Originally posted by BigSpoon
Jayson Werth looking for another payday too.
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Originally posted by yisman
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With Shohei Ohtani’s trip to the open market approaching, the phenom’s agent sent a memo on Friday to all major league teams requesting written explanations in both English and Japanese on why they’d be the right fit for the right-handed ace/left-handed slugger, as the Associated Press first reported.
Ohtani’s lead representative, Nez Balelo of CAA Sports, told teams not to include financial terms of a potential contract in their answers. But with Ohtani’s Japanese organization, the Nippon Ham Fighters, primed to post him as early as Dec. 1, Balelo informed major league clubs that he’d like to receive their responses as soon as possible.
Here’s a rundown of the memo’s specifics, courtesy of Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times:
- “An evaluation of Shohei’s talent as a pitcher and/or a hitter;
- “Player development, medical, training and player performance philosophies and capabilities;
- “Major League, Minor League, and Spring Training facilities;
- “Resources for Shohei’s cultural assimilation;
- “A detailed plan for integrating Shohei into the organization;
- “Why the city and franchise are a desirable place to play;
- “Relevant marketplace characteristics.”
While nothing listed above is particularly surprising, it’s the first real look at the factors that will influence the ballyhooed Ohtani’s decision when he officially becomes free to sign with any major league team. Thanks to the rules in the collective bargaining agreement, the 23-year-old Ohtani will have to sign an inexpensive minor league contract this offseason, and the fact that there’s a fairly even financial playing field figures to lead to interest from every big league team. It’s worth noting, though, that the Rangers, Yankees, Twins, Pirates, Marlins and Mariners are entering the Ohtani sweepstakes in the most advantageous positions in terms of international bonus pool space.
Of those six clubs, the Rangers, Yankees and Mariners have had the most success reeling in Japanese stars in the past, which may help in their attempts to win the Ohtani sweepstakes, but this is setting up to be either a 30-team battle royale or something close to it. The major league franchise that outdoes the other 29 in courting Ohtani will have to pay a maximum $20MM posting fee to his Japanese team, though that’s a relative pittance to secure a potential two-way superstar who could dramatically alter an organization both on and off the field.Comment -
Originally posted by EmpireMaker
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Will be interesting to see who will let Ohtani be a two way playerComment -
Not sure if he'd be better off signing with an AL or NL team. He could DH or play OF a couple times in between starts in AL. In the NL he could play in OF in between starts and PH for the SP.Originally posted by Chi_archieComment -
I would think AL because of the DH, But not sure if he wants to play another position beside Pitch.Originally posted by BigSpoonComment -
Makes you wonder why MLB has never had a a SP who also plays a position.Comment -
The Braves lost their rights to 12 international prospects earlier this week as part of Major League Baseball’s punishment of the organization for signing violations, creating an unexpected influx of talent into the 2017-18 international signing market. Baseball America’s J.J. Cooper ranks the top eight prospects of that group, with Kevin Maitan still leading the way, even if his star has somewhat dimmed after a lackluster first season in the minors.
Some items from around the two East divisions…
- Jake Odorizzi and Alex Colome “have been popular in early [trade] conversations,” Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times writes. The two pitchers are perhaps the most likely members of the Rays’ 12-player arbitration class who will be dealt in order to cut costs, as MLBTR projects that dozen players to earn $40.4MM in 2018. Topkin figures that the Rays will be in heavy trade talks this week in order to move some of these names before Friday’s non-tender deadline. There’s also the specter of a total rebuild, which would come if Tampa decided to move a franchise cornerstone (i.e. Chris Archer, Evan Longoria, Kevin Kiermaier) this offseason. While the Rays will clearly shop the arbitration-eligible players first, Topkin wonders if the club would pounce if they got a great offer for one of Archer and company before any of the arb class had been moved. Previous reports have cited the Twins’ interest in both Odorizzi and Colome, while the Cardinals have been linked to Colome in their search for bullpen help.
