UFC 194: Aldo vs. McGregor (December 12, 2015)

**gizmo2431** · 12-13-15, 02:01 AM

For the record with all this fix talk... I am not saying McGregor couldn't win that fight, but that so called knockout punch did not look like a knockout punch. Aldo went down too easy for the angle and location of where that punch landed. I don't care who wins that fight as I watched for the enjoyment, but just saying it didn't look the caliber of a knockout.

In any event, can't wait to see what McGregor does next.

**Sanity Check** · 12-13-15, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by Unwritten Law

Lesson learned. I never thought UFC would manipulate fights, but after watching Mendes 189, Erokhin/Gonzaga, and even Aldo/McGregor, there's no question these fights could be fixed. Just thought it was the NFL/NBA, but throw UFC in the mix. If money is involved, they don't care. Dana can easily pay Aldo 2 or 3 million because the dividends will pay much more than that.

What about those fights seemed fixed? Konstantin Erokhin does crossfit training. That could why his cardio & conditioning are so suspect. His fight with Gonzaga wasn't fixed, he's just not doing the right kind of strength and conditioning training.

NBA doesn't fix games as far as I can tell. What they do is, they give high ranked teams a lot of road games where they're constantly travelling. Low ranked teams get a lot of home games. This is what leads to upsets like milwaukee beating golden state today. NFL doesn't fix games either that I know of. If they do it, they don't go past officials making biased calls.

The same might be said of MMA. If fights are fixed, it probably doesn't go past the judging level. Yancy Medeiros vs John Makdessi might have been fixed in that the judges gave Yancy the win. Did you notice there was a long wait for scores to be tallied? If the judges are corrupt, that's probably as fixed as MMA gets. It wouldn't be the UFC fixing fights. It would be casinos and books influencing calls that are best for them.

If the UFC fixed fights, there wouldn't be so many champions losing all the time. There would be more stability.

**Killer_Demo** · 12-13-15, 02:04 AM

Conor will light up frankie. Not even close. Head clean off with the left.

Aldo quit crying.

**Sykes** · 12-13-15, 02:08 AM

I think the Erokhin/Gonzaga fight was dodgy, not rigged, I think Erokhin threw the fight. That Conor/Aldo fight. Comon serious. You could not get knocked out like that if you were paid 20mil and practiced it for 3 months instead of training. Sore loser talk that's all. Would of liked to have seen more of a fight myself but very happy Conor won. So many more good fights to make because of it.

Im actually in Brazil for a few months, Jose is in alot of ads on tv here, more so than any footballers or anything. He wouldnt need the money in the first place and the type of person he is I dont think any amount of money would make him take a dive. Cant believe I am even answering you tbh, that was as clean a KO as you will ever see. One of the best, and Conor did it before.

https://youtu.be/obgm6JNtyVo?t=364

**gizmo2431** · 12-13-15, 02:08 AM

For the most part nba and nfl seem clean, but if Arnold rothstein can fix the world series and the largest sport in the world (soccer) was proven to be fixed in the last 6 years, then we would be ignorant to say that mma or any sport for that matter couldn't be fixed. I just think it's clearly the minority, not the majority. Perhaps Aldo would lose, but going down in the first may have been significant versus another round. Pulp fiction style

**blazes_bff** · 12-13-15, 02:11 AM

Odds are up
Connor -190
frankie +150

**gizmo2431** · 12-13-15, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by Sykes

https://youtu.be/obgm6JNtyVo?t=364

That'd not even on the level of tonight's punch. That is indeed a knockout type of left.

**JC2008** · 12-13-15, 02:17 AM

Originally posted by JoshKnows46

Made up the money?, I won last night as well, 2 and 2 tlast night, won my big bet last night,Mendes was one of my smaller bets, check out my thread, and I sweeped tonight's card 4 and 0, 6 wins and 2 loses last 2 nights,made out huge with Ferguson mcgregor andr rockhokd. I'm the king of mma betting, this is nothing new, look me up kid.

Cool story. Saw your Holloway parlays over Oliviera then saw your plays on Felder that lost. Haven't see you since. Welcome back.

