pandemic making them even cheaper.
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                                            • BigSpoon
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-04-10
                                              • 4113

                                              #3767
                                              Originally posted by stevenash
                                              You did not watch much Indians baseball last season did you?

                                              He walked four in 23 games.
                                              Did not allow a home run all season.
                                              Saved 16 games. Blew 0 saves.
                                              Had a WH/IP of 0.77
                                              Struck out 12 batters per nine innings.
                                              And on and on.....

                                              Yeah, he's a pile of shit.
                                              JM only follows the Dodgers Nasher.
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                                              • Otters27
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 07-14-07
                                                • 30749

                                                #3768
                                                What's your favorite defensive position.

                                                Me personally love watching the great shortstops
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                                                • jrgum3
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-21-17
                                                  • 7005

                                                  #3769
                                                  Originally posted by Otters27
                                                  What's your favorite defensive position.

                                                  Me personally love watching the great shortstops
                                                  Catcher and Center Field. You have to be strong defensively up the middle of the diamond so I basically like watching great defensive catchers, middle infielders and the center fielder.
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                                                  • Cross
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 04-15-11
                                                    • 5777

                                                    #3770
                                                    Definitely love watching shortstops the most, but television doesn’t do justice to outfielders. When you are at a game, watching the gazelles in the outfield cover ground so effortlessly is very cool.
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                                                    • stevenash
                                                      Moderator
                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                      • 65387

                                                      #3771
                                                      Originally posted by jrgum3
                                                      Catcher and Center Field. You have to be strong defensively up the middle of the diamond so I basically like watching great defensive catchers, middle infielders and the center fielder.
                                                      Been saying this for years.
                                                      A good up the middle makes a decent pitcher good, and a good pitcher great.
                                                      Perfect example is the 1984 Tigers.
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                                                      • EmpireMaker
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 06-18-09
                                                        • 15575

                                                        #3772
                                                        George Springer is one of the most prominent of the many free agents the Blue Jays are reportedly exploring this offseason, though the Jays’ initial interest in Springer seems to be developing. According to Sportsnet.ca’s Shi Davidi, the Jays have “progressed beyond just talking” with Springer, which would seem to indicate that Toronto has issued at least one offer to the former World Series MVP.
                                                        Such a step doesn’t necessarily indicate that a deal could be close, or even that Springer is the Blue Jays’ top free agent target. However, the Jays already made one early signing in bringing Robbie Ray back to the club on a one-year contract, and the wide net Toronto is seemingly casting over so many free agents could indicate that the Blue Jays are looking to strike while many other teams are still figuring out their payrolls or (along those same lines) planning to wait to make moves later in the offseason in order to find bargains. Davidi opines that the Jays first seem to be looking at position players in order to “nail down their lineup adds, figure out what’s staying, and then trade to get pitching help.”
                                                        From Springer’s perspective, there are pros and cons to signing early (with the Jays or any other team). Signing a deal now would allow him to avoid any prolonged uncertainty on the open market and allow him to entirely focus on the 2021 season with his new team. If the Blue Jays are one of relatively few teams who reportedly have money to spend this winter, signing would ensure that Springer can get top dollar rather than see Toronto spend its payroll on other players and then leaving Springer short a major suitor.
                                                        On the other hand, while the expected free agent crunch should impact players in the middle and lower tiers of the market, Springer and the other top-tier free agent names can safely assume they’ll still find an appropriately big payday. MLBTR ranked Springer third on our list of the offseason’s top 50 free agents and projected a hefty five-year, $125MM deal for the outfielder, even as he enters his age-31 season. As such, Springer faces no real rush to sign immediately since he knows a big contract awaits somewhere.
                                                        Springer might also want to wait for his market to fully reveal itself, once more teams do get their budgets finalized and more offers emerge. For instance, the Mets don’t seem to be fully diving into offseason moves until they figure out their front office situation, and loom as a potential bidder for just about anyone. “While the Blue Jays may be willing to set the market, agents will probably want to wait for the Mets to drop the gauntlet,” Davidi writes.
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                                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-11-11
                                                          • 29243

                                                          #3773
                                                          Originally posted by Cross
                                                          Indians just aren’t willing to pay for anything. Sad, but very cheap, and pandemic making them even cheaper.
                                                          There really should be a salary floor in MLB. If you do not want to competitively spend, kick rocks and sell the team to someone that will.
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65387

                                                            #3774
                                                            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                            There really should be a salary floor in MLB. If you do not want to competitively spend, kick rocks and sell the team to someone that will.
                                                            Like my KC Royals.
                                                            They won in 2014-2015 in spite of Mr. Glass.

                                                            At least John Sherman will spend money now.
                                                            Patrick Mahomes bought a piece of the Royals, he seems to think it's a good investment too.
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                                                            • JMobile
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-21-10
                                                              • 19074

                                                              #3775
                                                              Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                              JM only follows the Dodgers Nasher.
                                                              Nasher knows this.