- A case could be made that the Nationals should pursue a top-tier starting pitcher rather than just rotation depth this winter, though as the Washington Post’s Chelsea Janes outlines, the team could be gearing up for a bigger pitching addition next winter. The Nats will have over $50MM in salary coming off the books after the 2018 season, which could allow the club to sign or trade for a notable arm.
- Nine-year big league veteran Dave Bush has been working as a Red Sox pitching development analyst for the last year, as the Boston Herald’s Jason Mastrodonato details in this look at Bush’s duties within the organization. Bush sees his role as helping bridge the gap between the analytics department and young pitchers who may be being exposed to such information for the first time. “Baseball is not known for accepting change in a hasty manner. But I also think there’s also a benefit for someone like me, who has been a player,” Bush said. “I’m comfortable having that conversation. And it’s my responsibility to present information to them because I think it’s going to make them better.” Bush’s duties are part of president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski’s plan to overhaul how the Sox select and develop young pitchers, as the club has been notably short on homegrown arms over the last decade.
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lots of reasonsOriginally posted by Cross
Brooks Kieschnick did both pretty recentlyComment -
It's really tough to do one let alone both at the same time at the MLB level.Originally posted by CrossComment -
Source confirms Doug Fister has agreed to a one-year, $4 million contract, with a team option for 2019, with the Texas Rangers. The 34-year-old right-hander reestablished his value with the Red Sox this past season after signing a minor-league deal with the Angels and getting claimed off waivers in June. Fister posted a 2.79 ERA during a seven-start stretch in place of injured David Price and a 4.71 ERA in 15 starts overall.Comment -
Worth a shot with the cheap price .Originally posted by koz-manComment -
Some athlete should be able to do both, Kieshnick doesn't count since he wasn't a a stud pitcher or hitter.Comment -
Originally posted by Cross
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Rockies center fielder Charlie Blackmon has changed representation and is now a client of the ACES agency, reports ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick (Twitter link). The move comes at a crucial time for Blackmon, who is eligible for arbitration once more this winter before reaching free agency next winter.
Blackmon’s new reps’ first order of business will be to engage the Rockies in negotiations on his next contract. Odds are, the sides will focus first on avoiding arbitration. MLBTR predicts that Blackmon will nearly double his 2017 salary of $7.3MM, with the algorithms projecting a $13.4MM arb value.
Of course, the opportunity to chat might also lead to some exploration of a longer-term deal. Blackmon will turn 32 next summer, so he’s not as youthful as fellow mid-arb star Nolan Arenado. And the Rockies do have a variety of players under contract into the future that might help make up for his theoretical loss in free agency. Still, it will be tempting to see what it might cost to keep Blackmon’s bat at the top of the lineup into the future.
If the sides can’t work out an extension, Blackmon figures to hit the open market in 2018 as one of the premier free agents available. While his age will tamp down his earning power, few free agents will be able to match his recent track record of productivity, barring a collapse in the season to come. Indeed, the veteran has taken his game to a new level in 2016-17. A two-time All-Star, Blackmon was a solid bat with some power and speed through the first few years of his career, but he won an NL Batting Title in 2017 and has turned in an overall .327/.390/.578 line with 66 homers and 31 steals over the past two seasons.
That’s enough output with the stick to make Blackmon a significant asset even if he eventually moves over to a corner spot. Just how much his future is worth, though, is a complicated topic of its own. If he and the team do sit down at some point, it isn’t tough to imagine the Rockies being willing to promise another three years and Blackmon’s reps seeking five, with the sides also sure to haggle over the annual value of the deal. It will be interesting to watch and see whether accommodation can be reached at some point over the coming months.Comment -
there are a few that could do it. but if an MLB team has an MLB pitcher commidity that is something you protect. you go through so many pitchers on a roster every year as it is. If you have a good one, you don't risk him getting hurt or not having his arm recover properly by playing him alot on his off days.Originally posted by BigSpoon
the other part of it is
it takes alot of good MLB players 3-6 years of development in the minors after a lifetime of amateur playing. neither the player or an MLB team is going to take 3-6 years and risk not developing ONE of the talents of the player to get to the show.
there are hundreds of examples of a player not making it as a pitcher or position player and deciding to switch to the other after a few failing years in the minors.
