Is Gonzaga Too Big A Pussy To Take With Any Sort Of Confidence?

**Vitooch** · 01-14-12, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by gabe

I don't have categories. For the millionth time, when I mention personal bets I make, they are not PLAYS.

PLAYS are the PLAYS I give out in my THREADS where I call them plays.

It is VERY EASY to go through my threads and see what my plays were.

I think it's lame having one thread for years, I don't want to do that. I like posting a separate thread for every card.

You don't respect the way I give out my picks. That's fine.

You're right, what Vaughany and I do are different. I prefer my way. It's much more simple. I give out PLAYS. He lists a million dif types of bets he makes, with random units. It would be impossible to follow his plays, unless you're on 5dimes. He does a bunch of parlays, etc. His shit is more complicated. Mine is as simple as A-B-C. You click on my thread, you see what my picks are, and that's it. If you see me say that one of them is a LOCK, then extra sweet.

I would much rather see you track YOUR personal bets rather than your "plays". No one here gives a shit about your plays if you're not laying money on them. This is a betting forum isn't it? Doesn't have to be all on one continuous thread, but atleast update your career record, units W/L every thread you make. This should be easy, as you say.

Not saying Vaughany is more credible because he arbs, and does parlays and
other more advanced stuff. I prefer simplicity. But atleast he keeps all the BETS he makes documented. You confuse people with your bets, and your locks, and plays, and your picks. We wanna see how much better you are capping MMA with your money.

**gabe** · 01-14-12, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by Vitooch

I would much rather see you track YOUR personal bets rather than your "plays". No one here gives a shit about your plays if you're not laying money on them. This is a betting forum isn't it? Doesn't have to be all on one continuous thread, but atleast update your career record, units W/L every thread you make. This should be easy, as you say.

Not saying Vaughany is more credible because he arbs, and does parlays and
other more advanced stuff. I prefer simplicity. But atleast he keeps all the BETS he makes documented. You confuse people with your bets, and your locks, and plays, and your picks. We wanna see how much better you are capping MMA with your money.

I DO LAY MONEY ON MY "PLAYS"

My "personal bets" are bets I make just to have action on the fight. Usually on big underdogs I think are going to lose. For example, Caravalho was a personal bet of mine that just lost and Mike Massenzio will be another personal bet I have that I assume will lose. I just want to have action on the fight, I don't want to tell other people to bet on Caravalho and Massenzio.

I don't see how anybody with an IQ above 90 would be confused about any of this. There are HANDICAPPED PLAYS I give out, and then are fights I bet on just to have action. Very simple.

**more_betterness** · 01-14-12, 09:04 PM

Tough luck gabe.. To be fair his standup looked a little bit cleaner than I had anticipated

**Vaughany** · 01-14-12, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by more_betterness

Tough luck gabe.. To be fair his standup looked a little bit cleaner than I had anticipated

Yeah it did, but still way out of his league. Certainly not the -180 or whatever that Gabe capped him at

**Kaladarus** · 01-14-12, 09:09 PM

Hope you ended up playing this. Cashed my biggest play for the night.

**koscheckbaby** · 01-14-12, 09:10 PM

That guy should have tried chinning Gonzaga's forearm before the choke knocked him out. Napao probably would have tapped or went to the fetal position.

**koscheckbaby** · 01-14-12, 09:11 PM

Has Gonzaga's BJJ regressed? It seemed like that guy was making amateur mistakes and still got back to his feet briefly once. He also was giving Gonzaga a guillotine, which Rogan even pointed out.

**Vaughany** · 01-14-12, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Hope you ended up playing this. Cashed my biggest play for the night.

Playin what? Gabe was on Oliveira

**Kaladarus** · 01-14-12, 09:14 PM

Was talking to Koscheck. Hopefully enough here convinced him to end up making a play on Gonzaga.

**gabe** · 01-14-12, 09:15 PM

Way over estimated Oliveira's ground game... BJJ was supposed to be the core of his game, what got him into MMA... I've never seen his BJJ in action, but the info i dug up lead me to believe he had no problems in that area. you can't even count on research when it comes to guys who have never fought in the UFC. i learned that lesson big before betting on eddie yagin against junior assuncao.

**koscheckbaby** · 01-14-12, 09:16 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Was talking to Koscheck. Hopefully enough here convinced him to end up making a play on Gonzaga.

I did. Who am I to question guys that have actually studied the fights

**Vaughany** · 01-14-12, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Kaladarus

Was talking to Koscheck. Hopefully enough here convinced him to end up making a play on Gonzaga.

ah I see..yes sirrrrrr

**more_betterness** · 01-14-12, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by gabe

Way over estimated Oliveira's ground game... BJJ was supposed to be the core of his game, what got him into MMA... I've never seen his BJJ in action, but the info i dug up lead me to believe he had no problems in that area. you can't even count on research when it comes to guys who have never fought in the UFC. i learned that lesson big before betting on eddie yagin against junior assuncao.

Looked lackluster enough in the Geronimo Dos Santos fight for me to be on Gonzaga.

**Vaughany** · 01-14-12, 09:27 PM

Yeah, there was plenty of footage of Oliveira on his back in fights as he the footage showed he could be taken down with a bit of persistence. He didnt show a very aggressive guard, all he showed was an ability to stall some of his opponents from doing much damage. But against somebody of Gonzaga's calibre on the ground it's a different story. I don't what you expected him to do to Gonzaga on the ground? And saying that he was going to submit Gonzaga was ridiculous!

**koscheckbaby** · 01-14-12, 09:27 PM

Will say though that past looks can be deceiving. Remember Anthony Pettis had poor takedown D? Then, stuffed Shane Roller. Sometimes, things change from one camp to the next.

**koscheckbaby** · 01-14-12, 09:28 PM

The last Brazil card, Nedkov looked like shit and arguably lost to Kevin Candleman. Yet, he put out Luiz Cane, who for all his faults, is talented as hell. Look at how he destroyed Marshall, who gave Vera fits.

**Vaughany** · 01-14-12, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Will say though that past looks can be deceiving. Remember Anthony Pettis had poor takedown D? Then, stuffed Shane Roller. Sometimes, things change from one camp to the next.

Yeah you're right to a certain extent. Know it's only an example but I cant help but say that for all his wrestling credentials Roller's takedowns can be sloppy at times (especially when he starts to gas as he did against Pettis!). And he did get Pettis down a couple of times but just got dominated by Showtime's aggressive guard and transitions! I have to say that because I remember I had a play on Roller thinking he'd go in there and dominate Pettis with his wrestling, but instead gassed out and got schooled!

**more_betterness** · 01-14-12, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by koscheckbaby

Will say though that past looks can be deceiving. Remember Anthony Pettis had poor takedown D? Then, stuffed Shane Roller. Sometimes, things change from one camp to the next.

Then got wrestle****** two fights later by Guida.