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  • JAKEPEAVY21
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    • 03-11-11
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    #3606
    Originally posted by EmpireMaker
    NOVEMBER 12: In yet further good news, Mancini says that he remains cancer-free two months after wrapping up his chemotherapy regimen. As MLB.com’s Joe Trezza was among those to report, Mancini made clear that he intends to be ready to play on Opening Day in 2021.
    We’ll all be rooting for continued progress for the outfielder, who says he’s well enough that all of his “attention is turned back toward baseball.” When last he played competitively, in the 2019 season, Mancini ripped 35 home runs and turned in a .291/.364/.535 batting line over 679 plate appearances.
    NOVEMBER 6: Orioles slugger Trey Mancini posted a video on Instagram of himself taking swings in a batting cage Wednesday, as noted by Joe Trezza of MLB.com. He’s been hitting been since mid-October, Mancini told Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com.
    The 28-year-old missed the entire 2020 season after being diagnosed with a malignant tumor in his colon in March. Eight months later, it seems he’s thankfully on track for a more-or-less normal offseason. “I’ve been doing full workouts and everything. I’m not really taking it easier, I’m just making sure I’m taking long enough breaks and things like that. But I’m full tilt, doing normal workouts,” Mancini said (via Kubtako). He went on to note that getting his mechanics back as a hitter clicked pretty quickly, comparing it to riding a bike.
    The Orioles have long expected Mancini to return to the team in 2021, but it’s doubtless still welcome news his recovery is progressing smoothly. In addition to being one of Baltimore’s best players, the well-respected Mancini should be a boon to the O’s young clubhouse. “I’m not even lying when I say this: If spring training started today, I’d be good to go,” Mancini stated.
    Good news about Mancini...hopefully the cancer doesn't return.
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    • Otters27
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      • 07-14-07
      • 30750

      #3607
      Originally posted by jrgum3
      Shane Bieber definitely earned the AL Cy Young this season. He was downright nasty all year and a very deserving winner.
      Good for him. Not really a Trevor Bauer fan though
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      • koz-man
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-21-08
        • 7102

        #3608
        Originally posted by jrgum3
        MLB.com said the Cardinals are a possible match for Springer since they need to shore up their Outfield. Like I said someone will pay good money for Springer even though he was on a team that cheated.
        I hope not. Keep in the AL or at least out of the NL Central. (except Reds of course)
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65450

          #3609
          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
          Good news about Mancini...hopefully the cancer doesn't return.
          Yeah, he's one of the few bright spots in Baltimore.
          They need him, his family probably needs him more too.
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          • stevenash
            Moderator
            • 01-17-11
            • 65450

            #3610
            Realmuto to NYM now is a strong rumor.

            It'll be either Phil, MYM, or NYY.
            He stays in the NL East or NYY.
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            • BigSpoon
              SBR MVP
              • 11-04-10
              • 4113

              #3611
              As expected, Bauer, Realmuto, Springer and LeMathieu all rejected the QO. Stroman and Gausman accepted.
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              • JMobile
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-21-10
                • 19074

                #3612
                Originally posted by stevenash
                Realmuto to NYM now is a strong rumor.

                It'll be either Phil, MYM, or NYY.
                He stays in the NL East or NYY.
                Muto didn't wow me this year
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                • batt33
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 12-23-16
                  • 6014

                  #3613
                  Originally posted by BigSpoon
                  As expected, Bauer, Realmuto, Springer and LeMathieu all rejected the QO. Stroman and Gausman accepted.
                  Wonder what kind of deal bauer is wanting
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                  • jrgum3
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 07-21-17
                    • 7005

                    #3614
                    Originally posted by JMobile
                    Muto didn't wow me this year
                    He's still the best Catcher in baseball and will get paid big money because of it.
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                    • EmpireMaker
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 06-18-09
                      • 15578

