UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2 (August 20, 2016)

[firekillex]

Usually when you see pages and pages of main event talk and nothing on anything else basically, it means I won't take what is being said very seriously.

Make your own picks then bud?
this thread got taken over by a bunch of bums not surprising since it's a Diaz/mcgregor card
hopefully the arogant air bettors and people complaining about free tips/info get weeded out by the condit Maia card where more heated debates will happen again, particularly for that fight

[plekz]

yawn

outside of a ''ko'' you map out how conor mcgregor wins it realisticly based on everything we know of him and on avaliable footage. (because that's really all you can use to cap something, your ''wishes'' and ''believes'' are worth fck all'')

hardly worth it to travel to canada, if you are in the u.s at the same time then fine.

also, the respect in a ''dojo'' has fck all to do with treating a moron like the fcking moron he is, that has nothing to do with being humble. if you actually look through the posts, you'll see iv'e only gone at you and a couple of others, who just makes claims, and then when they are asked to present a foundation for said claim. you go on senseless fcking tirades about how you ''trane mma son'' (as if that's even fcking relevant to begin with)

when all you are being asked is to present a foundation for what you are claiming to be ''realistic'' scenarios. you find even one instance from me in this thread where i am haven't backed up my reasoning with concrete examples based on factual evidence (meaning data from previous fights or the like)

''robin black'' haha. you do realize both dan hardy and robin black (and rutten for that matter) are paid to hype and sell the fights?

i'd have taken you seriously if you'd mentioned someone like ruebusch (or zahabi for that matter) but that methhead emoband reject robin black? hahahahahahahaahahahaahah.

let me guess, he'll come with that ''thunder'' and that ''lightning'' based on the soles of his feet, stretching through the ''insert fancy latin words here'' or maybe it'll be the ''flim flam'' ?

fck outta here.

[Thrilla]

- Robin Black is here to breakdown the welterweight main event rematch at UFC 202 between Nate Diaz and Conor McGregor from the perspective of Nate Diaz.

- Breakdown from the perspective of Conor McGregor.

[plekz]

that's not a breakdown, dude just talks a bunch of shit.

[JIBBBY]

Make your own picks then bud?
this thread got taken over by a bunch of bums not surprising since it's a Diaz/mcgregor card
hopefully the arogant air bettors and people complaining about free tips/info get weeded out by the condit Maia card where more heated debates will happen again, particularly for that fight

Firekillex you're an SBR PRO and I know you don't bet air.. Hang in bud.. SBR PRO's don't bet air...

Yep, good observation!!! I guess people are fired up with tude for this event and probably because of the Nate Diaz and McGregor mouth factor.. Pound for pound those 2 are the biggest trash talkers in sport..

[Thrilla]

Firekillex you're an SBR PRO and I know you don't bet air.. Hang in bud..

Yep, good observation!!! I guess people are fired with tude for this event and probably because of the Nate Diaz and McGregor mouth factor.. Pound for pound those 2 are the biggest trash talkers in sport..

Could you pull out the stats for swear words from McGregor vs Diaz I & McGregor vs Aldo SBR forum threads. We might have a trend here.

[JIBBBY]

Bad blood UFC video is out - Nate talks about the difference in training before and now.. The full training camp is big according to Nate himself!!!

Watch this video and you may think twice before betting on McGregor..

[firekillex]

early weekend leans

mcgregor/diaz over 2.5 +115
rumble by decision +570
garbrandt tko/ko +100
magny -130
means/pennington/markos 3 way parlay

still looking at cerrone/story a bit more im kinda torn on this fight i like story as an underdog but i wanted a bit more then +140 , cerrone by decision could have value if you like him

[JIBBBY]

early weekend leans

mcgregor/diaz over 2.5 +115
rumble by decision +570
garbrandt tko/ko +100
magny -130
means/pennington/markos 3 way parlay

still looking at cerrone/story a bit more im kinda torn on this fight i like story as an underdog but i wanted a bit more then +140 , cerrone by decision could have value if you like him

I like these 2 at a quick glance...GL...

[plekz]

think garbrandt is getting way to much credit for the thomazinho ko, that fight was tailored for that to happen really as thomazinho showed he didn't learn anything at all after picket nearly did the same to him. mizugaki ain't no bum, henry briones that wen't to a decision with garbrandt however is.

