UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2 (August 20, 2016)

[GoBlue77]

Mcgregor hit Nate flush with two round houses and one huge kick in the same spot....NATE JUST LAUGHED AT HIM...wtf do you think Nate's gonna do to him with a full camp?

Hope they have an ambulance on site and a good trauma center nearby

5 bills on Nate...will wait right before fight when all of Connor's assplay brothers start pounding him

I LOVE this reasoning. You're right, Nate is unbeatable.

$500 more on McGregor.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Hugo I don't really look to play round bets as I just think they are too hard to land and figure out.. I know you are big on round betting but I just don't like it.. What if Larkin starts landing in the first and then finally drops Magny in the 2nd round.. Your bets blow up.. ITD doesn't pay out like the round bets but it's the safer play...

I do like round 1 bets though at times, but there has to be round 1 trends, a killer fighting, and probably heavy weights.. In those cases I'll try a 1st round bet. Rumble Johnson is a good 1st round bet for example in most of his fights..

Just thinking out loud and wondering about the round betting that's it.. GL hugo as I always root for you to win when I'm not on the other side of the play..

Yeah I did say that I think Larkin ITD is best if you like Larkin but I think he almost always gets the finish in the first if he's going to get it so that could be a bonus for a small play. Magny has great cardio and a couple third round finishes so I think it's good value at these odds. My main play on this fight is that it goes the distance.

[bjpenn85]

I LOVE this reasoning. You're right, Nate is unbeatable.

$500 more on McGregor.

So this is a bit concerning for me, so how do you see this fight play out? Mcregors cardio will be on point, you also believe he can win a dec?

[Thor4140]

DIAZ Backers:

Are you at all concerned about the Pinnacle Lean? Pinnacle (and now 5Dimes/SportBet) looks to be taking a position with Diaz+110 or better and terrible numbers on McGregor, -124 and worse.

That is, the sparpest book is offering better-than-market numbers on Diaz and worse-than-market numbers on McGregor.

When this happens in MLB, NCAA, NFL, or NBA, it's an indicator a lot of people care about--even if it's just a few cents of juice. This is quite a bit more than that.

Good sign for McGregor?

When it comes to this sport i think u are way off base for what u are saying. All those other sports i agree with ya 100 percent. Now if it goes five i sure as hell would hope i was on McGregor cause that is when shady judging comes in and the shady shit always goes to the books

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

[plekz]

So this is a bit concerning for me, so how do you see this fight play out? Mcregors cardio will be on point, you also believe he can win a dec?

thing is, even if his cardio is ''on point'' his roof will always be significantly lower then someone that has atleast a 10+ year headstart on him.

''up in the air if it goes to the ground''

''decimating him in the first round''

he landed three more strikes, and managed to cut him with his glove, at no point did diaz even look rocked. who the fck is that crackpot?

[bjpenn85]

thing is, even if his cardio is ''on point'' his roof will always be significantly lower then someone that has atleast a 10+ year headstart on him.

''up in the air if it goes to the ground''

''decimating him in the first round''

he landed three more strikes, and managed to cut him with his glove, at no point did diaz even look rocked. who the fck is that crackpot?

I will always listening to sharp people who are in full disagreement with my own evaluation. Mcregor did win 7 out of those 8 minutes, not by a lot, but it was a clear 10-9. He showed skills in the standup department. Is max holloway a bad fighter? Not at all, Mcregor steamrolled him for three rounds. Hes not bad. Hes really good, its a question of cardio, but its also a question of gameplan, cardio and experience in a 5 round fight. Diaz has already won the mental battle, but im not sure if betting 10 units on this fight with so many unanswered questions is a good idea, its straight up gambling..but its f fun.

[plekz]

max was a kid back then, he didn't even have a proper camp and was training out of a garage on hawaii. conor had been a pro for 5 or 6 years at the time. if anything that fight said more about holloways potential then it spoke for mcgragor.

[bjpenn85]

True.

[plekz]

yeah think you can safely forget about all that ''oh nate's best intrest would be a loss to get a third fight'' he seems extremely aware that all this isn't built for him, it's built for conor. and that if he loses here, he ain't getting no fkn rematch.

[Ty$]

Garbrandt is -600 GTFO!!! Either No bet or go w the jap.

