The guy is a great frontrunner. But the moment he gets any sort of adversity in a fight, he's toast. Edinaldo is undefeated, has KO power, and is a black belt in BJJ. Everyone seems to think he's awfully sloppy though and is taking Big Nose with confidence. But it sounds like he's tough and hard to finish, the opposite of Gonzaga. Gonzaga got friggin rocked by a Couture jab. This guy has no chin or fortitude.
Is Gonzaga Too Big A Pussy To Take With Any Sort Of Confidence?
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koscheckbabySBR MVP
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#1Is Gonzaga Too Big A Pussy To Take With Any Sort Of Confidence?Tags: None -
koscheckbabySBR MVP
- 04-05-10
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#2For those that have seen Oliviera's fights, does he go to the fetal position at all? Watching Mayhem and Rivera go fetal in previous fights made me like Bisping, since that's the only way he can get a TKO. If Oliviera has a knack for going into the fetal position in his fights instead of fighting back, Gonzaga probably could get him.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-12-11
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#3Ednaldo should be a big favorite, the line is a steal.
Don't let people talking him down on here discourage you. I've missed out on good plays and have also bet a lot less than I normally wanted to bet on winning plays 'cos of the guy I'm betting on being talked down on here.Comment -
koscheckbabySBR MVP
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#4Ednaldo should be a big favorite, the line is a steal.
Don't let people talking him down on here discourage you. I've missed out on good plays and have also bet a lot less than I normally wanted to bet on winning plays 'cos of the guy I'm betting on being talked down on here.Comment -
The HOFFSBR MVP
- 07-02-08
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#5With the line so close this fight should be a golden live betting option.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-12-11
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#7I can truly understand the Gonzaga backers at the current line though, since he's so talented. But if this Ednaldo is tough, like the Joey Beltran type that keeps fighting through adversity, I think he'll make Gonzaga quit within the 15 minutes. But it's possible he's overmatched skill wise and just loses.Comment -
The HOFFSBR MVP
- 07-02-08
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#8Well like you said if Oliveira makes it through the first then he can make Gonzaga quit. Should be able to get a good read on this one in the first minute or two.Comment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
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#9Ednaldo should be a big favorite, the line is a steal.
Don't let people talking him down on here discourage you. I've missed out on good plays and have also bet a lot less than I normally wanted to bet on winning plays 'cos of the guy I'm betting on being talked down on here.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-12-11
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#10You're right, I've never seen him fight in person. This thing you're using, right now, called "the internet" - you can use it to watch fights of fighters who haven't fought in the UFC before. Sounds like you didn't know, so you're welcome.Comment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
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Educ8d Degener8SBR MVP
- 01-12-10
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#12This fight comes down to GG's mental state.
There's EO fights on youtube. He's fought scrubs, and has wild sloppy striking. To his advantage, he's lanky as hell, and does utilize a jab a bit. He also tends to drop his hands, and that could spell trouble for him against Gonzaga.
There's value in this line, but as you can see in this thread - it's debated to which side.Comment -
koscheckbabySBR MVP
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Educ8d Degener8SBR MVP
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#14Classic Gabe... never taken the time to actually watch a fighter... judge's value in line from wiki records...
Here's the caliber of EO's recent opponents:
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koscheckbabySBR MVP
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#15This fight comes down to GG's mental state.
There's EO fights on youtube. He's fought scrubs, and has wild sloppy striking. To his advantage, he's lanky as hell, and does utilize a jab a bit. He also tends to drop his hands, and that could spell trouble for him against Gonzaga.
There's value in this line, but as you can see in this thread - it's debated to which side.
I want to bet on Gonzaga, hearing the shit I hear about Oliviera. But seriously, the guy is such a flake. He looked amazing against Werdum in their second fight and folded the moment he was hit. AGAINST WERDUM. Any one with any sort of power hitting him has a chance. Lesnar vs Gonzaga should have happened. Who goes fetal first?Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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When you bet on a fighter, you spend weeks living at home with him and hanging out with him at the gym, right? My watching videos of him and using the internet to study him is certainly nothing compared to the things you do!
