UFC Fight Night: Overeem vs. Arlovski (May 08, 2016)

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  • mirinquads
    SBR MVP
    • 04-22-13
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    #106
    Originally posted by bjpenn85
    Undefeated means that you havent fought anyone. You sound like being undefeated makes you more legit. Youre a crazy bastard sometimes jibby.
    It does not make you more legit necessarily, but a fighter who has never tasted defeat can be more confident thus harder to beat. Will likely affect his fight style also.
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83693

      #107
      This event airs early on Sunday morning out here on the west coast.. 7:30 AM early prelims start time.. That kinda sucks!! ...



      So much for getting lit and enjoying MMA on a Saturday night while winning money at the same time.. http://www.ufc.com/

      We have Invicta FC tomorrow night but I'm not gonna mess around with that.. I don't know these chicks at all... Oh well... I'll tail you guys for small if ya start a thread and can come up with any plays..
      Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-06-16, 10:17 AM.
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      • PaperTrail07
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-29-08
        • 20423

        #108
        I love it on the East Coast.......but yeah Horrible on the WC lol....I agree BJ....guy is undefeated fighting bums...congrats...
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        This event airs early on Sunday morning out here on the west coast.. 7:30 AM early prelims start time.. That kinda sucks!! ...



        So much for getting lit and enjoying MMA on a Saturday night while winning money at the same time.. http://www.ufc.com/

        We have Invicta FC tomorrow night but I'm not gonna mess around with that.. I don't know these chicks at all... Oh well... I'll tail you guys for small if ya start a thread and can come up with any plays..
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        • bjpenn85
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          • 02-17-11
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          #109
          Originally posted by mirinquads
          It does not make you more legit necessarily, but a fighter who has never tasted defeat can be more confident thus harder to beat. Will likely affect his fight style also.
          I hear people say that. It may also work in reverse. Believing you are invincible may also slow progress. In MMA you can have a bunch of losses your whole career, while building every bits and pieces too a giant masterpiece. And then booom at 30 youre crazy good and become champion. Good luck trying that in other individual sports. Its a rare but damn fine sport!!
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          • PaperTrail07
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            • 08-29-08
            • 20423

            #110
            May also convince you that you can eat a right hand to give one then you wake up later lol
            Originally posted by bjpenn85
            I hear people say that. It may also work in reverse. Believing you are invincible may also slow progress. In MMA you can have a bunch of losses your whole career, while building every bits and pieces too a giant masterpiece. And then booom at 30 youre crazy good and become champion. Good luck trying that in other individual sports. Its a rare but damn fine sport!!
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            • Thrilla
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              • 03-10-15
              • 13809

              #111
              Jibbby are you betting against Josh Emmet or against Joshknows46 Emmet? hmmm..... interesting. We might have a biased bet goin on here.
              Last edited by Thrilla; 05-06-16, 06:18 PM.
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              • Squareguy
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                • 12-30-10
                • 481

                #112
                I'm surprised to see so many people on Tumenov. I can't recall anyone who wanted to take him down other than his first fight in the UFC against a larger opponent (who took him down fairly easily). He overextends himself often and will leave himself open for takedowns. Tumenov will definitely outwork him if it stays standing, but I don't see him being patient enough with his strikes to avoid laying on his back. I'm going with Gunnar at +150 on bovada and another smaller bet on Gunnar by submission.
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                • bjpenn85
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                  • 02-17-11
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by Squareguy
                  I'm surprised to see so many people on Tumenov. I can't recall anyone who wanted to take him down other than his first fight in the UFC against a larger opponent (who took him down fairly easily). He overextends himself often and will leave himself open for takedowns. Tumenov will definitely outwork him if it stays standing, but I don't see him being patient enough with his strikes to avoid laying on his back. I'm going with Gunnar at +150 on bovada and another smaller bet on Gunnar by submission.
                  Do you think Nelson can consistently take him down? People with 80% takedown defence does very seldom get taken down to loose a decision. He can get the sub, if not hes done. Good luck taking tumenov down consistently, aaaaaand good luck outstricking tumenov. Nelso can win by sub, but consistently take someone with good tdd down? Look at the Rick Story fight. Maia easy, Nelson nevah.....So...yeah, good luck.
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                  • Deceptakhan
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 12-26-12
                    • 161

                    #114
                    one sloppy takedown could result in a finished fight quickly. Tumenov here.
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                    • Squareguy
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                      • 12-30-10
                      • 481

                      #115
                      I think his takedown defense is inflated from defending against gassed strikers. He defended two from a gassed out Larkin in the final moments of their fight and he defended ten from Musoke who actually won round 1 against Tumenov before significantly slowing down. He was taken down four times by the only grappler he faced, and I wouldn't say Alcantara is a takedown artist. I think Gunnar only needs one takedown to keep him down an entire round.
                      Last edited by Squareguy; 05-06-16, 10:46 PM.
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                      • JIBBBY
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-10-09
                        • 83693

                        #116
                        If ya think Gunnar Nelson can get Tumenov down then ya should play the sub prop.. I may still hedge with this.... I just really don't think Nelson can get the take downs and or hold him down.... Gunnar should lose and lose badly in this one..

