UFC Fight Night: Silva vs. Bisping(February 27, 2016)

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  • JoshKnows46
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    #106
    I really think itd is safe, bisping is a prideful person, and u have to think that after 2 rounds he will be tired of getting punked and chased around the octagon in london, with anderson screaming lets go and calling him in, I mean eventually he will have to get in range and take some risks, anderson still has the fast twitch muscles firing and Bisping won't have the quickness advantage as he usually has, leites was even tagging him and he doesn't have near the quickness in his counters that anderson does. All the talk bisping has been spewing about retiring anderson, I believe we could very well hear bisping say he retires after finally getting the fight he wanted against the GOAT in his home country, I honesty wish I could get a prop on this being bispings last fight.
    Last edited by JoshKnows46; 02-22-16, 11:21 PM.
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    • JIBBBY
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      #107
      I'll tell ya another thing.

      If by chance Bisping can take down Silva we all remember Anderson Silva elbowing the shit out of Chael Sonnens head and face off his back.. He's brutal with those elbows from bottom position.. I'm sure Bisping is aware of that.. I'm also sure Bisping doesn't want to get his head and face wrecked laying in top position but we'll see..

      He beat up Chael off his back before sinking in the triangle then armbar transition years ago anyways.. Elbow strikes were brutal.. I always thought that had something to do with the rematch quick exit from Chael.. Didn't want to take those elbows again.. Took the easier out standing and quick payday exit..

      Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-23-16, 12:11 AM.
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      • JIBBBY
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        #108
        Originally posted by JoshKnows46
        I honesty wish I could get a prop on this being bispings last fight.
        Right lol.. No telling what the odds would be on that?

        Bisping does believe he's going after the belt like his friends already have on the UFC tonight show.. DC and Cruz.. Not gonna happen though in his life time.. I'm pretty sure DC and Cruz know that too..

        They should have futures on that.. They have politics, food eating contests and WWE why not this...
        Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-22-16, 11:37 PM.
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        • JC2008
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          #109
          I can get Anderson by KO/TKO/DQ -154 on Bet365 so I will probably roll with that and parlay the ML with Rivera. Literally all Bisping can probably do is somehow get on top of Silva and lay on him but the odds of that happening for an extended period of time is low to say the least...

          Silva to win in round 1 is +250, the same as Cerrone was last night. There's a good chance Anderson blows him out in the first round.
          Last edited by JC2008; 02-22-16, 11:35 PM.
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          • JIBBBY
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            #110
            Originally posted by JC2008
            I can get Anderson by KO/TKO/DQ -154 on Bet365 so I will probably roll with that and parlay the ML with Rivera. Literally all Bisping can probably do is somehow get on top of Silva and lay on him but the odds of that happening for an extended period of time is low to say the least...
            Probably the Silva by KO prop is the smartest prop to play out of them all if you must for value.. I'll probably hit that as well when all is said and done...

            5dimes +105 Silva by Ko prop...
            Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-22-16, 11:37 PM.
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            • JC2008
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              #111
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              Probably the Silva KO prop is the smartest prop to play out of them all if you must for value.. I'll probably hit that as well when all is said and done...

              5dimes +105 Silva by Ko prop...
              The over 2.5 is -138 and under is +110... Should be pretty easy to hedge on this. Probably value on the under 2.5.

              That KO prop likely hits but he could submit him too!
              Last edited by JC2008; 02-22-16, 11:42 PM.
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              • Killer_Demo
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                #112
                Remember this fight is in bisping back yard. If it happens to go the distance, i could see bisping getting a gift-decision from the judges. We all seen robberies with judging. So factor that into your handicapping
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                • JIBBBY
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                  #113
                  Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                  Remember this fight is in bisping back yard. If it happens to go the distance, i could see bisping getting a gift-decision from the judges. We all seen robberies with judging. So factor that into your handicapping
                  Good point killa never took that into consideration..

