Dominick Cruz (-250) vs Joseph Benavidez (+210)

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  • lasker
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-10
    • 1683

    #1
    Dominick Cruz (-250) vs Joseph Benavidez (+210)


    This fight, a rematch of their WEC 42 bout (only this time with a title on the line), is one that I've had my eye on for a long time. Not only did I bet Benavidez straight up (I got him earlier @ +220, since I expected the line to move against him), but I've included him in a few parlays because I think there is still incredible value in this line. After adjusting for the vig, the current odds give Cruz a 68.9% chance of winning and Benavidez a 31.1% chance of winning. Because of the juice, Benavidez would have to win more than 32.3% of the time for this play to have value.

    This is a soft line. I think Benavidez should win this fight well over one-third of the time. The first fight was actually very close, and about a minute before it went to decision the commentators were saying that it could go either way. Cruz was slightly ahead, it must be admitted, and he also closed out the fight in a dominant position. But the first fight was one between two almost equally-matched competitors, and it was hardly the sort of blowout one might have expected given the current odds.

    Surprisingly enough, what sealed the decision for Cruz in their first fight were his takedowns. This is surprising because there is no question that Benavidez is the more experienced wrestler and should have the advantage in that area, at least on paper. He's not a stellar wrestler, but he is very good. Wrestling is his base and he is a former New Mexico State Wrestling Champion. Cruz' base, on the other hand, is his boxing. Why, then, did he score a few takedowns in their first fight? Benavidez was too keen to keep the fight standing. His gameplan clearly did not involve wrestling, and when Cruz -- the boxer -- did take him down it came as a big surprise. He simply hadn't been expecting it.

    The good news for Benavidez backers is that he admitted as much in recent interviews, stating that he forgot about wrestling entirely in their first match and that he knows he'll have to use it as one of his weapons in the rematch. At the very least, I think he will be ready for any takedown attempts by Cruz, and at best he'll be able to take Cruz down (although that is a very difficult task). I expect Benavidez to close the distance to overcome the reach advantage, employ a Randy Couture-style gameplan of dirty boxing against the cage, and work for some takedowns. This, in turn, will have an effect on Cruz' standup. He won't be able to be as loose with his striking as he was in the first fight, because he'll have to worry more about the fight going to the ground.

    As for the standup, Cruz has the better boxing technique and is known for his outstanding footwork. But Benavidez has far more power, and it's power that he demonstrated in his last two fights. In addition, Benavidez seems to have a granite chin and I think his main concern would be getting outpointed on the feet, not getting KO'd or TKO'd. In the first fight Benavidez was effective in closing the distance when he chose to. Cruz is generally thought to be the faster fighter due to his footwork, but Benavidez is a short and speedy fighter himself. He has learned to move forward very quickly to close the distance on his opponents, and Cruz hasn't shown either the power of counter-punching ability to prevent that.

    In the jiu-jitsu game, there can be little doubt that Benavidez has the edge. He has a mean guillotine choke (it seems to be the trademark of Team Alpha Male fighters) and has won seven of twelve fights by submission. By contrast, Cruz has only won by submission twice in his sixteen fights. He was also submitted -- by guillotine choke -- by Benavidez' friend and training partner Urijah Faber.

    Who has improved more since their close fight almost exactly one year ago? It's hard to say, but Benavidez has certainly had the more impressive victories since then. Cruz upset Brian Bowles to win the WEC Bantamweight title, but Bowles broke his right hand with the first punch he threw in that fight, and I really think it's hard to draw any serious conclusions under those circumstances. Yes, Cruz had great footwork and easily picked Bowles apart on the feet, but Bowles' main weapon was gone after one punch and his heart wasn't really in it after that. Benavidez, on the other hand, has rebounded to defeat two fighters who were ranked in the top 5 in the division -- first by knocking out jiu-jitsu whiz Rani Yahya, and then by absolutely dominating a man once thought by some to be the pound-for-pound king: Miguel Torres. His performance against Torres was especially frightening -- he hurt him badly on the feet and then submitted the jiu-jitsu blackbelt on the ground, something nobody had every managed to accomplish against Torres in 40 fights.

    Benavidez trains out of Team Alpha Male with the likes of Danny Castillo, Chad Mendes, and of course Urijah Faber. Cruz, who trains with Alliance MMA, also has a good camp but the other top fighters in his camp are all a few weight classes above: Brandon Vera and Phil Davis are at light-heavyweight, Joey Beltran is a heavyweight... unlike Castillo, Mendes and Faber, the smaller fighters who train out of Cruz' gym are not really close to the level that he would need to prepare for a fight of this magnitude. He's been training extensively with Orlando Jimenez because Jimenez is an outstanding wrestler with the same build as Benavidez, but Jimenez is not an MMA fighter and cannot really prepare him for the kind of pace and intensity that Benavidez brings.