                        1227 Nelson wins by submission <input id="editx" name="M1_62" size="4"> +405
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                        • bjpenn85
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                          • 02-17-11
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                          #117
                          Originally posted by Squareguy
                          I think his takedown defense is inflated from defending against gassed strikers. He defended two from a gassed out Larkin in the final moments of their fight and he defended ten from Musoke who actually won round 1 against Tumenov before significantly slowing down. He was taken down four times by the only grappler he faced, and I wouldn't say Alcantara is a takedown artist. I think Gunnar only needs one takedown to keep him down an entire round.
                          But it might only work in one round, most likely in round 1. After some time tumenov will find the right distance to box nelson. If Nelson can secure the sub, the fight is his. And you make some good point in regards to the likelyhood of that happening. Im not going to bet the fight, out of uncertainty.
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                          • Shagdogy
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                            • 06-16-10
                            • 3564

                            #118
                            So far I'm on Gates and Madadi. Gates is more powerful, and fighting at his usual weight. Sasaki doesn't have any power and he's dropping down 10 more pounds and on late notice. No thanks. Yes he is trouble on the ground but I'm thinking Gates will have enough strength to stay up.

                            Madadi is just a straight up wrestler. Never been subbed. I expect him to smother Cabral, lay on top for 15 mins and take a decision. Wrestler vs BJJ matchup and we get the wrestler (who has never been stopped) as the dog? Easy play. This is going to a decision most likely. Hard to see Cabral winning by dec from his back.
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                            • Snoman
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 03-18-16
                              • 194

                              #119
                              Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                              I love it on the East Coast.......but yeah Horrible on the WC lol....I agree BJ....guy is undefeated fighting bums...congrats...
                              Ooh, I like this time on a day off here on the EC. Set your alarm JIBS and get the coffee on
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                              • JIBBBY
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 12-10-09
                                • 83693

                                #120
                                ^^ You guys suck.. I hate this early morning crap ...

                                I may wake up late for this event. We see? I'll post pending before I crash tonight just in case..

                                See you fools cage side manyana!!!
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                                • siefer
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 07-22-15
                                  • 97

                                  #121
                                  any locks this card?
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                                  • Pinoy-T-X
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-28-12
                                    • 2176

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by siefer
                                    any locks this card?
                                    Parlay
                                    Canelo Alvarez
                                    Germaine De Randamie

                                    19 units to win 10 units
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                                    • Mxs1332
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-08-16
                                      • 661

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Pinoy-T-X
                                      Parlay
                                      Canelo Alvarez
                                      Germaine De Randamie

                                      19 units to win 10 units
                                      Same feeling. Ballsy play but 1 unit to win 5.35 units

                                      Pending 5 Team Parlay
                                      Pending 5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -490* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Amir Khan
                                      Pending 5/8/16 3:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Albert Tumenov -190* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Gunnar Nelson
                                      Pending 5/8/16 3:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Germaine de Randamie -400* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Anna Elmose
                                      Pending 5/8/16 4:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1009 Overeem wins inside distance -157* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Not Overeem inside distance
                                      Pending 5/8/16 4:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1109 Struve wins inside distance -145* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Not Struve inside distance
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                                      • Sanity Check
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 03-30-13
                                        • 10962

                                        #124
                                        -Aborts post-

                                        About 17 hours till UFC.

                                        Hope I'm awake to see it.

                                        zzZ zZ zZZZ
                                        Last edited by Sanity Check; 05-07-16, 04:42 PM.
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                                        • Pinoy-T-X
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-28-12
                                          • 2176

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by Mxs1332
                                          Same feeling. Ballsy play but 1 unit to win 5.35 units

                                          Pending 5 Team Parlay
                                          Pending 5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -490* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Amir Khan
                                          Pending 5/8/16 3:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Albert Tumenov -190* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Gunnar Nelson
                                          Pending 5/8/16 3:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Germaine de Randamie -400* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Anna Elmose
                                          Pending 5/8/16 4:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1009 Overeem wins inside distance -157* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Not Overeem inside distance
                                          Pending 5/8/16 4:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1109 Struve wins inside distance -145* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Not Struve inside distance

                                          Looks like a winner, good luck, bro.
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                                          • Hugo de Naranja
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-14-16
                                            • 14140

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Mxs1332
                                            Same feeling. Ballsy play but 1 unit to win 5.35 units

                                            Pending 5 Team Parlay
                                            Pending 5/7/16 11:00pm Boxing Fighting 602 Saul Alvarez -490* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Amir Khan
                                            Pending 5/8/16 3:30pm UFC Fighting 1202 Albert Tumenov -190* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Gunnar Nelson
                                            Pending 5/8/16 3:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 Germaine de Randamie -400* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Anna Elmose
                                            Pending 5/8/16 4:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1009 Overeem wins inside distance -157* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Not Overeem inside distance
                                            Pending 5/8/16 4:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1109 Struve wins inside distance -145* <small style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px;">vs</small> Not Struve inside distance
                                            Love this. Best of luck
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                                            • JIBBBY
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-10-09
                                              • 83693

                                              #127
                                              Ok fellas I'm going with these plays in the early fights.. Too busy to copy and paste. Played each for hundy or so.. Til morning gents... I'm out...