[JIBBBY]

think garbrandt is getting way to much credit for the thomazinho ko, that fight was tailored for that to happen really as thomazinho showed he didn't learn anything at all after picket nearly did the same to him. mizugaki ain't no bum, henry briones that wen't to a decision with garbrandt however is.

Line is dropping now and probably for a good reason...

1533 Garbrandt wins by TKO/KO

-120

IDK Plekz?? Going by the basics and numbers - Cody "no love" is a brawler boxer and looks to knock ya out.. He's certainly got KO power in those hands!!!! It's hard to bet against that guy right now in a stand up fight which this next fight for him will probably be..

After all 8 of his 9 wins have come by way of KO.. The KO prop at even odds seems legit to me..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Cody-Garbrandt-50381

He's fighting an Asian dude whom has lost 2 in row and knocked out in one... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Takeya-Mizugaki-12074

[plekz]

mizugaki got blitzed by cruz, cruz litteraly ran at him and shot a double where he picked him up and slammed him to the ground, and then hammered him until the ref stepped in. no way comparable to what garbrandt is about.

fairplay to cody for ko'ing almeida, but almeida had defensive flaws that he exploited. miz is quite a step up from the bums cody have fought prior to almeida. i think it's 50/50 if he ko's him. but then it'll most likely be real early, considering he's got a undefeated record seems a bit unlikely he'll continue to headhunt if miz is hanging in there.

much like he did against briones when he realized that the ko wasn't likely to happen.

[JIBBBY]

I know Plekz I took Dom ITD in that fight and won.. I think Cody hits way harder then Dom Cruz...



Cody throws with evil intent and is pretty accurate when he does!!! Asian fade in play here...

[Thrilla]

[Demonata]

Might go to wendover again and put another $500 on McGregor. Already have $1000 on him. My biggest ufc bet ever for 1 fight.

[GunShard]

Mcgregor last more then 1 round in ufc. He doesn't gas after 1 round, this isn't heavyweights. He was rocked not gassed.

McGregor was gassed because he is fighting out of his weight class by two divisions. His coaches recommended him to fight in his natural weight class Featherweight or a weight class above in the Lightweight. Instead he takes the disadvantage at Welterweight. He doesn't see the weight class disadvantage factor, he sees the fight anyone anywhere factor first.

"To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." -Sun Tzu, The Art Of War

[LBfightlife]

Nate Diaz is such a retard that its unbelievable. GUy cant speak in sentences. Even the sound of his voice is retarded. Nobody understands him thats why they put subtitles in the video for him. Guy has serious brain damage and UFC 202 wont do him any good.

Long story short: If Conor again goes for a nonstop attacking style (spinning techniques, combination shots) he is going to lose. He easily has the tools to win a u. dec.

.. Wow.. I can see why it turns into a sh1t talking war around here. so many idiots. I can understand nate just fine, its a persona, hes not a rooster fk like McG who loves to run his mouth for the camera.

Nate is humble as hell, a true martial artist, and hes smart as hell, cashing in even when theh UFC tried to hold him down his whole career.

[LBfightlife]

^^ You guys are forgetting Nate came into that first fight on what a 2 week notice?.. Does anyone consider that Nate has a full training camp this go around? You people are drinking the cool aid way too much.. What ever improvements McIrish can gain Nate can gain as well and more.

Same result will happen, Nate by KO or SUB in the 3rd or 4th round.. Who wanna get paid?

$500.00

$575.00

Pending

8/20/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1001 Nate Diaz +115* vs Conor McGregor

$200.00

$$320.00

Pending

8/20/16 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1005 Diaz wins inside distance +160* vs Not Diaz inside distance

$115.00

$100.00

Pending

8/20/16 11:59pm MMA Props Fighting 1059 Diaz (scorecards = no action) -115* vs McGregor (scorecards = no action)

I like how you are playin this jibbbz... Balls bro.. Balls. From the vids Mcnugget is claiming he never sparred with tall guys orsouthpaws, blaw blaw blaw.. it got me thinking a little. I think nate should win but it could go the other way ala Josh Thompson if he gets caught..