But if i'm a player, i'm not risking 3-5 years of riding buses trying to become both a hitter and a pitcher that will get an MLB payday and end up just a AA or AAA player at both positions.
i'm looking around and realizing that 95% of the players around me aren't ever gonna sniff the majors, so I better focus on my best shot to get there.Comment -
Archie knows what's up and is on fire at SBR trivia.Originally posted by Chi_archie
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The Cubs issued 68 full postseason shares after making in to the NLCS last season, each worth $133,159.02. It was the most full shares issued of any playoff team. They also issued 7.5 partial shares and six cash awards. The Cubs gave out 66 full shares after winning the World Series in 2016, tied for most in baseball that season.Comment -
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In his latest Astros inbox, MLB.com’s Brian McTaggart explores a number of topics pertaining to Houston’s 2018 roster and their current offseason plans. McTaggart suggests that left-handed relief will be a top priority for the ’Stros this winter and that Jake Marisnick will return for the 2018 season as the team’s primary fourth outfielder even with Derek Fisher also in the picture. McTaggart fields multiple questions on a loaded Astros rotation that will be anchored by Justin Verlander, Dallas Keuchel, Lance McCullers and Charlie Morton, leaving just one spot for Collin McHugh, Brad Peacock, Mike Fiers, Joe Musgrove and Francis Martes. Of the bunch, he suggests that Peacock and McHugh could both see time in the fifth spot, while Musgrove could be shifted to a more permanent ’pen role and Martes could return to Triple-A to continue developing as a starter.
More on the Astros and the division…
- With Evan Gattis projected to earn $6.6MM in 2017 and reported interest from the Astros in Jonathan Lucroy, McTaggart also notes within that inbox column that Houston could either non-tender Gattis or try to trade him in advance of Friday’s 8pm ET non-tender deadline. Gattis posted a quality .263/.311/.457 slash in 325 PAs this season but also threw out just four of 39 potential base thieves this season (though he was 13-for-28 in that regard in 2016). With few obvious areas for an upgrade, Houston could conceivably look to add a more significant bat at DH and pursue a backup catching option that is cheaper and/or comes with a better defensive reputation. MLBTR listed Gattis as a potential non-tender candidate this week.
- Now that the Rangers have signed righty Doug Fister, they’re likely to turn their focus to the bullpen for the time being, tweets MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan. That’s not to say Texas is through adding to its rotation, but Jon Daniels and his staff will certainly want to see how the Shohei Ohtani sweepstakes plays out before determining their next move on the rotation front. In a separate column, Sullivan reports that the Rangers have submitted their response to agent Nez Balelo’s seven-point memo requesting information to help Ohtani make his decision. Daniels tells Sullivan that the Rangers have been following Ohtani for years and awaiting this opportunity, adding that he “feels strongly” about what the Rangers organization has to offer the 23-year-old star. If Texas is ultimately able to add Ohtani, it stands to reason that the team might then choose to spend more aggressively on a non-rotation need. Speculating further, if Ohtani lands elsewhere, that could conceivably cause Texas to more aggressively pursue a big-name rotation upgrade.
- The elbow strain that ended the season of Angels right-hander J.C. Ramirez was a small tear in his ulnar collateral ligament, writes Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register, but Ramirez received positive news on that front this week. Ramirez has already undergone stem cell treatment, and a series of ultrasound exams has left doctors confident that he can avoid surgery. He’ll do some light throwing next week, in fact, and GM Billy Eppler called the recent test results “one of the more positive” outcomes the team could’ve had.