                      #3615
                      The Padres are working toward a two-year contract with right-hander Mike Clevinger, reports Fansided’s Robert Murray (via Twitter). A two-year pact would buy out Clevinger’s remaining two years of arbitration, creating cost certainty for the Friars and granting some extra financial security for the pitcher himself. It would not, however, provide the Padres with any additional club control over Clevinger, who is currently on track to reach free agency after the 2022 campaign.
                      It’s sensible for both the Padres and Clevinger, who’ll turn 30 next month, to proactively look to avoid the arbitration process entirely. Arbitration figures to be messier than ever this offseason in the wake of the league’s broad-reaching revenue losses, so it behooves San Diego to get some cost certainty — particularly if doing so allows them to backload Clevinger’s salary. For Clevinger himself, he’ll avoid a potentially contentious process and lock in not only his 2021 salary but his 2022 contract on the heels of a season that ended with elbow concerns.
                      Clevinger earned $4.1MM in 2020, and using MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz’s 37-percent projection method, he’d land at a $4.8MM salary in 2021. That’s obviously a rather modest bump, and the uncertainties surrounding this year’s arbitration process in general inherently create a fairly broad range of variance. Still, a two-year deal figures to check in south of $20MM, given that Clevinger’s second- and third-time arbitration salaries would have only been a fraction of his open-market value, as is typically the case with arb numbers.
                      The 2020 season saw Clevinger again pitch at a very high level, as he worked 41 2/3 frames of 3.02 ERA ball with a 40-to-14 K/BB ratio. He struggled with his control a bit early on but righted the ship with the Padres, issuing just three walks in 19 regular-season innings following the blockbuster trade that shipped him from Cleveland to San Diego. Clevinger came under fire early in the season not only breaking Covid-19 protocols but traveling with the Indians after doing so. Cleveland learned of his infraction after the fact and subsequently optioned him to their alternate training site; Clevinger was traded not long after, although the organization denied that his rule violations played a role in driving the move.
                      Whatever the motivation, the Padres stand to benefit in the years to come. Clevinger joins Dinelson Lamet as a front-of-the-rotation arm at Petco Park, and the Padres have a wealth of other pitching talent on hand as well. Chris Paddack struggled in 2020 but was dominant as a rookie a year prior. Zach Davies enjoyed a breakout year this season following a trade from the Brewers. Top prospect Luis Patino made his big league debut in 2020, and the even more ballyhooed MacKenzie Gore should do so in 2021. Lefty Adrian Morejon gives San Diego yet another intriguing, high-upside option.
                      All told, it’s a both enviable and inexpensive crop of arms that give the Padres considerable long-term depth and upside. The Padres have some high-priced players on the position side of things — Manny Machado, Eric Hosmer and Wil Myers — and will likely explore a long-term deal for Fernando Tatis Jr. at some point. Nailing down Clevinger’s price helps the front office and ownership alike get a better sense of the budget for that and other moves over the next two years.
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                      • JAKEPEAVY21
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                        • 03-11-11
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                        #3616
                        Originally posted by Otters27
                        Good for him. Not really a Trevor Bauer fan though
                        I never used to like Bauer, but he has grown on me. He's a very smart guy and I respect the fact that he marches to the beat of his own drummer and is not scared to voice his opinions.
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                        • Chi_archie
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-22-08
                          • 63165

                          #3617
                          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                          I never used to like Bauer, but he has grown on me. He's a very smart guy and I respect the fact that he marches to the beat of his own drummer and is not scared to voice his opinions.

                          I feel the same

                          he's grown on me
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                          • Otters27
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                            • 07-14-07
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                            #3618
                            Ok. I admit that was cool when Bauer threw the ball over Center Field fence
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                            • stevenash
                              Moderator
                              • 01-17-11
                              • 65450

                              #3619
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              I never used to like Bauer, but he has grown on me. He's a very smart guy and I respect the fact that he marches to the beat of his own drummer and is not scared to voice his opinions.
                              Same here.
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                              • koz-man
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-21-08
                                • 7102

