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His movement is good enough to beat the russian hammer---hammer just walks foward...mix in a takedown or 2 and this thing is in the bagComment -
SOmebody talk me out of putting my lottery ticket money on Alex Nicholson at +600. I read an article where he was taken down 4 times in the first round in his last fight but managed to get the KO towards the end of the 1st round. Misha will probably GnP him to deathComment -
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UFC Fight Night 82's Josh 'Senior Citizen' Burkman ready to become newest Lightweight title contender
By Brad Popkin
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Josh Burkman epitomizes a true warrior. The veteran of 40 professional mixed martial arts (MMA) fights will go out on his sword and give fans a show before the final bell sounds.
However, a downhill start to his second stint with Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) has Burkman altering his trajectory as the long-time Welterweight will start anew in 2016 in the Lightweight division. It was all his choice and "The People's Warrior" received no pressure from his boss, UFC President Dana White.
"Dana's cool. He told me after my fight with [Patrick] Cote. I lost three-in-a-row and he just hit me up and said, 'Hey, don't worry about your job. You never disappoint me and we don't cut fighters like you'," Burkman told MMAmania.
The Utah native previously won six of seven outside of ZUFFA, but his success in World Series of Fighting (WSOF) didn't seem to follow. Burkman, 35, has thought of shedding the extra 15 pounds to make the 156-pound limit for years and told White as much during their phone conversation.
It's been brewing as he's been continued to lose the strength advantage each time out, starting with former Bellator Middleweight champion Hector Lombard back in Jan. 2015 all the way through to his (technical) knockout loss at the hands of "The Predator," who's also an ex-middleweight, last August.
Fighting as consistently as Burkman has for several years in-a-row will also play a part in how one performs on fight night.
"When I look back on it all, 2015 will have been the toughest year of my career. That fight with Hector; I had a rib injury that ended up being a herniated disc," Burkman recalled. "I took the fight with [Dong Hyun] Kim too soon. I went back into training and the rib acted up again, causing me issues all through that camp."
Prior to his fight with "Stun Gun," it was Burkman's family who were suffering with bronchitis, not to mention his wife was expecting the birth of the couple's second child.
Burkman was at his healthiest prior to the Cote tussle, which was a fight that the American was very much in until he got caught with a counter right hand during the final round of their bout in Canada. It caused him to take a good, hard look in the mirror.
"It made me take a look at where I'm at and where I want to go," Burkman said.
The next few months were mostly spent with his family in Utah. Burkman went out to Hawaii for roughly two weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas in order to get some quality training in.
He would admit during our conversation that the main difference between his current stint with UFC and his first one that began in Nov. 2005 right after The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) season 2 was that he was a bit more reckless 10 years ago.
It's an answer that many might expect to come from your average 35-year-old male, but the former college football player has become much more disciplined in all facets of his life, which now includes his diet.
"I think I'm a natural Lightweight," Burkman said.
December is when he found out he would meet Strikeforce veteran K.J. Noons in his first outing at 155 pounds at UFC Fight Night 82 this Saturday night (Feb. 6, 2016). The 33-year-old Karate specialist has underachieved, similar to Burkman, during his UFC career, having put together a 2-2-(1) record.
With that being said, it's a far cry away from his struggles in Strikeforce, but don't let numbers be an indicator. Noons can send you packing quickly.
"I think K.J. Noons is a real good fighter ... a dangerous fighter, but if I come out and perform like I can and like I should then I think come February, everybody is going to realize real fast will realize there's a new contender in the Lightweight division," Burkman emphasized.
It's a new year and a new opportunity to make some noise in a completely different weight class. Burkman enters one of the most talented divisions in all of UFC, but he wouldn't have it any other way.
He's still out to prove he's a top-tier fighter more than 12 years into his career ... even in his advanced fighting age.
"They sent me -- I turned 35 -- I have to get comprehensive testing now where I have get an extra chest x-ray and an EKG. It made me laugh," Burkman remembered. "I was like I can't believe I'm the senior citizen of the UFC. I love what I do and how I approach the sport."Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-02-16, 06:44 PM.Comment -
The only man to KO KJ Noons is Charles Bennett... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Charles-Bennett-1575
Bottom line is if Josh Burkman decides to fight smart and take down Noons he'll probably win and most likely finish as well and blast right thru him especially if Noons is not trained up and looks sloppy at weigh ins.... If Josh doesn't go for the take downs and goes heads up standing like he normally does in fights to impress Dana White then KJ Noons is the better stand up fighter and boxer and should win on points round after round and maybe even KO Burkman. Still need to know if KJ Noons is trained up though and ready to go?.. I'll find out in the next few days...