And again you say I've never seen him fight after we established that you can watch fights of his online. What an idiot, this guy. Do you only bet on fighters you've seen fight in person? LOL GTFO here, fool.Comment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
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The fact of the matter remains. You claim this line is "way off", but you have not done the necessary research to come to this conclusion. All you have done is looked at the wiki page of one of fighters and noticed that JDS was his coach. You havent even took the time to go on youtube and take a look at ONE of his fights. You say he is a hot prospect, but those who have watched him fight have spotted major flaws in his game, and have backed Gonzaga. Both these sources, may I add, are entirely more credible than you are, because they actually take the time to do their research instead of just making assumptions.Comment -
more_betternessSBR Sharp
- 08-18-11
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#21The industry pioneer in UFC, Bellator and all things MMA (aka Ultimate Fighting). MMA news, interviews, pictures, videos and more since 1997.
tell me what you would of thought of this guy before his UFC debut?
20-1-1 with 9 TKO's and 7 subs before his stint in the UFC, yet the hamburglar is a complete can.Comment -
KaladarusSBR MVP
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#22Gonzaga is not someone I feel that confident in betting, but I believe he has many clear cut advantages in here. The line is reflecting on Gonzaga's past performances and Oliveira's record more than both of their skills.
I would rather not put much on Gonzaga against almost anyone, but I have him handicapped quite a bit higher than what the books have him so for me I have to make this a decent size play.
Good luck with what you decide to play.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-12-11
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#23http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chris-Tuchscherer-10669
tell me what you would of thought of this guy before his UFC debut?
20-1-1 with 9 TKO's and 7 subs before his stint in the UFC, yet the hamburglar is a complete can.
I don't think Ednaldo is a new threat to the heavyweight division, I just think he's got what it takes to beat Gonzaga.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
- 03-07-10
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#24http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Chris-Tuchscherer-10669
tell me what you would of thought of this guy before his UFC debut?
20-1-1 with 9 TKO's and 7 subs before his stint in the UFC, yet the hamburglar is a complete can.
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more_betternessSBR Sharp
- 08-18-11
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#25Just a response to you pointing to his record and # of tko's. Really though good luck, I will gladly eat my crow if Gonzaga loses.Comment -
Educ8d Degener8SBR MVP
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#26I'm putting a bunch of money on EO when he's walking to the octagon... if he wins.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
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#27
I understand your use of sarcasm is more of a instinctual defensive mechanism because people call you out on your bullshit so much, but atleast use it correctly.
"People call you out on your bullshit" - What bullshit? Everytime someone has tried to use something against me, I have shut them up. I make simple mistakes sometimes, like mistaking one Asian fighter for another, but I own up to my mistakes and laugh about them. I don't try to bullshit anybody about anything. I am not a low-life like you CLEARLY appear to be, going out of your way to make assumptions and talk shit.
You havent even took the time to go on youtube and take a look at ONE of his fights.
You say he is a hot prospect, but those who have watched him fight have spotted major flaws in his game, and have backed Gonzaga. Both these sources, may I add, are entirely more credible than you are, because they actually take the time to do their research instead of just making assumptions.
I've taken my time to do my research, you are the idiot here making assumptions. You are also an idiot for referring to watching videos of him and finding flaws in his fighting as "research" - that's something practically everyone betting on the fight has done.
You say the Gonzaga backers are more credible than I am-- Who, Vaughany? Yeah, I know he does his research. I do mine, too. He does well, but I've had a higher percentage of winning plays hit than he has, so take your opinion of who is "credible" and shove it right up your dumb ass.Last edited by gabe; 01-14-12, 07:03 PM.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#28You say the Gonzaga backers are more credible than I am-- Who, Vaughany? Yeah, I know he does his research. I do mine, too. He does well, but I've had a more percentage of winning plays hit than he has, so take your opinion of who is "credible" and shove it right up your dumb ass.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-12-11
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I did a lot better before I got here, but still been doing GREAT!Comment -
VitoochSBR MVP
- 09-26-11
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#30Ok great. The fact that you have seen him fight is a relief. However, you still have made no mention of Ednaldo's abilities after having seen him fight. All you have mentioned is his record, and one of his coaches being JDS. I am forced to assume you have never seen him fight if you cannot present one redeeming quality of a fighter after watching his fights. If youre are trying to defend your case for a certain play in a thread, how can you only provide the fighters record as the only piece of tangible evidence.