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Originally posted by koz-man
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Mets and Astros among teams that checked on lefty Mike Minor, who had a strong 2017 season. He'll be among first free agents to come off the board, and evaluators expect he will do very well, as arguably the top LH relief option.Comment -
Definitely the AL. More flexibility with the DH.Originally posted by BigSpoonComment -
Cubs post season shares so ridiculous, what did Astros give out?Comment -
We heard somewhat varied reports yesterday on whether there was any real connection between the Red Sox and Marlins on Giancarlo Stanton. Today, there’s clear indication that the sides aren’t firmly engaged on the slugger: per Sean McAdam of the Boston Sports Journal (subscription link), the teams have not engaged on the matter since the GM Meetings. It certainly sounds as if Boston is not actively pursuing Stanton, though it’s always possible that could change if his market continues to drag — which remains a distinct possibility. MLB.com’s Jon Morosi tweets that the Marlins haven’t set any sort of deadline for teams to submit their best offers, so perhaps Boston could reengage if their reported talks for White Sox star Jose Abreu do not prove fruitful.
Here’s more chatter on the trade and free agent markets:
- It seems the Rays are at least entertaining the possibility of dealing closer Alex Colome, per Morosi (Twitter link), with “active discussions” said to be ongoing with multiple rival organizations. The Cardinals have “sustained interest” in Colome — a connection we first heard about two weeks back. Colome’s less-than-dominant 2017 campaign has likely cabined his trade value somewhat, though teams will still no doubt see significant value in the hard-throwing, high-leverage reliever. MLBTR projects that Colome will earn $5.5MM in his first of three potential trips through arbitration.
- The Astros can now be added to the list of teams with some interest in Mike Minor, according to a report from ESPN.com’s Buster Olney (Twitter link). Jake Kaplan of the Houston Chronicle previously explained that the southpaw would make for an interesting target for the ’Stros; we have also heard of prior interest from the Mets, who Olney also names. There’ll likely be quite a few other teams poking around on his market, too, after a high-quality season in which Minor bounced back from shoulder problems. As a lefty with a starter’s arsenal, Minor could be awfully handy on plenty of rosters, though his contractual upside will likely be limited by his health history.
- Free agent righty Alex Cobb, meanwhile, still seems to be facing a fairly wide-open market. Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times tweets that “a lot” of teams have interest, but that there’s “nothing close” to coming together at the moment. Quite a few organizations could end up having interest in Cobb, who certainly has some earning upside beyond the four-year, $48MM contract that MLBTR predicts he’ll land. Cobb turned down a qualifying offer from the Rays, so the draft compensation he’ll return to the organization will depend upon whether or not he’s able to surpass our best guess and earn a $50MM guarantee.
- The Blue Jays held talks with the Braves regarding veteran outfielder Nick Markakis, Morosi tweets. But the chatter has “failed to advance” and it’s not clear whether the sides will pick things up. Markakis has continued to put up roughly league average offensive numbers, compensating for a lack of pop with solid on-base numbers, but isn’t much of a value on a $10.5MM salary. Presumably he’d have provided the Jays with a platoon piece for their outfield mix, but it stands to reason that the organization is looking to spend a bit less than that — particularly given that it has other, greater priorities.
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Originally posted by EmpireMaker
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Cubs franchise just roooooollllling in dough and happiness
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Sources say that Carlos Beltran did well in his interview on Wednesday for the Yankees managerial job. Other first rounders that are said to have done well include ESPN analyst Aaron Boone and Giants bench coach Hensely Meulens.
Rob Thomson, a 28-year veteran of the Yankees, is more of a known quantity for the organization. Thomson is still under consideration for the job, as well, though, he interviewed Wednesday to be Gape Kapler's bench coach with the Phillies, if things do not work out.
The Yankees have also interviewed Eric Wedge and Chris Woodward for the manager job. Neither can be eliminated just yet, but sources haven't heard as glowing reports on them. The Yankees still plan to potentially interview a candidate or two more before paring their list down. They are in no rush.Comment -
Yankees should interview A-Rod for the vacant manager position.
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They are. JLo is insisting the Yankees to interview Alex.Originally posted by BigSpoonYankees should interview A-Rod for the vacant manager position.
Jose Canseco is telling Jeter to hire him as Marlins manager.Comment -
color me shocked that J-Lo endorsed A-Rod :P[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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6:40pm: Indeed, Angels GM Billy Eppler forthrightly acknowledges that the team sought the spending capacity “with an eye toward” pursuit of Ohtani, as Fletcher tweets. That the market now also features some notable potential consolation prizes in the form of younger international talent surely made it easier for the Halos to justify the gambit.