I wish I had the confidence to bet more. I'll probs just play a hundred or two on the card.. I'll be there in Vegas VIP with the Skrappack crew.. Getting really stoked!!

[firekillex]

.. Wow.. I can see why it turns into a sh1t talking war around here. so many idiots. I can understand nate just fine, its a persona, hes not a rooster fk like McG who loves to run his mouth for the camera.

Nate is humble as hell, a true martial artist, and hes smart as hell, cashing in even when theh UFC tried to hold him down his whole career.

people just hate on everybody dude , gotta have respect for both guys they both started from nothing and are 2 of the most successful and recognizable stars in the ufc now . Both are super talented fighters and genuine good guys, mcgregors persona is for the entertainment side hes a businessman and diaz is much more intelligent then people give him credit for and people saying he sounds like a retard everybody sounds different lol i can understand him perfectly if you need subtitles you may be the retard realistically.. regardless next weekend will be fireworks plenty of good fights the entire night from fight pass , to prelims to the main card

[Hugo de Naranja]

people just hate on everybody dude , gotta have respect for both guys they both started from nothing and are 2 of the most successful and recognizable stars in the ufc now . Both are super talented fighters and genuine good guys, mcgregors persona is for the entertainment side hes a businessman and diaz is much more intelligent then people give him credit for and people saying he sounds like a retard everybody sounds different lol i can understand him perfectly if you need subtitles you may be the retard realistically.. regardless next weekend will be fireworks plenty of good fights the entire night from fight pass , to prelims to the main card

No Heavyweight fights on this card or the next one!

[firekillex]

No Heavyweight fights on this card or the next one!

A ton of good fights being overshadowed by the Diaz/mcgregor fight
rumble jonhnson/glover could be legendary, cerrone/story is super intriguing , Cody garbrandts rise will it continue ? Neil magny vs Lorenz Larkin another exciting 170 fight looks to be the trend the next 2 cards, then you got condit / Maia with Pettis/olivera and Lauzon/Miller plus get to see some of page vanzants ass great 2 cards pumped up for both but 202 should be one of the best cards of the year easily if the fights deliver

[plekz]

and genuine good guys, mcgregors persona is for the entertainment

yeah, that ''genuine good guy'' mcgregor who's on photos playing grab ass with strippers and plenty of coke stories surrounding him. not to mention that whole ''well sure i could help out with the whole union thing, but right now i do not give a fck about anyone else but myself''

''genuine good guy'' for sure.

[UncleChael]

#WarDiaz!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[Demonata]

yeah, that ''genuine good guy'' mcgregor who's on photos playing grab ass with strippers and plenty of coke stories surrounding him. not to mention that whole ''well sure i could help out with the whole union thing, but right now i do not give a fck about anyone else but myself''

''genuine good guy'' for sure.

I've seen countless videos of mcgregor hanging out with fans. He tteats his fans well and sometimes even stops by there house to hangout snd say hi. They both kinda treat the ufc like shit though.

[plekz]

I've seen countless videos of mcgregor hanging out with fans. He tteats his fans well and sometimes even stops by there house to hangout snd say hi. They both kinda treat the ufc like shit though.

probably because it pays the bills to have a fanfriendly persona, and he's trying to milk his window for as much as humanly possible aslong as that window is there. the ''genuine'' moments could be seen on tuf when he was calling his own fighter a bitch and shouting at him from outside the cage. or in the edited sparring sessions that he released online and got called out for.

that was the real conor shining through in all it's glory, he's just a better actor than jon jones is all. atleast with nate, he is who he is, nothing fake, no gimmicks. all the good, with the bad.

[CaptChaos145]

I'm going big on Diaz but there are a few variables I will cover...

Why did Conor gas? I agree with Firas when he said Conor was so used to being the bully he thought he could just go in and take Nate out. Once he realized Nate was still standing he was shocked and it hit him hard mentally. Conor said himself that he panicked. We have all panicked before right? What happens? You get worn out quick, you can't think straight, and you fold under the pressure. IF Conor goes into this fight knowing he will be in a 5 round war he may/should be better prepared for the agony of this fight. With that said... Maybe Conor's natural gas tank isn't that great. Some fighters get tired faster than others. For example you may be a good marathon runner but no matter how hard you train you may never be at the elite level cause genetically you don't have that elite cardio in you.