                                              Gates ITD +135

                                              Edwards TKO/KO +175,

                                              Hiraguchi by decision -130, Seary straight (hedge) +470

                                              Madidi +155

                                              Jon Tuck -155
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                                              • siefer
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 07-22-15
                                                • 97

                                                #128
                                                good luck jibby
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                                                • Snoman
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 03-18-16
                                                  • 194

                                                  #129
                                                  See ya in the morning peeps, let's get those coffee bucks.
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                                                  • Hugo de Naranja
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-14-16
                                                    • 14140

                                                    #130
                                                    My best guesses for this event:
                                                    Sasaki Rd 2 Sub
                                                    Edwards Unanimous Decision
                                                    Horiguchi Unanimous Decision
                                                    Madadi Split Decision
                                                    Tuck Unanimous Decision
                                                    Ceblenblad Rd 1 Sub
                                                    Wade Split Decision
                                                    Kowalkiewicz Unanimous Decision
                                                    Krylov Rd 1 KO
                                                    De Randamie Rd 2 TKO
                                                    Tumenov Unanimous Decision
                                                    Struve Rd 1 TKO
                                                    Overeem Rd 2 KO
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                                                    • Ultimatemeatball
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-03-16
                                                      • 131

                                                      #131
                                                      I'm looking forward to the card in just a few hours.
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                                                      • getlucky2win
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-14-12
                                                        • 1119

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                        Ok fellas I'm going with these plays in the early fights.. Too busy to copy and paste. Played each for hundy or so.. Til morning gents... I'm out...



                                                        Gates ITD +135

                                                        Edwards TKO/KO +175,

                                                        Hiraguchi by decision -130, Seary straight (hedge) +470
                                                        great bet by the hedge master/ prop king
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                                                        • mirinquads
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-22-13
                                                          • 3927

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by getlucky2win
                                                          great bet by the hedge master/ prop king
                                                          Lol
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                                                          • JIBBBY
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 83693

                                                            #134
                                                            Rude awakenings!!! Better be worth it..

                                                            Don't laugh Miri, SBR is where miracles happen!!!!

                                                            Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-08-16, 09:23 AM.
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                                                            • Unwritten Law
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-31-13
                                                              • 2532

                                                              #135
                                                              Let's get it! Late for me here. Have most of the favs. Horiguchi, Edwards, Cedenblad, De Randamie, Struve.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 12-10-09
                                                                • 83693

                                                                #136
                                                                Gotta go with the brother over the Asian in this first fight.. Let's get this Gates to start the ball rolling.. Gates ITD, and two team parlay'd with Edwards..

                                                                UFC Fight Pass Early Prelims



                                                                Ulka
                                                                Sasaki
                                                                vs
                                                                Willie
                                                                Gates
                                                                "Whoop Ass"

                                                                JAPAN
                                                                Country
                                                                USA

                                                                18-3-2
                                                                Record
                                                                12-6-0

                                                                11%
                                                                KO/TKO
                                                                50%

                                                                50%
                                                                SUB
                                                                25%

                                                                39%
                                                                DEC
                                                                25%

                                                                70 in
                                                                Height
                                                                68 in

                                                                125 lbs
                                                                Weight
                                                                125 lbs

                                                                71 in
                                                                Reach
                                                                70 in

                                                                42 in
                                                                Leg Reach
                                                                39 in
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                                                                • JIBBBY
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-10-09
                                                                  • 83693

                                                                  #137
                                                                  $100.00 $130.00 Pending 5/8/16 10:30am MMA Props Fighting 2209 Gates wins inside distance +130* <small>vs</small> Not Gates inside distance

                                                                  Ulka Susaki does have a chance at a sub here.. I'm getting greedy in this fight and not hedging when I probably should..

                                                                  2227 Sasaki wins by submission <input id="radiox" value="M1_261" name="radiox" type="radio">+180
                                                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 05-08-16, 09:38 AM.
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                                                                  • Sanity Check
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 03-30-13
                                                                    • 10962

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Yuta Sasaki will need to have improved a lot to have a chance here.
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                                                                    • spurginobili
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 05-09-09
                                                                      • 3065

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Have Gates here
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                                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                                        • 83693

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Well Gates couldn't stop the TD's and keep this a striking match, fock me in this first fight.. Going back to sleep lol...

                                                                        Should have hedged... Damn!!!
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