                                #3620
                                Originally posted by Otters27
                                Ok. I admit that was cool when Bauer threw the ball over Center Field fence
                                or the beer strike out...
                                Love him or hate him (and there isn't much in between when it comes to baseball fans, and former players) Cincinnati Reds pitcher Trevor Bauer can never
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                                • BigSpoon
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-04-10
                                  • 4113

                                  #3621
                                  Freeman the NL MVP, Abreu the AL MVP.
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                                  • Cross
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 04-15-11
                                    • 5777

                                    #3622
                                    Bauer was great obviously, but I think Darvish deserved it.
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                                    • JMobile
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-21-10
                                      • 19074

                                      #3623
                                      Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                      I never used to like Bauer, but he has grown on me. He's a very smart guy and I respect the fact that he marches to the beat of his own drummer and is not scared to voice his opinions.
                                      You think he will go to San Diego?
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                                      • EmpireMaker
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 06-18-09
                                        • 15578

                                        #3624
                                        The Yankees clinched another postseason berth in 2020 before falling short in the playoffs once again. They’re now facing offseason questions in their middle infield, at catcher and in their pitching staff. Those issues could be difficult to properly address if the club decides to tamp down its payroll, which seems likely.
                                        Guaranteed Contracts

                                        Arbitration-Eligible Players
                                        Note on arb-eligible players: this year’s arbitration projections are more volatile than ever, given the unprecedented revenue losses felt by clubs and the shortened 2020 schedule. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz, who developed our arbitration projection model, used three different methods to calculate different projection numbers. You can see the full projections and an explanation of each if you click here, but for the purposes of our Outlook series, we’ll be using Matt’s 37-percent method — extrapolating what degree of raise a player’s 2020 rate of play would have earned him in a full 162-game slate and then awarding him 37 percent of that raise.