Am I worried Conor could clip him once or several times and finish Nate? Yup. I think it's a possibility. Conor missed a few of his spinning kicks and if 1 of those land flush it may be the end for Nate.

I have a hunch a few different things will play out in this fight... Nate was able top take Conor down easily in the 1st round of their last fight. I'd like to see Nate do this again. Yes Nate ended up on bottom after getting swept but I don't see Conor edging Nate on the ground. I see Nate being able to get the upper hand in that department.

This should be a great fight. My $$$ is on Nate but I would not be surprised to see Conor clip Nate. Conor has a puncher's chance.

[CaptChaos145]

Oh and go big on The Monsoon. Magny is good and durable but Larkin will be too much for him on the feet and Magny won't get Larkin to the ground and if he does Larkin will pop back up. Larkin has been the dark horse in this division for a while now. This is his breakout fight/win!!!!!!!

[firekillex]

I've seen countless videos of mcgregor hanging out with fans. He tteats his fans well and sometimes even stops by there house to hangout snd say hi. They both kinda treat the ufc like shit though.

Dont even bother responding to that bum guys the most annoying delusional bum I've ever witnessed.. Literally has a negative response to anything anybody says that emo fck. If you have watched anything on mcgregors rise you'd know he's genuinely a cool and humble dude but you're a sheep so I'm not surprised you believe his business persona now you'll cry and ask for examples and I'll give none because you can find them yourself now go cut your wrists and cry in the corner you negative loser


Larkin/magny to decision could have value to, very close fight magny has the boxing and reach where monsoon has the kicking and power ... I could see this being a super close decision or split here not sure either will get the finish tbh . Whoever wins will get a big step up next fight as well



btw edit whoever uploads these videos upload the Dan hardy breakdown dropped today super interesting stuff, he breaks down a lot of Diaz and mcgregors movements/techniques that a lot of others missed

[bjpenn85]

I'm going big on Diaz but there are a few variables I will cover...

Why did Conor gas? I agree with Firas when he said Conor was so used to being the bully he thought he could just go in and take Nate out. Once he realized Nate was still standing he was shocked and it hit him hard mentally. Conor said himself that he panicked. We have all panicked before right? What happens? You get worn out quick, you can't think straight, and you fold under the pressure. IF Conor goes into this fight knowing he will be in a 5 round war he may/should be better prepared for the agony of this fight. With that said... Maybe Conor's natural gas tank isn't that great. Some fighters get tired faster than others. For example you may be a good marathon runner but no matter how hard you train you may never be at the elite level cause genetically you don't have that elite cardio in you.

Am I worried Conor could clip him once or several times and finish Nate? Yup. I think it's a possibility. Conor missed a few of his spinning kicks and if 1 of those land flush it may be the end for Nate.

I have a hunch a few different things will play out in this fight... Nate was able top take Conor down easily in the 1st round of their last fight. I'd like to see Nate do this again. Yes Nate ended up on bottom after getting swept but I don't see Conor edging Nate on the ground. I see Nate being able to get the upper hand in that department.

This should be a great fight. My $$$ is on Nate but I would not be surprised to see Conor clip Nate. Conor has a puncher's chance.

Im also on nate for orientation. Zahabi suggested, the more likely scenario if conor wins, or an alternative method can be accumulative damage over several rounds. Have your ever seen nate NOT having blood pooring down his eyebrown? That may have made nates vision a bit cloudy in the thompson fight. If Conor paces himself and pick nate apart which he basically did for 7 minutes, that damage may take its toll and conor could finish nate in the later rounds. I dont think thats likely because 1. Nates is the one with the better pace or will have a perceived advantage after 7.5 min mark. 2.Conor didnt really land anything of significance which should lead us to believe he will this time around 3. KOs/tkos have a tendency to happen more frequently in round 1 or round 2 + nates may have been out of shape, for all we know, nate may smoke conor on the feet with a longer training camp.

But, its easy one of the worst figths in ufc history to break down. Just so many factors in this matchups. Maybe the least lock ever.

