Hougigo's boxing/MMA picks

**Grabaka** · 08-10-13, 02:31 PM

Come on fellaz you gonna rip your stockings.

**hougigo** · 08-11-13, 12:09 AM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

Moreno/Spong/Moraes/Kovalev. I feel very confident with all 4.

Well, finish it out next week

**hougigo** · 08-11-13, 12:10 AM

Chemito outclassed Urina.
Did what he did, tricky and creative as always

**hougigo** · 08-11-13, 05:24 PM

Man... I heard Curtis Stevens is mulling over turning down the 300k offer to fight Golovkin because he believes he deserves more money.... what kind of BS is that?
Talk all that trash like you're going to kill him and then you turn down your biggest pay day ever?
Just admit you're scared and move on

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**Ron_Paul_2012** · 08-11-13, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by hougigo

Man... I heard Curtis Stevens is mulling over turning down the 300k offer to fight Golovkin because he believes he deserves more money.... what kind of BS is that?
Talk all that trash like you're going to kill him and then you turn down your biggest pay day ever?
Just admit you're scared and move on

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For the last 2 years I've said that GGG will rule the 154/160 lbs. divisions! Right here, right now GGG is simply the best pound for pound boxer on the planet! Floyd Gayweather's lip quivered in fear when the idea of him entering the ring with GGG was mentioned! Curtis Stevens is just trying to get as much $ as possible because he know's that his body & mind will never be the same again after he get's into the ring with GGG! For all intents & purposes this will be Curtis Stevens' retirement fight.

MD · 08-11-13, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012

For the last 2 years I've said that GGG will rule the 154/160 lbs. divisions! Right here, right now GGG is simply the best pound for pound boxer on the planet! Floyd Gayweather's lip quivered in fear when the idea of him entering the ring with GGG was mentioned! Curtis Stevens is just trying to get as much $ as possible because he know's that his body & mind will never be the same again after he get's into the ring with GGG! For all intents & purposes this will be Curtis Stevens' retirement fight.

Floyd should have his way with GGG. GGG vs Martinez is the fight I want to see. If I can get GGG below -300, I'll be a happy man.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 08-11-13, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by MD

Floyd should have his way with GGG. GGG vs Martinez is the fight I want to see. If I can get GGG below -300, I'll be a happy man.

Floyd would get hit so hard it would straighten out his nappy head. And I would cap GGG vs Martinez @ -500. I'm drunk on the GGG cool-aid!

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 08-11-13, 09:27 PM

Realistically Gayweather would last about 11 or 12 rounds before the roof caved in on him. However, Martinez would not make it out of the 8th. And yes I will be putting my $ where my mouth is. What type of $? ALL IN type of $! Believe it!

**Boxscout** · 08-11-13, 09:45 PM

I think most people assume that Sergio won't end his career by being destroyed. Even if he's up for it, you'd think the people around him would finesse things to prevent it, especially as it wouldn't necessarily be a huge pay day. But I've heard others say that his disposition is such that he'll want to take on GGG and prove his greatness. Sergio's going to be on the shelf for a while and, if possible, I think he'll want to be sure to rematch junior and make sure to get that money.

Shooting from the hip, my guess is the line would resemble the Lucas/Garcia line. Obviously a lot will change between now and then, if there is a then.

**hougigo** · 08-11-13, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by MD

Floyd should have his way with GGG. GGG vs Martinez is the fight I want to see. If I can get GGG below -300, I'll be a happy man.

Against Martinez?
It'll be closer than that... as close as the Martinez/Jr lines.
He's older, injury prone and has been knocked down in his last 4 I believe... if not, at least the last 3 of 4.

**Ron_Paul_2012** · 08-11-13, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Boxscout

I think most people assume that Sergio won't end his career by being destroyed. Even if he's up for it, you'd think the people around him would finesse things to prevent it, especially as it wouldn't necessarily be a huge pay day. But I've heard others say that his disposition is such that he'll want to take on GGG and prove his greatness. Sergio's going to be on the shelf for a while and, if possible, I think he'll want to be sure to rematch junior and make sure to get that money.

Shooting from the hip, my guess is the line would resemble the Lucas/Garcia line. Obviously a lot will change between now and then, if there is a then.

Who would you make the favorite @154? At what odds. Gayweather vs Martinez. Same question for GGG vs Martinez & GGG vs Gayweather.

**Boxscout** · 08-11-13, 11:47 PM

His name is Floyd. Mr. Mayweather if you're nasty.

I really don't know. I guess there's an outside chance that Floyd and Sergio meet well into the future. A lot would depend on Sergio's health and how they looked up to that point. Obviously, the Canelo fight will tell us a lot about Floyd vs. a bigger guy with good power.

MD · 08-12-13, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by hougigo

Against Martinez?
It'll be closer than that... as close as the Martinez/Jr lines.
He's older, injury prone and has been knocked down in his last 4 I believe... if not, at least the last 3 of 4.

Against Martinez, yeah. GGG would probably be around -220 I think, although it's an almost unwinnable fight for Martinez at this point in his career.

**hougigo** · 08-12-13, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by MD

Against Martinez, yeah. GGG would probably be around -220 I think, although it's an almost unwinnable fight for Martinez at this point in his career.

I don't think Martinez will be the favorite... but who knows.
He's old in age and has shown that his body is breaking down.
If GGG can land those body shots, his body will break down fast

**hougigo** · 08-12-13, 12:35 AM

Originally posted by Boxscout

His name is Floyd. Mr. Mayweather if you're nasty.

I really don't know. I guess there's an outside chance that Floyd and Sergio meet well into the future. A lot would depend on Sergio's health and how they looked up to that point. Obviously, the Canelo fight will tell us a lot about Floyd vs. a bigger guy with good power.