                  Still not sure it's gonna make a difference though.. Anderson Silva has been a road warrior his entire career fighting outside of Brazil.. May not get to the judges but we'll see.
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                  • Vaughany
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                    #114
                    Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                    Looks like he's holding in his gut and good lighting, but better than what i saw. check out strikelands twitter page and the open workout pictures.
                    1min 35secs!...
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                    • PaperTrail07
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                      #115
                      Good Point....Rather than try and get up he pulls guard and is OK with being on his back.....I guess its a gameplan thing....moos should circle out....but if he ties up with leites he could gets swept for sure...being a 3 rounder I guess gives him a better chance of winning...
                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                      Nah.

                      Leites can win on the ground where most of Moose wins have come lately. And Mousasi just complacent as penetrate in there. It's a shame, because when he's on he's one of the best fighters in the world. Think this goes the distance 75/80% of the time with Leites the winner at least 40%.

                      If pre-Weidman Anderson, or even remotely him, shows up, Bisping is obviously going to get brained. But even in the second fight against Weidman, it was like he lost all confidence and ability. He applied the thaiclinch wrong, tried to knee when off balance, and got dropped for it. Didn't pull the trigger in a tailor made matchup against Diaz. He's been looking bad. Almost 40, coming off PED's. I'm not confident in him getting the KO. Good chance it's one of those fights where you can see what the end result will be early though. - I think it likely goes long. Bisping will fight scared.
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                      • PaperTrail07
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                        #116
                        Silva/Bis will go all 5 rounds OR bis wins by TKO....there is no power on either side...Bis can hit and run better than Jon Jones ...little hometown love......"THE COUNT"....lol wouldnt suprise me...
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                        • JC2008
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                          #117
                          Anyone looking to LIVE bet Anderson at a better number?
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                          • JIBBBY
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                            #118
                            Originally posted by JC2008
                            Anyone looking to LIVE bet Anderson at a better number?
                            I certainly will..
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                            • JoshKnows46
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                              #119
                              Originally posted by JC2008
                              Anyone looking to LIVE bet Anderson at a better number?
                              Can't see bisping winning a round, but if you get a better number, then bet it.
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                              • bjpenn85
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                                #120
                                Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                Can't see bisping winning a round, but if you get a better number, then bet it.

                                Why then so small bet on silva, didnt you bet like 300 dollars excluded the props on him? Why not go like 3000 dollar or something similiar like normal?
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                                • JoshKnows46
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                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                  Why then so small bet on silva, didnt you bet like 300 dollars excluded the props on him? Why not go like 3000 dollar or something similiar like normal?
                                  Because of question marks, roids, layoff, and fighting in enemy territory that could affect the way the judges see the rounds, if it was to make the distance. I'm also on him 100 in the distance, and him finishing in 3rd 4th or 5th. Also on the over 2.5.
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                                  • JoshKnows46
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                                    #122
                                    Also my love for Silva and hate for bisping, I don't want to be overall involved financially in a fight I'm emotionally attached to the result.
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                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                      #123
                                      Your god damn right it will LOL...the lack of PED's...inactivity...ies BIS more of a cance than ever....
                                      Originally posted by JoshKnows46
                                      Because of question marks, roids, layoff, and fighting in enemy territory that could affect the way the judges see the rounds, if it was to make the distance. I'm also on him 100 in the distance, and him finishing in 3rd 4th or 5th. Also on the over 2.5.
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                                      • JoshKnows46
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                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                        Your god damn right it will LOL...the lack of PED's...inactivity...ies BIS more of a cance than ever....
                                        It wont make the distance, but it's a reason not to go heavy on the negative 310.
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                                        • JoshKnows46
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                                          #125
                                          Anderson goes into neo mode starting in the 3rd, It'll be finished soon after, bisping hasn't nothing for anderson.
                                          Last edited by JoshKnows46; 02-23-16, 03:46 PM.
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                                          • PaperTrail07
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                                            #126
                                            well Leites opened at +255 for me Kinda shitty....BUT jumping on it NOW.....+220 like we thought seems like where it will end up....quicker you can bet him the better IMO.....suprised silva opened at -290 as well......does not appear BIS will get near +300 like I wanted...at +240 your on crack taking BIS IMO....that line to me also says take Silva NOW...Am I off here?
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                                            • PaperTrail07
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                                              #127
                                              #1) MMA Fighting
                                              Selection : A. Silva 2/27/2016 1:00PM - (PST) Money Line -290 for Game