I'm gonna play it safe though and it's probably gonna go like this - It's a sketchy fight to bet on either way right now.. I will at some point take the dog KJ Noons straight at +145 and that line might go higher come fight time so I'll wait til after weigh ins...
Thinking hedge with Josh B ITD already if the odds are favorable and I can win both ways.. Otherwise this fight is a pass for me...
I still need to find more info out on KJ Noons though.. Moving on done with this fight for now..Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-02-16, 11:00 PM.Comment -
same here, If Burkman looks good on his cut down to 155, I'll be on him. I think Noons had said multiple times he didn't want to go back to 155 for different reasons.Comment -
If burkman didn't have the fighter iq of miesha tate, I'd have 4500 on him, that's how lopsided this matchup is. This is the perfect stylistic matchup for burkman, if a part time fighter some how beats him, he's dead to me as far as betting goes. Should be a one sided beat down.Last edited by JoshKnows46; 02-02-16, 11:33 PM.Comment -
So you are basing a lot of this on the fact that Noons isn't fighting full time anymore? I think him coming back down to 155 is a recipe for disaster, but Burkman hasn't been there yet either so I hate backing a guy in a brand new weight class. The over was sounding good for a little bit, but their chins should be a little less than normal at 155. Some of the shots I've watched Burkman take tonight though, I think Noons will be hard pressed to KO him. That just leaves the decision on the table for him. I think Burkman could win this fight any way, but leaning towards a decisionComment -
If burkman takes him down early in the first round, it will be over in the 1st round by sub or tko by ref stoppage. Burkman would have to completly abandon his wrestling for noons to win a dec. Noons only path to victory is a ko. Only way it goes the distance is if burkman gets into a brawl and uses takedowns just to finish the rounds strong, it shouldn't go the distance imo but if burkman fights like a stupid caveman it could.Comment -
Not basing alot of this on him being half retired. Burkman has the power advantage, chin advantage, wrestling, subs, and experience advantage. Noons have terrible sub defense, burkman is slick on the ground. When any fighter even talks of retirement, it should be apart of your thought process. Noons has been terrible since 2010, most of his loses have come since then. Stand up is even, I give burkman a higher probability at a ko, a sub or a dec. look at the cote fight, burkman can stand and bang with the best, but the ground game provides him a huge advantage in this fight.its the perfect stylistic matchup and the perfect spot based off what we know, and as I mentioned if burkman wasn't a caveman and I could trust him to fight smart, this would be my most confident bet on the card. But he always seems to want to fight to his opps strengths, that's why I could only risk 5 units on him, thing is they are basically even in the stand up as well, so I'm not worried laying the number. Burkmans style of stand up match up well with noons, brawl a boxer, crazy horse style.Last edited by JoshKnows46; 02-03-16, 12:06 AM.Comment -
makes sense, watched the Borg/Herrera fight again and forgot how amazing it was. They both went to war on the ground (Borg had 12+ mins of top time). He didn't get the sub win but Herrera is a very good defensive grappler. Borg looked like a lightweight with his takedowns of Herrera. He is a freaky athlete who is as good on the ground as anyone in MMA IMO. Watching some Scoggins film now. With that goofy ass karate stance, I can see Borg catching him with takedowns at will and keeping him there with his superior athletic ability.Comment -
Borg is light years quicker than Sampo was. All those pretty front left side bullshit isn't going to be of much consequence when Borg gets in close and gets him down. They don't call the guy the Tazmexican for nothing. I'm still shocked after watching his fights how quick and powerful he is athletically on the ground, all while being so tenacious. I think by late in round 2 or round 3, Scoggins will throw the towel in and Borg will sub him. Could happen sooner thoughComment -
Yep Borg is the call but you will pay to play on that straight.... Borg is certainly parlay material me tinks though... Borg by decision or maybe even by submission is something to consider for better odds... http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Ray-Borg-84752
<small>UFC Fight Night 82 - Flyweight 3 rounds - MGM Grand Garden Arena - Las Vegas, Nevada - UFC Fight Pass</small> Sat 2/6 1801 Justin Scoggins <input id="radiox" value="M1_8" name="radiox" type="radio">+270 <input id="radiox" value="L1_8" name="radiox" type="radio">o2½ -170 8:30PM 1802 Ray Borg <input id="radiox" value="M2_8" name="radiox" type="radio">-330 <input id="radiox" value="L2_8" name="radiox" type="radio">u2½ +150 Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-03-16, 01:26 AM.Comment -
Love when matt brown asked him how connor's dick tasted when they were arguing about the dilly fight.... here are the tweets in case you missed it.