[JIBBBY]

^ Sounds like Nate is wanting to retire soon, maybe he's a little burnt out on the sport of MMA.. He's aware though that this is the time for big pay days especially if he beats McGregor again.. It's all about big paydays for Nate Diaz at this point.. If he loses he won't get the monster paydays most likely other then a possible but not promised 3rd rematch with McGregor..

Not sure what to take out of that interview though???.. Sounds like Nate being Nate.. Dude can't sit still in an interview, looks around constantly like he's paranoid or something.. I don't think he's gonna throw the fight though..

This is Nate's time and he's been waiting his entire life to reach this point of big pay days.. I don't see him wanting to blow it now.. The way he talks though makes me think he's getting burnt in the sport.. It happens at age 30 + especially when you've been at it that long, we saw it happen with GSP.. We could see him retire win or lose shortly.. If he does retire in the near future it won't last long though as the man has bills to pay and will be back in the cage within a couple years is my guess...

I'd bet he doesn't have enough money saved and invested yet to just quit MMA right now.. Even if he's got a couple million in the bank after these last 2 big fights...You need checks to be coming in or you still go broke in time.. House, car payments, women, supporting family or friends, cost of current life style and other bills stack up in a hurry..

He's gonna have to continue to fight whether he likes it or not.. Same with big brother Nick..

[JIBBBY]

Garbrandt is -600 GTFO!!! Either No bet or go w the jap.

Can't bet that straight I agree, can still go with the props though.. Odds on ITD and KO props are still very doable..

If you wanna take a chance and gamble the 1st round prop pays out at +180... 6 of Cody's 9 wins have come in the first round and by way of KO.. His last 2 wins both 1st round KO's as well..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Cody-Garbrandt-50381

1509 Garbrandt wins inside distance

-151

1533 Garbrandt wins by TKO/KO -135

1521 Garbrandt wins in round 1 +180

[Sato]

Nate doesnt strike me as somebody who spends big money all the time. I couldnt imagine Nate living a Floyd lifestyle. Hes got a long term girlfriend and from what Ive got from all of his interviews, the guy is probably ready to settle down.

[plekz]

in all the ways he's like his brother, he's also very different. pretty sure once he's retired he'll either open his own bjj school or he'll work for one of the big ones. so no, definetly not the ''big spender'' type. if anything what he's making he's saving to build something of his own.

[Ty$]

Im assuming cowboy/story goes to a decision. Being there both over +200 for the dec prop isn't the best bet to lay a unit on each decision?? Hugo check the math but as long as either hits that's a a guarantee unit. Correct ?

[Hugo de Naranja]

So this is a bit concerning for me, so how do you see this fight play out? Mcregors cardio will be on point, you also believe he can win a dec?

I think either fighter can definitely win a decision here.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Im assuming cowboy/story goes to a decision. Being there both over +200 for the dec prop isn't the best bet to lay a unit on each decision?? Hugo check the math but as long as either hits that's a a guarantee unit. Correct ?

Yeah if you had a unit on each it would be:
If Cerrone Decision (+210): 1u wins 2.1u - 1u on Story Decision = +1.1u profit
If Story Decision (+239): 1u wins 2.39u - 1u on Cerrone Decision = +1.39u profit

[PaperTrail07]

For a guy with shit cardio that likely loses round 2-3 if he does not finish....yes....I agree the decision is not a bad price...BUT look at round 1 +140 LOL...you think its gonna happen like that ? honestly?

+570 rumble decision isnt value???
i was kinda leaning glover thinking hed be a bigger underdog but the more tape i watch the more i like rumble here , he has the power over anybody, he actually has some really good technique behind his punches and kicks to even though hes a little stiff he brings a ton of explosiveness to make up for it and he has super underrated wrestling and in a 3 round fight i dont see him getting tired basically his only kryptonite ... glover trains at his own camp , doesnt even bring in anybody really to train or spar from what ive seen , rumble has the much better camp by a landslide . Glover is also very very tough so its gonna be hard to finish him so i could definitely see johnson getting a decision win id be more scared of him getting the tko/ko then glover winning tbh , but who knows glover is super tough and has power to knock anybody out as well but in a 3 rounder you gotta take rumble imo if it was 5 like it was supposed to be when they were slotted for a main event spot this fight would be much different

[xagonzx]

Yeah if you had a unit on each it would be:
If Cerrone Decision (+210): 1u wins 2.1u - 1u on Story Decision = +1.1u profit
If Story Decision (+239): 1u wins 2.39u - 1u on Cerrone Decision = +1.39u profit

Fight goes distance is (-150), so if you put 2 units you profit 1.33 if it hits. I would probably rather do that myself, to be honest.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Fight goes distance is (-150), so if you put 2 units you profit 1.33 if it hits. I would probably rather do that myself, to be honest.