                                                              Looks like other teams besides Dodgers are interested in Snell
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                                                              • EmpireMaker
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 06-18-09
                                                                • 15575

                                                                #3776
                                                                • The Dodgers have been speculated upon as a potential candidate to acquire Rockies third baseman Nolan Arenado this offseason. However, the potential roadblocks to such a deal are “monumental,” notes Buster Olney of ESPN, who feels they may be “impossible to overcome.” Indeed, MLBTR’s Steve Adams detailed the challenges of any deal involving Arenado coming together in an overview of his potential trade market. Arenado’s lofty contract could be an even bigger impediment than normal in the wake of teams’ revenue losses in 2020. The 29-year-old star had a down season offensively, and it’s anyone’s guess whether the Rockies would consider moving Arenado to a division rival.
                                                                • Mike Yastrzemski garnered some down ballot NL MVP support this past season thanks to a stellar .297/.400/.568 slash line. He has been fantastic offensively since the Giants acquired him with little fanfare from the Orioles entering the 2019 season. Not surprisingly, Yastrzemski would like to stay in San Francisco long-term, he said earlier this week (via Jessica Kleinschmidt of NBC Sports Bay Area). It’s not clear the Giants would have much urgency to work out an extension, though. Fantastic production notwithstanding, Yastrzemski’s already 30 and controllable through 2025. He’ll make just north of the league minimum in 2021 but stands a good chance at reaching arbitration-eligibility as a Super Two player next offseason.
                                                                • What free agents might the Nationals pursue this offseason? Britt Ghiroli of the Athletic examines potential targets, with infield and pitching help the most likely areas for an upgrade. A Trevor Bauer addition probably isn’t in the cards, Ghiroli feels, but the top position players on the market could be a possibility. Also still on the table, per Ghiroli: a reunion with free agent reliever Sean Doolittle. The 34-year-old southpaw was generally excellent over his time in Washington but endured a miserable 2020 season.
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                                                                • jrgum3
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 07-21-17
                                                                  • 7005

                                                                  #3777
                                                                  Originally posted by EmpireMaker
                                                                  • The Dodgers have been speculated upon as a potential candidate to acquire Rockies third baseman Nolan Arenado this offseason. However, the potential roadblocks to such a deal are “monumental,” notes Buster Olney of ESPN, who feels they may be “impossible to overcome.” Indeed, MLBTR’s Steve Adams detailed the challenges of any deal involving Arenado coming together in an overview of his potential trade market. Arenado’s lofty contract could be an even bigger impediment than normal in the wake of teams’ revenue losses in 2020. The 29-year-old star had a down season offensively, and it’s anyone’s guess whether the Rockies would consider moving Arenado to a division rival.
                                                                  • Mike Yastrzemski garnered some down ballot NL MVP support this past season thanks to a stellar .297/.400/.568 slash line. He has been fantastic offensively since the Giants acquired him with little fanfare from the Orioles entering the 2019 season. Not surprisingly, Yastrzemski would like to stay in San Francisco long-term, he said earlier this week (via Jessica Kleinschmidt of NBC Sports Bay Area). It’s not clear the Giants would have much urgency to work out an extension, though. Fantastic production notwithstanding, Yastrzemski’s already 30 and controllable through 2025. He’ll make just north of the league minimum in 2021 but stands a good chance at reaching arbitration-eligibility as a Super Two player next offseason.
                                                                  • What free agents might the Nationals pursue this offseason? Britt Ghiroli of the Athletic examines potential targets, with infield and pitching help the most likely areas for an upgrade. A Trevor Bauer addition probably isn’t in the cards, Ghiroli feels, but the top position players on the market could be a possibility. Also still on the table, per Ghiroli: a reunion with free agent reliever Sean Doolittle. The 34-year-old southpaw was generally excellent over his time in Washington but endured a miserable 2020 season.
                                                                  The Giants have many pressing needs but I'd like to see them hang onto Yaz. He's been fun to watch since coming over from the Orioles.
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                                                                  • stevenash
                                                                    Moderator
                                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                                    • 65387

                                                                    #3778
                                                                    Here you go Jake.


                                                                    Craig Stammen discusses his optimism for next season and the Padres' strong squad
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                                                                    • JMobile
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-21-10
                                                                      • 19074

                                                                      #3779
                                                                      Anybody think Turner will resign with the Dodgers?
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                                                                      • batt33
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 12-23-16
                                                                        • 5999

                                                                        #3780
                                                                        Originally posted by jrgum3
                                                                        The Giants have many pressing needs but I'd like to see them hang onto Yaz. He's been fun to watch since coming over from the Orioles.
                                                                        one of the few bright spots they have.
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