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Matt Brown spot on!! Lol...
It's gonna go like this - Wrong thread I know but so what..... Check before you wreck!!!
- RDA wins ITD (5 round fight)..... Better odds with the Submission prop if ya wanna gamble . RDA shoots and takes down Connor, slips in the rear naked after he takes his back.. McMouth taps....(slight chance RDA punishes McIrish instead, flattens him out and pounds him out also)
1009 Dos Anjos wins inside distance <input id="editx" name="M1_103" size="4"> +210 1039 Dos Anjos wins by submission <input id="editx" name="M1_118" size="4"> +475
- McGregor wins by KO (Only possible way he can beat RDA is by KO)..... 1st round finish if you believe again what he says...
1037 McGregor wins by TKO/KO <input id="editx" name="M1_117" size="4"> -105 1015 McGregor wins in round 1 <input id="editx" name="M1_106" size="4"> +180
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MMAmania Part 2 prelims - preview to fights..
170 lbs.: Josh Burkman vs. K.J. Noons
Josh Burkman (27-12) enjoyed an unexpected resurgence following his release from UFC, going 9-2 with wins over Jon Fitch, Aaron Simpson and Gerald Harris, among others, to earn another go in the Octagon. His second go-around has not been a fruitful one, however, as he is 0-2 (1 NC) with both losses coming via stoppage.
"People’s Warrior" has submitted 10 professional opponents and knocked out another seven.
K.J. Noons (13-8) broke a horrendous 1-5 stretch with consecutive wins over George Sotiropoulos and Sam Stout, the latter resulting in Stout’s first-ever knockout loss. "King" is winless since, following a "No Contest" against Daron Cruickshank with a one-sided loss to Alex Oliveira.
He has won nine fights via knockout, though just two since 2008.
This is one of those fights where I expect one guy to win, but would not be surprised at all if he found some way to bungle it up. Burkman should, by all accounts, dominate Noons. K.J. has looked great in all of one fight since 2011, maybe two if you’re generous about his fight with Ryan Couture. He’s also undersized for Welterweight and a non-entity on his back.
Burkman has the skills to overpower and batter Noons -- it just depends on where his head is. His fight IQ has been lacking recently, especially against Dong Hyun Kim, whom he managed to hurt multiple times, but decided to clinch with for some reason.
Noons isn’t that level of opponent, though, so expect a grinding decision or submission stoppage for "People’s Warrior."
Prediction: Burkman via unanimous decision
265 lbs.: Derrick Lewis vs. Damian Grabowski
Derrick Lewis (13-4) entered his Oct. 2014 showdown with Viktor Pesta with two knockout losses in his previous three fights. With his back against the wall, however, Lewis came through, surviving a pair of difficult rounds to dispatch the exhausted Czech with ground-and-pound in the third.
"Black Beast" owns 12 wins via form of knockout and the thirteenth by submission.
Damian Grabowski (20-2) joined Bellator as a competitor in its first-ever Heavyweight tournament, beating Scott Barrett before losing a decision to eventual winner Cole Konrad. He’s since gone 7-1 with wins over the likes of Eddie Sanchez, Stav Economou and Konstantin Gluhov, among others, and with the only loss coming to fellow UFC signee Marcin Tybura.
"Polish Pitbull" will give up two inches of height to the 6’3" Lewis.
Lewis has a bevy of obvious flaws in his game, from his lack of a jab to his questionable takedown defense, but he has one thing going for him that many other men his size lack: He carries his power late. He has surprisingly good cardio and excels at laying the hammer down once his opponent’s exhausted themselves trying to manhandle him.
It’s a pretty good skill to have against "Polish Pitbull."
Grabowski is a solid wrestler with an arsenal of submissions from top control. What he isn’t is smothering, and that’s what costs him here. Lewis only has to get on top once to end this, and he should get that opportunity sometime in the first two rounds.
Prediction: Lewis via second-round technical knockout
125 lbs.: Ray Borg vs. Justin Scoggins
Ray Borg (9-1) hopped right into the Flyweight deep end in his debut, a tooth-and-nail scrap with Dustin Ortiz that saw Borg lose a split decision. He’s since picked up three straight dominant victories, putting the 22-year-old on the cusp of contendership.
He is three inches shorter than the 5’7" Justin Scoggins (10-2).