                                              #2) MMA Fighting
                                              Selection : T. Leites 2/27/2016 1:00PM - (PST) Money Line +255 for Game

                                              #3) MMA Fighting
                                              Selection : F. Rivera 2/27/2016 1:00PM - (PST) Money Line -205 for Game

                                              Risking : 250.00 To Win : 1,525.75 USD
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                                              • PaperTrail07
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                                                #128
                                                This to me also seems like an amazing bet....O 2½ -140 SILVAVS BIS......will cruise int he 3rd IMO...
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                                                • JoshKnows46
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                  This to me also seems like an amazing bet....O 2½ -140 SILVAVS BIS......will cruise int he 3rd IMO...
                                                  I bet it at the same price, also have anderson finish in the 3rd, 4th and 5th
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                                                  • JoshKnows46
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                                                    #130
                                                    Late 2nd is usually when bisping gets going as well. I just need him to survive till the 3rd. Anderson didn't get going until the 3rd his last fight as well.
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                                                    • PaperTrail07
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                                                      #131
                                                      Good Stuff.....I see that being -160-180 by fight time....$$$$$$$$$$
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                                        #1) MMA Fighting
                                                        Selection : A. Silva 2/27/2016 1:00PM - (PST) Money Line -290 for Game

                                                        #2) MMA Fighting
                                                        Selection : T. Leites 2/27/2016 1:00PM - (PST) Money Line +255 for Game

                                                        #3) MMA Fighting
                                                        Selection : F. Rivera 2/27/2016 1:00PM - (PST) Money Line -205 for Game

                                                        Risking : 250.00 To Win : 1,525.75 USD
                                                        Good luck Paper, while I do love Rivera and Silva, Lietes is a tough sell for me... Too slow, too flat footed standing and his gas tank is sometimes questionable.

                                                        I'm hitting Mousasi myself.. Dude is gonna light up Lietes standing over 3 rounds watch... Mousasi will survive the ground... Mousasi by decision...

                                                        Odds were +105 yesterday for this prop and dropped.. Had to hit this now before it gets worse..

                                                        $199.50 $190.00 Pending 2/27/16 6:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1111 Mousasi wins by 3 round decision -105* <small>vs</small> Not Mousasi by 3 round decision
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          #133
                                                          Event write ups and predictions coming in... Good reads for basic info....

                                                          MMAmania prelims part 1 - http://www.mmamania.com/2016/2/22/11...ing-london-mma

                                                          Bleacher report burning questions - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...fight-night-84


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                                                          A fight I'm looking at is this big odds on favorite Tom Breese... Hmmm?

                                                          <small>UFC Fight Night 84 - Welterweight 3 rounds - The O2 Arena, London, United Kingdom - UFC Fight Pass</small>
                                                          Sat 2/27 1201 Keita Nakamura <input id="radiox" value="M1_2" name="radiox" type="radio">+700 <input id="radiox" value="L1_2" name="radiox" type="radio">o1½ +120
                                                          5:00PM 1202 Tom Breese <input id="radiox" value="M2_2" name="radiox" type="radio">-1100 <input id="radiox" value="L2_2" name="radiox" type="radio">u1½ -150

                                                          Tom Breese 9-0 is the -1100 favorite coming in against this Asian dude Nakamura 31-6.. Tom Breese should win fighting in his home Country but you gotta wonder is he that good?... English man Tom Breese does have 2 straight KO wins in the UFC and his last KO win was against Cathedral whom is slow and methodical but durable.. Before that a questionable UFC can in Luiz Jorge (just 1-2 since entering into the UFC)..