                                        Option Decisions

                                        Free Agents

                                        As Joel Sherman of the New York Post detailed last month, it could be a relatively low-spending offseason for the Yankees if their goal is to get under the $210MM luxury-tax line in 2021. They may only add around $30MM to a payroll that is already in the $170MM range with guaranteed deals, arbitration raises and rookie contracts. That’s problematic for a team with a pair of high-end free agents and needs to address.
                                        The biggest possible departure for the Yankees would be DJ LeMahieu, who has been their premier player since they signed him to a two-year, $24MM contract before 2019. The move couldn’t have worked out better for the Yankees, with whom LeMahieu went from solid contributor to superstar. The 32-year-old is coming off a season in which he won a batting title, led the AL in wRC+ and finished third in MVP voting. Great timing for LeMahieu during a contract year, but it could price him out of the Yankees’ range.
                                        The Yankees did issue LeMahieu an $18.9MM qualifying offer at the beginning of the offseason, but he predictably rejected it. According to Sherman, they might be reluctant to do much better than a three-year, $48MM offer on a long-term pact, and it’s hard to believe he’d accept that. For what it’s worth, MLBTR predicts a four-year, $68MM accord, but it’s possible he’ll do even better than that.
                                        If LeMahieu does exit, where would that leave the Yankees? It’s hard to imagine them turning the reins over to the light-hitting Tyler Wade. Fortunately for the Yankees, they do have some flexibility in their middle infield because of the versatility of shortstop Gleyber Torres, who has also played extensively at second base.
                                        Should the team decide to leave Torres at short, it could pursue any number of Band-Aid free agents at the keystone, including Kolten Wong, Tommy La Stella, Jurickson Profar and Jonathan Schoop. Those aren’t especially exciting options on paper, though remember that LeMahieu didn’t look like the most thrilling addition when the Yankees brought him into the fold. Perhaps they’d be able to strike gold yet again on a somewhat understated pickup.
                                        Moving Torres back to second would also present some possibilities for the Yankees, as free agency features a few accomplished vets at short (old friend Didi Gregorius, Marcus Semien, Andrelton Simmons). Korea’s Ha-Seong Kim is going to be posted, so he could also pique the Yankees’ interest. And you can’t ignore the trade front, where the Indians’ Francisco Lindor is likely to wind up on the move. It’s also not unreasonable to think the Rockies could listen to offers for Trevor Story.
                                        While middle infield is the main concern in the Yankees’ position player group right now, catcher isn’t too far behind. Gary Sanchez won their starting job with an all-world performance in 2016 and has held it down since. There have been defensive miscues and up-and-down offense since then, though, and now the Yankees may elect to pull the plug on the Sanchez era. They’re reportedly willing to listen to offers for Sanchez, whom they could non-tender if they can’t find a trade partner. They’ve also shown interest in free-agent catcher Yadier Molina, which doesn’t seem to bode well for Sanchez. Molina would figure to start ahead of Kyle Higashioka.
                                        Molina’s aging, and his offense has declined of late, yet he’s still one of the top free agents at his position. J.T. Realmuto is No. 1 with a bullet, but whether the Yankees would dole out a $100MM-plus contract for him in their current situation looks iffy. They might not even be willing to go into the two- to three-year range for James McCann, the second-best backstop out there.
                                        Meanwhile, the rest of the Yankees’ lineup looks pretty well set. Torres will be back to play somewhere. First baseman Luke Voit has developed into a star slugger. Gio Urshela remained a highly productive starting third baseman in 2020. His presence could push out Miguel Andujar if the Yankees find an enticing enough trade offer. Right fielder Aaron Judge and designated hitter Giancarlo Stanton aren’t going anywhere, though the team will need healthier seasons from the hulking duo next year. Clint Frazier finally broke out in 2020 and now looks like the Yankees’ answer in left field, while Aaron Hicks has center locked up.
                                        There’s a question as to whether the club will bring back Yankees institution Brett Gardner as a reserve outfielder. New York bought out the 13-year veteran and saved $7.5MM in the process, but it could re-sign him for a lesser salary. If not, the Yankees might be content to plug in Mike Tauchman as their primary backup.
                                        Whether or not LeMahieu, Sanchez and Gardner return next year, the Yankees should still feature a strong offense. Their rotation may be another story, however. Gerrit Cole delivered in the first season of a record nine-year, $324MM contract, though the Yankees don’t really have any sure things after him.
                                        Of returning Yankees starters, Luis Severino has been an ace when healthy enough to pitch. The hope is he’ll get back to form next year, but he missed almost all of the previous two seasons because of serious arm injuries. Severino might not even be ready for Opening Day after undergoing Tommy John surgery in February. Domingo German sat out 2020 after a domestic violence suspension, though it appears the Yankees will pencil him in for some role next season. Jordan Montgomery is also an in-house front-runner for a starting job, but he had his struggles in 2020 after coming back from a TJ procedure. Otherwise, the Yankees have some younger hurlers they could turn to in Deivi Garcia, Michael King and Clarke Schmidt.
                                        For now, the Yankees’ starting depth looks as if it’s going to take a hit in free agency. Career-long Yankee Masahiro Tanaka is on the open market, as are JA Happ and James Paxton. Tanaka, who has long been effective in New York, seems the most likely of the three to re-sign. He’s not going to come at an exorbitant cost – certainly nothing like the seven-year, $155MM contract the Yankees originally gave him. Other free agents who should be affordably priced include Jake Odorizzi, Charlie Morton, Corey Kluber, ex-Yankees farmhand Jose Quintana, Garrett Richards and Adam Wainwright, to name some familiar names. And the Yankees could explore trades for one of their former pitchers, the Rangers’ Lance Lynn, or the Pirates’ Joe Musgrove.
                                        Considering the spending power the Yankees have typically shown off, perhaps you can’t rule them out for the No. 1 free agent available, NL Cy Young winner Trevor Bauer. Of course, that would require the franchise to hand out yet another massive financial guarantee. Notably, Bauer and Cole – who were teammates at UCLA – have not gotten along in the past. Bauer did, however, tell reporters this week that there is no feud with Cole (via Brendan Kuty of NJ Advance Media).
                                        “I have nothing wrong with Gerrit,” Bauer said. “We had our differences in college and that was nine or 10 years ago at this point. I’m a different person now than I was then. I’m sure the same is true for him.”
                                        Regardless of whether it’s Bauer or someone else, it seems probable the Yankees will sign or trade for at least one starter this winter. General manager Brian Cashman could also make an addition(s) to their bullpen, which wasn’t the lights-out unit the Yankees expected. They already retained Zack Britton, so he’ll be a key late-game piece again. Closer Aroldis Chapman isn’t leaving, while Chad Green, Jonathan Loaisiga and Luis Cessa should also be back. The Yankees would probably like to move on from the last year and $9MM of Adam Ottavino’s contract after a rough 2020, but it would be difficult to find a trade partner right now. If no team wanted Brad Hand for $10MM, why would anyone take on Ottavino at $9MM?
                                        Hand is now looking for a job – as are several other well-known relievers – but that depends on if the Yankees are interested in throwing money around on bullpen upgrades. They could at least take a fairly low-priced gamble on someone like Greg Holland, Kirby Yates, Jake McGee, Joakim Soria or ex-Yankees Mark Melancon and Shane Greene. The top of the market includes Hand, Liam Hendriks, Blake Treinen, Trevor May and Trevor Rosenthal. Let’s not forget that the Yankees pursued superb Brewers reliever Josh Hader last winter. Maybe they’ll circle back there this offseason, though Hader would cost a significant amount in a trade package.
                                        It was no surprise that the Yankees reeled in Cole, last year’s best free agent, an offseason ago. However, because of the economic issues the league is currently facing, this looks as if it will be a much less predictable offseason for the Yankees and just about every other team. If the Yankees actually are going to slash payroll, though, it could be a winter of discontent for their fans.
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                                        • Otters27
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                                          • 07-14-07
                                          • 30750