American Top Team (ATT)-trained Scoggins roared out of the gate with seven stoppages in his first nine fights, only to drop consecutive bouts to Dustin Ortiz and John Moraga. Injury held him to one appearance in 2015, where he re-entered the win column by defeating former CFA champion Josh Sampo.
He owns six wins via knockout, including one by hook kick.
This one’s got major "Fight of the Night" potential -- both men are brilliant to watch and always chasing the finish. With a combined age of just 45, there’s a great chance that they’ll be elite for years to come.
At this point in their careers, I’m leaning toward Borg.
Scoggins is the better striker of the two and will enjoy a considerable edge in length, but I’m not convinced he can maintain distance here the way he did against Sampo. Borg has an excellent takedown game to complement his scrambling ability -- odds are he gets Scoggins to the floor at one point or another.
From there, he’s just too good. Expect him to snag a submission in transition late in the fight.
Prediction: Borg via third-round submission
145 lbs.: Noad Lahat vs. Diego Rivas
Israel’s Noad Lahat (9-1) hit a roadblock right out of the gate in his UFC career in the form of Godofredo "Pepey’s" flying knee, which handed him his first-ever loss. Subsequent fights saw him demonstrate his grit with tough wins over Steven Siler and Niklas Backstrom.
He has four professional wins via submission and another two by technical knockout.
Diego Rivas (6-0), competing as part of Team Werdum, lost to Gabriel Benitez via submission in the opening round of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF): "Latin America." Despite the loss, he got the chance to join UFC proper, where he defeated castmate Rodolfo Rubio Perez in Brazil.
This will be his first fight since Nov. 2014.
Lahat’s lack of high-level finishing ability limits his ceiling and he has a tendency to get in some pretty bad spots, but his grit and wrestling ability go a long way against the middle of the division. Fortunately, Rivas numbers among those ill-equipped to handle his style. The Chilean has little-to-no experience against strong opposition and is, by all accounts, due for an extremely bad time on the ground.
TUF: "Latin America" fighters have surprised us at times, but at least on paper, the question isn’t whether Rivas can win, but rather whether he can survive. I say he does -- Lahat dominates on the mat for 15 painful minutes.
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I think Josh is right, Burkman is the call even at -170.. Probably wins this fight on the ground..
I'm bailing out on KJ Noons officially, training part time just isn't gonna work in this one....
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On Burkman as well.....Lets cash it Fellas--Cote is twice the fighter of Noons and he did look good---he Rolls nOOnsComment -
There could be some value on Derrick Lewis... May take a stab at the KO or the ITD prop when it comes out...http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Derrick-Lewis-59284
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Pretty simple fight here. If Lewis can avoid getting taken down, he wins. Graboski is a very solid grappler, but isn't very athletic and even worse, has poor footwork. To add to that, he doesn't have one shot knockout power either. I'll have to do some studying on Lewis though. At most, this is a 2 or 3 unit play though. Too much randomness with these big slow penetratesComment -
To expand on that, Graboski is giving up 6 inches of reach and around 25 pounds to Lewis. I think Grabowski could sub Lewis on the ground potentially, but his footwork is so bad on the feet and he isn't particularly athletic either so I think Lewis should be able to tag him relatively early on in this fight. Lewis also doesn't really have to worry about getting clipped by him because he doesn't throw with a ton of power for a heavyweight and probably can't land a one punch stoppage. What I love most about Lewis is that he has a very good gas tank for a guy his size. In his last fight, his opponent hand him on the mat on top for probably 6-7 minutes in the first couple rounds and he still managed to finish the fight in the 3rd round after being stopped by the bell in the 2nd on top.Comment -
i thnk u are way off. i got grabowski at opener. but if thats wht u thnk then the not grabowski itd and ko line (when available) is wht u should betComment -
I think the Polish pit bull could win the striking battle, but I believe lewis should be able to take him down rather easily and pound him out. Lewis decides were the fight takes place, and I don't see Grabowski being able to sub the big guy from bottom. It's a good matchup however and the initial line of even money was accurate. Value is with lewis.Last edited by JoshKnows46; 02-03-16, 10:31 PM.Comment -
^Grab by sub or Lewis by KO.. Work the prop odds and win both ways when they come out... It's really just that simple, this isn't brain surgery.. I personally like Lewis to win in this one... Size advantage and punching power..
Work to the fighters strength on the hedge and bet accordingly.. Think about the other fighters weakness's too.. Don't do it with every fight because most fighters are well rounded but alot are not and can only win one way.. McGregor by KO is a good example of that.. Lewis by KO too. He's not gonna win a decision or probably sub someone out either..