                                                          Undefeated Tom Breese really hasn't fought anyone great yet is what I'm getting at but neither has Nakamura... He's got the power to knock out Nakamura though for sure...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Tom-Breese-45986

                                                          Nakamura is pretty slick on the ground with 17 wins coming by way of sub.. Mostly to bums in Japan but still impressive though... He's got some stand up skills from what I've seen on vid and isn't totally lost... If by chance this fight gets to the ground Nak could lock in something maybe.. Huge if!!! I'll play this for 10 bucks anyways just for giggles and kicks..

                                                          $10.00 $137.50 Pending 2/27/16 5:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1227 Nakamura wins by submission +1375* <small>vs</small> Any other result

                                                          Most likely Tom Breese wins this fight but Nakamura has only been KO'd and Sub'd out one time each in 37 pro fights.. That's impressive stats even for fighting mainly just in Japan..http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Keita-Nakamura-9572 Went to 4 decisions losses so this prop below might just work for the odds.. Need to watch more vids but I'm entertaining this prop below as Nakamura is not just going to lay down in this one I believe.. More to come..

                                                          1211 Breese wins by 3 round decision <input id="radiox" value="M1_54" name="radiox" type="radio">+362
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            #134
                                                            ^^^Just typing out my thoughts as I go capping this fight..

                                                            Just found this write up on the Tom Breese fight.. Pretty much saying what I typed above...

                                                            Yep going with the Breese by decision prop..

                                                            http://www.mmamania.com/2016/2/23/11094158/ufc-fight-night-84-fight-card-tom-breese-vs-keita-nakamura-full-fight-preview-london-mma

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                                                            Tom
                                                            Breese
                                                            vs
                                                            Keita
                                                            Nakamura
                                                            "K-Taro"

                                                            ENGLAND
                                                            Country
                                                            JAPAN

                                                            9-0-0
                                                            Record
                                                            31-6-2, 1NC
                                                            Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-23-16, 10:28 PM.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              #135
                                                              Going with the decision prop for a benny as my main play..

                                                              $100.00 $362.00 Pending 2/27/16 5:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1211 Breese wins by 3 round decision +362* <small>vs</small> Not Breese by 3 round decision
                                                              Will hedge only my initial investment with this for now..

                                                              $115.00 $100.00 Pending 2/27/16 5:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1221 Breese wins in round 1 -115* <small>vs</small> Any other result

                                                              Done capping this fight, 3 bets in.. Hoping to hit the Decision prop and walk away winning $235 while risking $225...

                                                              I threw another 10 bucks down on the Nak Sub to make that just another full hedge play to cover all my bets..

                                                              $10.00 $137.50 Pending 2/27/16 5:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1227 Nakamura wins by submission +1375* <small>vs</small> Any other result
                                                              Risking $235 now to win $235 with all 4 bets ins..
                                                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-23-16, 09:23 PM.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                #136
                                                                Going with Rivera by KO at +160.

                                                                The dude pretty much only wins his fights by KO lately, no sub wins anyways on his record. Pickett will be standing there to be hit in this one at some point I believe.. Rivera has power... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Francisco-Rivera-11908

                                                                I know both these guys well, Pickett is kinda washed up if you ask me, a journeyman now but a bit of a bruiser and reasonably well rounded... Rivera is still relevant in the UFC and really brings it.. This guy can knock your head off.. Plus Josh likes him to win as well ITD which confirms my thinking.....

                                                                Everything points to Rivera for the win I'm just hoping not by decision.... Odds are a bit to heavy on the straight -220 for my taste.. Besides this fight does go down in Picketts back yard so that makes me just a little nervous.. No hedge on this one.. Just a $100 riding that's it..