They won't meet. Sergio's got a contract with HBO and Floyd with Showtime...only way this happens is if Sergio is out of his HBO contract and signs as soon as he can with Floyd at 150... can't be too long because he's old

**bobby heenan** · 08-12-13, 02:42 PM

stevens, while a moron, is just playing his hand.....he could lose it and get nothing...or he can milk an extra 50k....depends on whether or not gggs promotional company will cave since it seems to be a fight that the public is clamoring for and would get approved easily......but really macklin got 300k and even in losses to sturm(welllll) and martinez is better than anything stevens has ever done really.....but stevens is probably looking for an extra 50k or so in a cash out

**hougigo** · 08-12-13, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by bobby heenan

stevens, while a moron, is just playing his hand.....he could lose it and get nothing...or he can milk an extra 50k....depends on whether or not gggs promotional company will cave since it seems to be a fight that the public is clamoring for and would get approved easily......but really macklin got 300k and even in losses to sturm(welllll) and martinez is better than anything stevens has ever done really.....but stevens is probably looking for an extra 50k or so in a cash out

Screw that though, that big ass offer was probably so they wouldn't be begging for more money. GGG made 350k his last fight, probably won't make much more in a Stevens fight.
Now Stevens wants more or the same as GGG?
He needs a reality check back in NBC

**hougigo** · 08-13-13, 06:41 PM

Stupid 5dimes taking forever for Kovalev props

**hougigo** · 08-13-13, 06:42 PM

NVM, as soon as I post this, they post it up

**hougigo** · 08-13-13, 06:48 PM

Also... When Alvarado/Provo lines are out... Imagine they'll be close.
Going to make a play on Alvarado... if TKO/KO is good, I might give it a look.
Provo cuts like a napkin.
If Bradley cuts you without a headbutt, you're screwed. He's been cut numerous times and that won't be good against Alvarado, especially if he won't be able to see

**hougigo** · 08-14-13, 02:51 AM

**hougigo** · 08-14-13, 02:29 PM

Canelo weighing 166.8 30 days out of Mayweather fight.
He's supposed to weigh 152 for the fight

**Sato** · 08-14-13, 02:48 PM

MAyweather UD. Oh boi...that was easy...

**hougigo** · 08-14-13, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Sato

MAyweather UD. Oh boi...that was easy...

Canelo is cutting too much weight for 154 now.... 14 pounds and some change off from weight and he already looks pretty cut. Where are those other other 14 pounds going to come from?
He'll gas

**Boxscout** · 08-15-13, 02:28 AM

He'll dry himself out. Some on ESB are saying he'll be able to cut it by dehydrating and be OK. Others are saying that will take a big toll on him. I don't really know much about that stuff, other than that it's reason number 824 that I'm glad I am not a fighter.

Some announcer type who is knowledgeable, though I forget which one, posited during some fight, though I forget which one, that a reason for Canelo's sporadic style is that he has trouble making 154. A couple years back he failed to make 150 against Mathew Hatton. Also, Floyd and his team are very smart and they asked for the catchweight for a reason. So I'm strongly inclined to think it will have a significant effect.

**Crassus** · 08-15-13, 08:40 AM

Originally posted by hougigo

Canelo is cutting too much weight for 154 now.... 14 pounds and some change off from weight and he already looks pretty cut. Where are those other other 14 pounds going to come from?
He'll gas

If he has the right nutritionist, 14lbs won't be too bad.

**mirinquads** · 08-15-13, 12:52 PM

Depends if hes already completely shredded.

**Sato** · 08-15-13, 12:58 PM

Not gonna lie. Canelo looks like shit. 14 lbs that are left could kill the guy. Look at the pic for christs sake.

**hougigo** · 08-15-13, 02:18 PM

Canelo has a history of gassing. He's a big boy for the weight class.
If he gasses against Mayweather, things won't end well

**hougigo** · 08-15-13, 11:38 PM

Regretting my Spilzka wager now.... Mollo came in better shape and he's fighting in front of a huge home crowd.

**mirinquads** · 08-16-13, 07:22 AM

Originally posted by hougigo

Canelo has a history of gassing. He's a big boy for the weight class.
If he gasses against Mayweather, things won't end well

You see a TKO? I doubt Mayweather would open up enough to get it against the power of Canelo even if gassed. Maybe by cuts tho..

**Boxscout** · 08-16-13, 09:27 AM

Yeah, I agree. Floyd just saw what happened to his boy Micky Bey (who I bet on), trashing John Molina all fight and trying to finish in the last round, then getting stopped. I mean, he's smart enough to know that risk anyway, but it's a good example. Canelo would have to be really ripe for it, I think.

**hougigo** · 08-16-13, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

You see a TKO? I doubt Mayweather would open up enough to get it against the power of Canelo even if gassed. Maybe by cuts tho..

I think that's totally a possibility to happen.... But I don't know if his hands will hold up for long enough. I see him landing shots, hurt his hand again and doing enough for a win, but not enough for a KO.
Mayweather is notorious for having "brittle" hands, I don't expect that to change now

I'd either got with a SU or decision win

**mirinquads** · 08-16-13, 05:37 PM

Yeah, dude seems to be getting even more cautious with them too.. Im sure he has the capability though offensive to defensive wise.

Has Birdy ever really been tested in any of his fights? Or just murder everyone?

**hougigo** · 08-16-13, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by mirinquads

Yeah, dude seems to be getting even more cautious with them too.. Im sure he has the capability though offensive to defensive wise.

Has Birdy ever really been tested in any of his fights? Or just murder everyone?

Who's Birdy?