    In recent interviews, Benavidez has shown tremendous confidence in his chances this time around, and from the way he says it, I think that he really believes it. Benavidez is mentally strong, he puts the work in and fights his heart out every fight. He had absolutely no hesitation when going up against a legend in Miguel Torres, and I expect him to take the fight to Cruz here. Perhaps Cruz is the rightful favorite, but in no way should he be favored by as much as the current line suggests. This is a five-round fight that only one fighter has a good chance to stop inside the distance, and that is Benavidez via superior power and/or superior grappling. I also think there is excellent value in Benavides to win inside the distance @+432, and I would recommend that if you have 5dimes.
  • Straight Cash
    SBR MVP
    • 11-20-09
    • 2202

    #2
    I think Benavidez is worth a serious look at these odds.
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    • KCJMAC
      SBR High Roller
      • 08-03-10
      • 133

      #3
      Fantastic analysis, Lasker. I was on the fence, but you convinced me. In for Benavidez.
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      • Shane
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-28-10
        • 466

        #4
        Great write-up. Cruz is rightfully the favorite, but I'm leaning pretty hard toward Benavidez. Maybe Miguel's aura was already gone after the Bowles knockout, but it was downright scary what Joe did to him in that fight.
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        • playa420
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 03-09-08
          • 881

          #5
          I gotta disagree with you here.I think this fight is gonna go the same as the first, only with cruz getting a stoppage in the latter rounds.If you watch the first fight you can see Cruz broke Benavidez in the second and after the 3rd he was destroyed.I wouldnt put to much stock in Joes win over Torres, Bowels ****** up Torres, and he looked like shit against cruz.When Cruz fouht Bowles he broke him, and made him quit after 2.Bowles broke his hand in that fight, but Cruz ****** up his shit too and didnt think about quitting.I think Cruz is gonna pick Joe apart on apart on the feet, get some takedowns, and then finish him of in the 3rd or 4th round.Cruz -250 is a decent price for this fight.
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          • snake11eyes
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 07-28-10
            • 618

            #6
            Good jod Lasker. I was leaning towards putting Cruz in a couple parlays. Maybe I'll switch it up -250 does seem a little steep. The one thing that makes me lean toward Cruz is when Cruz lost to Faber that was at 145. Since his drop to 135 he hasn't lost yet.
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            • lasker
              SBR MVP
              • 01-27-10
              • 1683

              #7
              Originally posted by playa420
              I gotta disagree with you here.I think this fight is gonna go the same as the first, only with cruz getting a stoppage in the latter rounds.If you watch the first fight you can see Cruz broke Benavidez in the second and after the 3rd he was destroyed.I wouldnt put to much stock in Joes win over Torres, Bowels ****** up Torres, and he looked like shit against cruz.When Cruz fouht Bowles he broke him, and made him quit after 2.Bowles broke his hand in that fight, but Cruz ****** up his shit too and didnt think about quitting.I think Cruz is gonna pick Joe apart on apart on the feet, get some takedowns, and then finish him of in the 3rd or 4th round.Cruz -250 is a decent price for this fight.
              Good luck to you as well. But I think you're putting way too much stock in the Cruz-Bowles fight, when Bowles broke his right hand with the very first punch he threw. And I also completely disagree about Benavidez being broken at the end of the 2nd round. Even the commentators were talking about how even the fight had been up to the last minute in the third round. Benavidez emerged from the fight defeated but unhurt, and his spirit was never broken. To say it's a decent price for Cruz means you'd have to expect him to win this matchup more than 7 out of 10 times. Based on the first fight alone, I could never lay that kind of juice.
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              • sundin4prez
                SBR MVP
                • 03-09-10
                • 1970

                #8
                Benavidez with his wresting for me please
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                • squallsquall
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 05-24-09
                  • 273

                  #9
                  Can't believe how much smaller Benavidez looks. Could have been two different weight classes! That said, I'm impressed by Benavidez standup despite the huge reach disadvantage, and he's obviously much better on the ground.

                  I don't, however, buy the "forgot about wrestling" bullshit. He got taken down like ten times to none, somehow you'd think he was reminded of wrestling after, say, the first three takedowns? That's not forgetting, it's being dominated in that area. I think it's more of a case of not being able to translate pure wrestling skills into MMA wrestling. Cruz uses boxing to set up his takedowns, that wouldn't happen in a wrestling match.
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                  • illmatick
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-05-09
                    • 5456

                    #10
                    squall's got a point, he didn't forget anything, Cruz's wrestling style and the way he implements his techniques is just more adaptive for mma, with that said I still like Joseph at the current price, wouldn't surprise me at all to see another close fight that Cruz edges out with his takedowns though....
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                    • lasker
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-27-10
                      • 1683

                      #11
                      You make a good point that couldn't have simply "forgotten" about the wrestling for three full rounds. Still, the takedowns were definitely a surprise that he hadn't prepared for before the fight. I agree that Cruz used his boxing to effectively set up the takedowns, which as you say is totally different from a straight wrestling match, and Benavidez simply wasn't prepared for this tactic. I think he'll be better prepared this time around.

                      I really don't think Benavidez will get taken down very often this fight, and if there are many takedowns I think he'll be the one doing them. I might be way off. We'll soon see.
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                      • squallsquall
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 05-24-09
                        • 273

                        #12
                        I agree that Benavidez is an attractive bet at these odds. Let's hope he comes prepared!
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                        • lasker
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-27-10
                          • 1683

                          #13
                          My apologies if anybody tailed. This fight went very much like the first fight. I underestimated Cruz and overestimated Benavidez when it came to wrestling.

                          Ugh, not doing too well with these underdog blogs. Hopefully I can rebound soon. Congrats to those of you who backed Cruz
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                          • KCJMAC
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 08-03-10
                            • 133

                            #14
                            I thought Benavidez looked very live. I was a bit surprised that commentators had Cruz winning every round. I still think it was a decent bet.
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                            • sirchadwick1
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-02-10
                              • 1375

                              #15
                              Benavidez looked damn good.... just not good enough for Cruz. That kid is tough as nails and definitely packs some power for his small size. For his line, Joseph was definitely worth the play though... most impressive.
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