Yup. That was one of my early plays for that fight.

[xagonzx]

Yup. That was one of my early plays for that fight.

Yup, a bit safer than the one unit on each. I was just pointing it out to TY$. You da man Hugo, always got a good eye.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Yup, a bit safer than the one unit on each. I was just pointing it out to TY$. You da man Hugo, always got a good eye.

Thanks bro

[JIBBBY]

Fight goes distance is (-150), so if you put 2 units you profit 1.33 if it hits. I would probably rather do that myself, to be honest.

Slight chance Cowboy can land a sub if the fight ever hits the ground... Also a slight chance Story can work the body, rock Cowboy and end the fight with strikes or a sub himself. Both not likely to happen though..

Chances are this fight does go the distance with Cowboy getting the nod... I highly doubt Rick Story can out strike, out point and or out work Cowboy in this fight over 3 rounds..

1211 Cerrone wins by 3 round decision

+210

Horror Story is a decision fighter these days... 5 of his last 6 fights have gone to decision...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Rick-Story-25989

[firekillex]

Tell me somebody just watched that press conference....

[plekz]

if you thought the headfck conor put on aldo was bad? watch this.

[BetweenHerCheeks]

Originally Posted by BetweenHerCheeks
Mcgregor hit Nate flush with two round houses and one huge kick in the same spot....NATE JUST LAUGHED AT HIM...wtf do you think Nate's gonna do to him with a full camp?

Hope they have an ambulance on site and a good trauma center nearby


5 bills on Nate...will wait right before fight when all of Connor's assplay brothers start pounding him

I LOVE this reasoning. You're right, Nate is unbeatable.

$500 more on McGregor.

You fuucking dumbass, Nate practically rolled outta bed a few days before the fight with no training and a gut and beat that Irish kunt into submission. Nate's gonna kill him with a camp.

[JIBBBY]

Watching now.. McGregor a no show but finally walks in.. Kinda disrespectful, Nate walks out early and returns the favor....

Next we have a water bottle throwing contest.. Nate is lucky he didn't hit Rumble with that first bottle throw and piss him off.. Would be a brother beat down..

It's on... Nate looks like he ain't gonna roll over in this fight at all.. IT'S ON AND POPPING NOW!!!

WAR DIAZ!!! You can't get in Nate's head because they already fought and he knows what to expect.. This is all fun and games..

[Sato]

That conference needed that riot. The UFC has too much press scheduled. THat was great!

[brooks85]

someone should have stepped in the way of one of those monster cans conor threw across the room

[JIBBBY]

someone should have stepped in the way of one of those monster cans conor threw

True, a law suit waiting to happen. Take one in the head and get carried out on a stretcher your probably looking at a six figure payday from the UFC lawyers to settle....

Dana tried saying stop but he's a big pussy... All bark no bite...

[Demonata]

McGregor better not have thrown out his arm throwing the water bottles lol

[Sato]

True, a law suit waiting to happen. Take one in the head and get carried out on a stretcher your probably looking at a six figure payday from the UFC lawyers to settle....

Dana tried saying stop but he's a big pussy... All bark no bite...

Tried? He said:"Dont throw those penetrating cans Connor CONNOR!". Yeah well you cant control emotional fighters. These conferences with these freakshow media guys are dull as hell. The arena isnt sold out so they needed a little stunt. 3 days left...

[HurlSweatPants]

That presser was bananas.

[KushMoney]

Why is everyone picking Nate?

Connor will win this.

There will be a lot of blood.

Instead of gassing out and losing Connor will stay fresh and hit Nate on his wound above his eye.

Connor has to win this, Nate doesn't.

Nate will beat himself.

Connor TKO doc stoppage.

Bring on the hate.