                                          #3625
                                          This MLB season was like high school baseball in the spring. If you can start out hot and keep it going you'd be able to be a league leader
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                                          • jrgum3
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 07-21-17
                                            • 7005

                                            #3626
                                            Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                            Freeman the NL MVP, Abreu the AL MVP.
                                            Good for Freddie Freeman to get the recognition he deserves. He has been one of the best players in baseball for a while now so I'm glad he won MVP finally.
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                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                              • 03-11-11
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                                              #3627
                                              Originally posted by Cross
                                              Bauer was great obviously, but I think Darvish deserved it.
                                              Of course you do. I think Dinelson Lamet deserved it!
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                                              • BigSpoon
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-04-10
                                                • 4113

                                                #3628
                                                Originally posted by jrgum3
                                                Good for Freddie Freeman to get the recognition he deserves. He has been one of the best players in baseball for a while now so I'm glad he won MVP finally.
                                                Freeman was great but I think Betts was better when you factor in his defense.
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                                                • Cross
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-15-11
                                                  • 5777

                                                  #3629
                                                  Don’t be ridiculous, Peavy, lol.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65450

                                                    #3630
                                                    Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                    Freeman was great but I think Betts was better when you factor in his defense.
                                                    And there were those who thought Mookie would be a failure in LA.
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                                                    • Cross
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 04-15-11
                                                      • 5777

                                                      #3631
                                                      Freeman has been underrated for a while.
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                                                      • Otters27
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                                                        • 07-14-07
                                                        • 30750

                                                        #3632
                                                        Originally posted by Cross
                                                        Freeman has been underrated for a while.
                                                        Natural Swung
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                                                        • jrgum3
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 07-21-17
                                                          • 7005

                                                          #3633
                                                          Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                          Freeman was great but I think Betts was better when you factor in his defense.
                                                          You can argue Betts all day long as well. He was a huge reason the Dodgers finally got over the hump and won that elusive World Series.
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                                                          • EmpireMaker
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 06-18-09
                                                            • 15578