Those who are backing Gonzaga say Ednaldo has major flaws in his game. Can you address that?Comment -
koscheckbabySBR MVP
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VitoochSBR MVP
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Prove me wrong Gabe. I will fully respect you if you make a thread of keep yourself completed updated. Instead of separating some of your plays into one category and some in another, just keep an honest accpunt of your actual plays and we ll see how you do.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-12-11
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#33Ok great. The fact that you have seen him fight is a relief. However, you still have made no mention of Ednaldo's abilities after having seen him fight. All you have mentioned is his record, and one of his coaches being JDS. I am forced to assume you have never seen him fight if you cannot present one redeeming quality of a fighter after watching his fights. If youre are trying to defend your case for a certain play in a thread, how can you only provide the fighters record as the only piece of tangible evidence.
Those who are backing Gonzaga say Ednaldo has major flaws in his game. Can you address that?
You should have asked me to present "one redeeming quality" about him first, before assuming I did not have any and just attacked me.
Yes, Ednaldo has flaws. Even Stefan Struve would beat his ass in a fight right now. But he his size, striking, and incredible conditioning (can go 5 rounds like it's nothing) to his advantage. I think their BJJ cancels out. Only reason for him to lose, IMO, is if Octagon jitters somehow play a factor. I think he will play it smart and come out on top. Worst case scenario, he wins 29-28. I expect him to get a TKO or Submission in Round 2 or 3.
I'm half betting on him and half betting against Gonzaga. I see him having the advantages in this fight, and it appears I'm the only one. Seems the rest of you see Gonzaga having the advantages. Only advantage he's got is experience, IMO.Comment -
gabeSBR Hall of Famer
- 09-12-11
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#34Vaughany keeps track of all of his plays in one thread. He keeps a detailed and updated account of all his plays including units before and after events. All you do is make these bullshit threads with weird unfunny videos and present your super mega lock plays. The way you and Vaughany go about your business is significantly different.
Prove me wrong Gabe. I will fully respect you if you make a thread of keep yourself completed updated. Instead of separating some of your plays into one category and some in another, just keep an honest accpunt of your actual plays and we ll see how you do.
PLAYS are the PLAYS I give out in my THREADS where I call them plays.
It is VERY EASY to go through my threads and see what my plays were.
I think it's lame having one thread for years, I don't want to do that. I like posting a separate thread for every card.
You don't respect the way I give out my picks. That's fine.
You're right, what Vaughany and I do are different. I prefer my way. It's much more simple. I give out PLAYS. He lists a million dif types of bets he makes, with random units. It would be impossible to follow his plays, unless you're on 5dimes. He does a bunch of parlays, etc. His shit is more complicated. Mine is as simple as A-B-C. You click on my thread, you see what my picks are, and that's it. If you see me say that one of them is a LOCK, then extra sweet.Comment -
VaughanySBR Aristocracy
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#35I don't have categories. For the millionth time, when I mention personal bets I make, they are not PLAYS.
PLAYS are the PLAYS I give out in my THREADS where I call them plays.
It is VERY EASY to go through my threads and see what my plays were.
I think it's lame having one thread for years, I don't want to do that. I like posting a separate thread for every card.
You don't respect the way I give out my picks. That's fine.
You're right, what Vaughany and I do are different. I prefer my way. It's much more simple. I give out PLAYS. He lists a million dif types of bets he makes, with random units. It would be impossible to follow his plays, unless you're on 5dimes. He does a bunch of parlays, etc. His shit is more complicated. Mine is as simple as A-B-C. You click on my thread, you see what my picks are, and that's it. If you see me say that one of them is a LOCK, then extra sweet.Comment
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