Why is the ACC Perceived Weak

pouyasophy · 05-20-13, 09:48 AM

because they always are/ thread

BigdaddyQH · 05-20-13, 11:53 AM

The ACC gets some outstanding players, but that is all. They do not have the depth on their teams that teams from the SEC and Pac 12 have. That is what is killing them.

WorkHorse · 05-21-13, 06:42 AM

At the recent ACC spring meetings, the league's coaches voted unanimously to stick to an eight game conference slate. The rational for this is pretty straight-forward. For programs with a long-standing rivalry game against an in-state rival, a schedule that includes nine conference games, a rivalry game and Notre Dame once every three years is very limiting. This type of schedule provides little flexibility for programs to schedule interesting non-conference matchups such as Clemson-Georgia (2013) or Florida State-Oklahoma State (2014).

Non-Conference Schedule

Boston College: Villanova, @ USC, Army, @ New Mexico St.
Clemson: Georgia, S. Carolina St., The Citadel, @ South Carolina
Duke: N. Carolina Central, @ Memphis, Troy, Navy
Florida St: Nevada, Bethune-Cookman, Idaho, @ Florida
Georgia Tech: Elon, @ BYU, Alabama A&M, Georgia
Maryland: Fla-International, Old Dominion, @ UConn, West Virginia (Baltimore)
Miami: Fla-Atlantic, Florida, Savannah St., @ South Florida
North Carolina St: La Tech, Richmond, Central Michigan, East Carolina
Pittsburgh: New Mexico, Old Dominion, @ Navy, Notre Dame
Syracuse: Penn St. (NJ), @ Northwestern, Wagner, Tulane
Virginia: BYU, Oregon, VMI, Ball State
Virginia Tech: Alabama (Atlanta), West Carolina, @ East Carolina, Marshall
Wake Forest: Presbyterian, La-Monroe, @ Army, @ Vanderbilt
North Carolina: @ South Carolina, Middle Tenn, East Carolina, Old Dominion

BigdaddyQH · 05-21-13, 01:41 PM

In other words, the ACC is so weak that they are afraid that if they cannot get at least two cream puffs on each and every schedule, they will not be able to fill their allotment of Bowl games. This is pathetic.

Mac4Lyfe · 05-21-13, 08:26 PM

ACC has good talent but very poor coaching. It starts with head coaches then it filters down to assistants. Most ACC teams pay assistants peanuts compared to the SEC which is a big problem. The biggest problem is that it is and always will be a basketball conference. Schools like FSU try in vain to pump up football but get out voted on anything that will help the league strengthen it's football.

WorkHorse · 05-23-13, 07:05 AM

Mac, I think you make a valid point about assistant coaches not being paid the salaries of some other conferences. Good assistant coaches make or break a program. Money talks and many of the good ones walk. I'm sure the ACC has some good coaches but maybe not the quality of other conferences....especially the SEC.

daneblazer · 06-02-13, 06:53 AM

Outside of Florida State, Clemson, and Virginia Tech nobody gives a damn about football.

Miami's president is killing them. UNC & Duke talk basketball 365. To a lesser degree Wake and NC State do too and the stadium is 10 miles away from the campus in Raleigh. Virginia is fru fru. Georgia Tech runs the option.

Most of these schools also have pretty tough academic standards. At FSU if you can run a 4.3, they'll find a way to get you in the school. Duke, GT, BC, not so much.

FSU and Clemson have come really close to leaving the conference. I'm not entirely sure they won't after it's all said and done.