                                                            #3634
                                                            Alex Wood was a target for the Nationals at the 2019 trade deadline, as Jesse Dougherty of the Washington Post reports that the Nats “nearly acquired” the southpaw, who was then a member of the Reds. The timing is interesting, as back injuries prevented Wood from making his 2019 debut until July 28, just three days prior to the deadline. While Wood ended up making seven starts for Cincinnati that season, it’s fair to assume that the Nationals may been considering him as a reliever (or a swingman) given the dire state of Washington’s bullpen at the time.
                                                            Needless to say, the Nats don’t regret how things turned out for them at the 2019 deadline, as July 31 acquisition Daniel Hudson played a critical role in Washington capturing the World Series. But with Wood now a free agent and the Nationals looking for some veteran pitching depth, GM Mike Rizzo could very well revisit the idea of adding the left-hander to the D.C. roster. Wood was again hampered by injuries in 2020, tossing only 12 2/3 innings for the Dodgers during the regular season and posting a 6.39 ERA. However, his campaign ended on the high note of a World Series ring and a 1.35 ERA (one run in 6 2/3 relief innings) in four postseason outings.
                                                            More from around the senior circuit…
                                                            • The Padres announced that longtime third base coach Glenn Hoffman is retiring from coaching for a new position as a senior advisor in San Diego’s baseball operations department. Hoffman has been a mainstay in the Padres’ third base box for the last 15 seasons, coming on the heels of seven seasons as the Dodgers’ third base coach (and a stint as the Dodgers’ interim manager in 1998, as Hoffman led the team to a 47-41 record). As per Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune, bench coach Bobby Dickerson seems to be the favorite to take over third base coaching duties.
                                                            • The Cubs will be looking for more pitching depth this winter, though Russell Dorsey of the Chicago Sun-Times writes that four rotation spots may be settled, to some extent. Yu Darvish and Kyle Hendricks are obviously entrenched atop the starting five, and president of baseball operations Theo Epstein sounds comfortable on Alec Mills and Adbert Alzolay taking up the next pair of rotation spots. There have been questions about Alzolay’s ability to stick in the rotation, but the Cubs were apparently impressed enough with the improvement of his slider to regard him as a starter. Youngsters Tyson Miller, Brailyn Marquez, and Justin Steele will get a shot at the fifth starter’s role, but Chicago is also looking outside the organization at the middle-to-bottom tier of free agent pitchers, depending on what the Cubs decide to do with the rest of their roster. Epstein has left open the possibility of bringing Jon Lester back on a short-term deal, but the Cubs are comfortable letting him test the market.
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                                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                              • 03-11-11
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                                                              #3635
                                                              Originally posted by Cross
                                                              Don’t be ridiculous, Peavy, lol.
                                                              Look at the numbers pal! Lamet got snubbed.
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                                                              • stevenash
                                                                Moderator
                                                                • 01-17-11
                                                                • 65450

                                                                #3636
                                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                Look at the numbers pal! Lamet got snubbed.
                                                                Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Dinelson Lamet. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com
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                                                                • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                  • 03-11-11
                                                                  • 29267

                                                                  #3637
                                                                  A lot of Padres got snubbed in season ending awards by either not winning or not being a finalist(Tatis, Cronenworth, Lamet and Tingler). I'm hoping they all use it as fuel during the offseason.
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                                                                  • BigSpoon
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-04-10
                                                                    • 4113

                                                                    #3638
                                                                    Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                                    Look at the numbers pal! Lamet got snubbed.
                                                                    NL Cy Young candidates very stacked in the 2020 shortened season. I don't think he was snubbed, he finished 4th behind Bauer, Darvish and deGrom.
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                      #3639
                                                                      Originally posted by BigSpoon
                                                                      NL Cy Young candidates very stacked in the 2020 shortened season. I don't think he was snubbed, he finished 4th behind Bauer, Darvish and deGrom.
                                                                      He should have been in the top 3 IMO.
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                                                                      • stevenash
                                                                        Moderator
                                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                                        • 65450

                                                                        #3640
                                                                        And Hosmer should have won 'quickest healer' award too. (again)
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