                                                                $100.00 $160.00 Pending 2/27/16 4:30pm MMA Props Fighting 1329 Rivera wins by TKO/KO +160* <small>vs</small> Any other result



                                                                Francisco
                                                                Rivera
                                                                "Cisco"
                                                                vs
                                                                Brad
                                                                Pickett
                                                                "One Punch"

                                                                USA
                                                                Country
                                                                ENGLAND

                                                                11-5-0, 1NC
                                                                Record
                                                                25-11-0
                                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-23-16, 11:01 PM.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Jotko by decision +140...

                                                                  <small>UFC Fight Night 84 - Middleweight 3 rounds - The O2 Arena - London, United Kingdom - UFC Fight Pass</small>
                                                                  Sat 2/27 1801 Krzysztof Jotko <input id="radiox" value="M1_8" name="radiox" type="radio">-160 <input id="radiox" value="L1_8" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -185
                                                                  2:00PM 1802 Brad Scott <input id="radiox" value="M2_8" name="radiox" type="radio">+140 <input id="radiox" value="L2_8" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ +155

                                                                  This write up on MMAmania about sums up all my thoughts on this fight after capping it just now.. Rather then explain why Jotko by decision just read this.. This writer is on it if you ask me.. I do not agree with his unanimous decision prediction though.. Scott is fighting in his own back yard and Jotko is not.. Could play into one of the judges hand...

                                                                  (Copy and paste)

                                                                  185 lbs.: Brad Scott (10-3) vs. Krzysztof Jotko (16-1)

                                                                  Scott reached the finals of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF): "Smashes" welterweight tournament before dropping a decision to Australia's Brad Whittaker. He's since gone 2-1, choking out Dylan Andrews last May in his most recent effort. His 10 wins are split between knockouts and submissions.


                                                                  After a decision over Bruno Santos in his promotional debut, Jotko suffered his first career defeat at the hands of Sweden's Magnus Cedenblad in Berlin. He's since won consecutive decisions over Tor Troeng and Scott Askham in Sweden and Dublin, respectively. 10 of his wins and each of his last five have come by decision.


                                                                  Krzysztof Jotko is not a man you turn to when on the hunt for an all-action scrap, but he's good at what he does: grinding the bejeezus out of people. His size, strength, and top game make him damn near impossible to shake off once he's got a grip on you. Scott simply does not have the sort of defensive grappling to get anything going against him.

                                                                  Jotko's predictability and limited skillset aren't an issue against someone who knows exactly what's coming but doesn't have the means to stop it. Expect a three-round wrestlefest that ends in a Polish victory.

                                                                  Prediction: Jotko by unanimous decision




                                                                  $100.00 $141.00 Pending 2/27/16 2:00pm MMA Props Fighting 1807 Jotko wins by 3 round decision +141* <small>vs</small> Not Jotko by 3 round decision
                                                                  I'm done capping for tonight... Sorry if I bored ya...

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                                                                  Bradley
                                                                  Scott
                                                                  "Bear"
                                                                  vs
                                                                  Krzysztof
                                                                  Jotko

                                                                  ENGLAND
                                                                  Country
                                                                  POLAND

                                                                  10-3-0
                                                                  Record
                                                                  16-1-0
                                                                  Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-23-16, 11:28 PM.
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                                                                  • JoshKnows46
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                                                                    #138
                                                                    Good bets so far jibby, heads in the right place on those props, but make sure you have some straight wagers as well on those guys.
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                                                                    • JoshKnows46
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Breese fight won't make the distance however, that's likely finished in the first, early 2nd round at the latest.
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                                                                      • TPowell
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                                                                        #140
                                                                        Thoughts on the Rustam/Parke fight? I think Rustam rebounds big here and Parkes takedown defense is way overrated
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