[firekillex]

Im also on nate for orientation. Zahabi suggested, the more likely scenario if conor wins, or an alternative method can be accumulative damage over several rounds. Have your ever seen nate NOT having blood pooring down his eyebrown? That may have made nates vision a bit cloudy in the thompson fight. If Conor paces himself and pick nate apart which he basically did for 7 minutes, that damage may take its toll and conor could finish nate in the later rounds. I dont think thats likely because 1. Nates is the one with the better pace or will have a perceived advantage after 7.5 min mark. 2.Conor didnt really land anything of significance which should lead us to believe he will this time around 3. KOs/tkos have a tendency to happen more frequently in round 1 or round 2 + nates may have been out of shape, for all we know, nate may smoke conor on the feet with a longer training camp.

But, its easy one of the worst figths in ufc history to break down. Just so many factors in this matchups. Maybe the least lock ever.

Agreed bj all valid points

[plekz]

he's genuinely a cool and humble dude

yeah, cool and humble people reguarly berate and call their teammates ''fcking bitch'' and such when they are trying to fight inside a cage and he's supposed to be acting as the coach. it's extremely humble to heavily edit sparring videos aswell to portray oneself in a better light right? (hope you are not gonna try denying that, considering the unedited footage got posted aswell)

he also said at the presser he himself had, that he recognized the good he could do for voicing a fighters union, but quite frankly he didn't care about helping out, him getting every piece he could off the table right now was more important to him.

you know, that ''humble'' & ''cool'' guy in action, other dudes living off table scraps.

[firekillex]

yeah, cool and humble people reguarly berate and call their teammates ''penetrating bitch'' and such when they are trying to fight inside a cage. it's extremely humble to heavily edit sparring videos aswell to portray oneself in a better light? (hope you are not gonna try denying that, considering the unedited footage got posted aswell)

he also said at the presser he himself had, that he recognized the good he could do for voicing a fighters union, but quite frankly he didn't care about helping out, him getting every piece he could off the table right now was more important to him.

you know, that ''humble'' & ''cool'' guy in action, other dudes living off table scraps.

its not his team ... He was giving instructions and the guy didn't listen he knew the guy for 3 weeks lmao and he was mad in competitive spirit another example you're a bum who hasn't trained

he was the one living off scraps and made it to himself he didn't have any help he owes nobody nothing .. Half the UFC talk crap about him why would he help them when he's probably busy 14 hours a day ?? He said maybe in the future to not like he said no

guy seen a fan with a cutout board of him and went into his house and signed autographs took pictures, never once seen a big time athlete do that. After every press conference he thanks each media member like a gentleman , even after defeating his opponent he usually shows class even against Aldo.. I've literally seen so many countless examples of him being a genuine good dude it just shows how trulely stupid you are , you say Diaz is just being himself mcgregor has never changed once he's been the exact same way from a bum to a UFC legend / highest earner not most can say the same.. His "trash talk" is just his analysis of the fighter if people can't handle it then don't watch his brutal honesty , just like Diaz he says what's on his mind if he thinks he can slap the shit out of somebody he's gonna say he'll slap the shit outta them lol any true fighter thinks he can beat anybody on the planet . Comparing mcgregor to Jon Jones is just a disgrace imo Jon Jones you can tell is legitimately a pathological liar / psychopath but he's the best ever so people wanna see him me included .. Mcgregor talks a lot but you can tell is genuinely truthful and real completely different it's sad you cannot see into this another reason why your mma analysis most likely are off if you can read into body language and other signs like this

[firekillex]

whats everybodys thoughts on the rumble/glover fight btw? i feel like this fight isnt getting the love it deserves
the winner could be fighting for a title after this fight has big implications at 205, and anytime rumble steps in the octagon its obviously must see tv

[PaperTrail07]

so ready for this card.....stop the main event coinflip talk.....concentrate on $ boyssss

[PaperTrail07]

Great fight-tough call----dont feel Glover is getting the respect he deserves personally....he makes it out of the 1st (i think he will)---only +140 on Johnson to win in the 1st LOL laughable....then it becomes anyones fight....he HUNTED down rashad in tampa and could do the same here......VERY interested in this fight...

whats everybodys thoughts on the rumble/glover fight btw? i feel like this fight isnt getting the love it deserves
the winner could be fighting for a title after this fight has big implications at 205, and anytime rumble steps in the octagon its obviously must see tv