Take the straights at plus odds and bet the prop the other way with that fighters most likely chance of winning.. Works out most of the time and then it really doesn't matter then which fighter wins the fights....
Don't get greedy and look to take the ITD props more then Sub or KO props especially when a fighter that you are hedging is some what well rounded....
Your ultimate goal should be to pick the fighter to win though... That takes the prop hedge plays out of the equation which is always the best angle..
The ultimate goal as gamblers is to always be winning.. Big or small..
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Have you seen lewis, he's more technical then lewis, lewis is wild and he Doesn't take a punch well, grabkowski has good dirty boxing. And knees from the clinch but lewis does have have the power advantage. Don't see it staying on the feet long though, lewis is too big for him, will push him against the fence, take him down and pound him out. If grabkowski could get top position, he could get a sub, but he's not subbing lewis from the bottom, and it only takes a couple of those big hammer fists and it's all over.Comment -
Why not just bet the under, if those are the only two possible outcomes you see. If you put 100 on each, your only looking at 40 to 60 profit, because the books see it the same way u do, might as well just bet the under.^Grab by sub or Lewis by KO.. Work the prop odds and win both ways... It's really just that simple, this isn't brain surgery.. I personally like Lewis to win in this one... Size advantage and punching power..
Work to the fighters strength on the hedge and bet accordingly.. Think about the other fighters weakness's too.. Don't do it with every fight because most fighters are well rounded but alot are not and only win one way.. McGregor by KO is a good example of that.. Lewis by KO too. He's not gonna win a decision or probably sub someone out either..
Take the straights at plus odds and bet the prop the other way with that fighters most likely chance of winning.. Works out most of the time and then it really doesn't matter then which fighter wins the fights....
Don't get greedy and look to take the ITD props more then Sub or KO props especially when a fighter that you are hedging is some what well rounded....
Your ultimate goal should be to pick the fighter to win though... That takes the prop hedge plays out of the equation which is always the best angle..
The ultimate goal as gamblers is to always be winning.. Big or small..Last edited by JoshKnows46; 02-03-16, 11:22 PM.Comment -
You can and should.. Forget the under 1.5 or 2.5 and play the prop fight ends ITD.. That can work too especially with the big boys.. The opposite goes with the smaller fighters.. You pay a price for the -odds though...
Hey but if you pick one fighter to win straight and the other on a prop hedge and it goes the distance you still win with that fighter you picked straight maybe.. That eliminates some risk if it does go to the cards...
Josh, I'll be honest years ago I was on fire and could just pick em like crazy like you can now.. So if I were you I wouldn't even mess with the hedge plays, stick to what is working and do your thang!!!.. Hedges and props can mess with your mojo.. I never messed with them in years past and still won.. Today I need to hedge..
I'm just not that confident in my picks these days even though I cap and read like crazy, but I'm just happy winning a little with the hedge plays when I can and not losing my arse and events.... I'm a grinder now.. Not exciting but if it works it works...
I still pick my spots though and don't hedge..Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-03-16, 11:50 PM.Comment -
I hedge, I just don't do it to win on both sides, that limits profit too much, I take a stand on one side, and use hedging as a means to cover my bet with what I see as the most likely outcome to go against my bet, the main event in this one is a good example. 900 on wonderboy to win 1890, with a hedge of Johnny by ko 200 to win 900. I see wonderboy winning by ko or dec, with johnnys only chance to win by ko. The fact that the oddsmakers disagree and they believe his most likely path to victory is dec, so it gave me a perfect set up the hedge with johnny by ko being over double the dec prob price. Hedging is good when your selective, not ever fight calls for a hedge, just my perceptive on it, but as they say if it ain't broke don't fix it. Everyone catches rough patches, I'm sure you'll bounce back and win huge this card.Comment -
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^^^Like I said Hendricks is trained up Locky.. His hair looked longer in the UFC interview though.. He may have got a trim...
JH looks to be eating right these days.. Still like Wonder Boy with is length and striking skills.. Probably goes the distance.. In that case I don't know who will win?? Especially if JH mixes in his wrestling.. I do think Wonder Boy wins the stand up battle though on points...
Great fight... I'm stoked to check.. I don't think it will be boring... Not with Wonder Boy...Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-04-16, 12:05 AM.Comment -
Yep can't argue that Joshster.. I hedge to cover my initial investment alot of the time also and pick a side like in my superbowl bet that TPOW talked me into... I do hedge to win both ways only when I'm a bit unsure and or see a solid angle both ways for profit..
I like to play the entire card which is my deal and I'm trying to tone that down.. I really enjoy being entertained watching the entire event and all fights though with action.
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