2:26pm: Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register reports that the Angels do indeed plan to use the extra funds in order to enhance their pitch to Ohtani. Further, he tweets that Johnson is technically only owed $4.5MM through the end of his contract, not $5MM, due to a $500K signing bonus that has already been paid out.
1:53pm: Jonathan Mayo of MLB.com reports (via Twitter) that the Angels will receive all of the Braves’ remaining pool space: a total of $1.21MM. While the CBA mandates that pool money must be traded in blocks of $250K, it also outlines an exception in the event that the club’s remaining pool space is less than $250K (which would apply to the $210K that remained after the first million).
As Mayo notes, this now gives the Angels a total of $1.315MM that they can offer Ohtani (or another international free agent, such as former Braves prospect Kevin Maitan).
1:13pm: The Braves announced today that they’ve traded right-hander Jim Johnson to the Angels in exchange for minor league lefty Justin Kelly. The Angels also pick up a yet-undetermined amount of international bonus money in the deal, per each club’s announcement.
Johnson, 34, parlayed a strong 2016 season into a two-year, $10MM contract with the Braves but flopped to the tune of a 5.56 ERA in the first season of that deal in 2017. The former Orioles closer and two-time American League saves leader logged 56 2/3 innings with 9.7 K/9, 4.0 BB/9 and 1.27 HR/9 in what proved to be his worst season since the 2014 season. Johnson’s once sky-high ground-ball rate (62.3 percent at his peak) sat at a solid but unremarkable level of 48.5 percent in 2017.
Despite the rough year, though, Johnson’s season wasn’t devoid of reason for optimism. His 9.7 K/9 rate was the best of his career, as was his 9.4 percent swinging-strike rate. His fastball maintained its 93-94 mph velocity, and metrics like xFIP (3.98) and SIERA (3.87) were considerably more bullish on his output. Johnson also isn’t far removed from a strong season; as previously alluded to, he turned in a 3.06 ERA with 9.5 K/9, 2.8 BB/9, 0.4 HR/9 and a 55 percent grounder rate in 64 2/3 frames as recently as 2016. For an Angels club that has already lost Yusmeiro Petit and also saw relievers Bud Norris, Andrew Bailey, Huston Street and (in a summer trade) David Hernandez depart, Johnson will give them a rebound option to soak up some of the lost innings.
Of course, Johnson is a bit pricey for a bullpen rebound candidate, earning $5MM in 2018. However, the Halos will also pick up some coveted international funds that they’ll add to what was a reportedly depleted total of $150K in their international bonus pool. International pool space must be traded in increments of at least $250K, per the collective bargaining agreement, so Anaheim will nearly triple its available resources even if they received only the minimum $250K. Those funds, of course, can be used as part of a pitch to Shohei Ohtani or to some of the Braves’ recently lost prospects, who are all subject to international pools.
[Related: Updated Angels Depth Chart and Braves Depth Chart]
Kelly, 25 in April, was a 33rd-round pick out of UC Santa Barbara in 2016 and spent the bulk of his first full professional season in the Class-A Midwest League. In 29 2/3 innings there, Kelly pitched to a strong 2.43 ERA with 7.9 K/9, 3.3 BB/9 and a 44.4 percent ground-ball rate. The Halos gave him brief looks in Class-A Advanced, Double-A and Triple-A late in the season, though none of those three cameos produced enviable results.
Overall, Kelly’s season wrapped up with a composite 3.53 ERA, 8.1 K/9 and 4.1 BB/9 in 63 2/3 innings (six starts, 19 relief appearances). Considering he’s the return in a move that amounts to a salary dump from the Braves, it’s not especially surprising that Kelly wasn’t ranked among the Angels’ top 30 farmhands. He could head to the bullpen for the Braves’ Class-A Advanced affiliate to open the 2018 campaign.Comment -
Who are the idiots listening to JLo and Canseco???Comment