**Sykes** · 12-13-15, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by gizmo2431

That'd not even on the level of tonight's punch. That is indeed a knockout type of left.

Exact same punch only tonight's was better.

**TPowell** · 12-13-15, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by blazes_bff

Odds are up
Connor -190
frankie +150

wow.... Frankie is going to get rocked. I love Frankie a lot, but he can't keep Conor down for 5 rounds straight. Max Holloway is the best chance at dethroning Conor IMO

**Fred The Hammer** · 12-13-15, 02:22 AM

Originally posted by TPowell

wow.... Frankie is going to get rocked. I love Frankie a lot, but he can't keep Conor down for 5 rounds straight. Max Holloway is the best chance at dethroning Conor IMO

He already beat him w/a blown knee. I think it was Holloway anyway?

**Sanity Check** · 12-13-15, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by Sykes

https://youtu.be/obgm6JNtyVo?t=364

Different angle.

https://youtu.be/obgm6JNtyVo?t=7m25s

**Unwritten Law** · 12-13-15, 02:25 AM

I've seen so many shady stuff, especially professional sports. It's just a shame that people believe fairy tales. My BR is perfectly fine. I lost the main event but I'm doing well. Just bothers me that people can't see the manipulations.

Last year, I had a buddy that I talked to, I'd tell him the outcome of NFL games towards the end of the NFL season and playoffs. I got them mostly all correct, including some upsets, and he told me not to "ruin the game" for him because I had predicted them before hand.

Props to everyone that profited this event. Congrats. But just know that professional sports, now including the UFC can be fixed. Big money, they don't care, whatever it takes to capitalize.

**Sykes** · 12-13-15, 02:27 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjXHai7M7oU

**Fred The Hammer** · 12-13-15, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by Unwritten Law

I've seen so many shady stuff, especially professional sports. It's just a shame that people believe fairy tales. My BR is perfectly fine. I lost the main event but I'm doing well. Just bothers me that people can't see the manipulations.

Last year, I had a buddy that I talked to, I'd tell him the outcome of NFL games towards the end of the NFL season and playoffs. I got them mostly all correct, including some upsets, and he told me not to "ruin the game" for him because I had predicted them before hand.

Props to everyone that profited this event. Congrats. But just know that professional sports, now including the UFC can be fixed. Big money, they don't care, whatever it takes to capitalize.

Dude...pls quit while you're behind. Now the NFL is fixing games because someone can make so much from gambling that its worth possibly losing their stranglehold as the #1 sport in America. Is that what you're saying? If that was true then Holly would've got the payoff and went down. Rousey was taking womens MMA to a diff level and was bigger in America than McGregor

**JoshKnows46** · 12-13-15, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by JC2008

Cool story. Saw your Holloway parlays over Oliviera then saw your plays on Felder that lost. Haven't see you since. Welcome back.

guess you missed all those months before that, card after card, one lose doesn't hurt me, a month of losing wouldn't hurt my bankroll, i quit posting because i got tired of hearing whinny people because i lost a couple fights, if i happen to lose a big bet and hear crying again, or just annoying me on any level, i'll leave again. i enjoy posting my picks, ive never made anyone pay for them from my mma to my football picks for the last 9 years, and i never will, but i wont listen to complaining when i lose, i don't need to hear shit when i have a rough night, i put a lot of time and energy into this, so i will be very confident when i do post, i'm the peoples champion, you will never see me ask for a cent, all i ask for is for some common decency win i lose, because everyone loses, its fighting, but i win far more often then i lose, and that's a fact. just make sure your not on the opp side of me, and be cool.

**GR33D** · 12-13-15, 02:42 AM

lol at those stating a fix. i had money on aldo. aldo lost the fight for straight stupidity, walking straight towards Conor winging punches. i cant wait for Frankie v Conor, i think Frankie has a real shot, as its wrestling that will nullify Conors strengths.

**TPowell** · 12-13-15, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by Fred The Hammer

He already beat him w/a blown knee. I think it was Holloway anyway?

true but Holloway was hurt in the 1st round of that fight as well IIRC

**JC2008** · 12-13-15, 03:15 AM

Frankie has no shot aside from the EA curse. CM is way too big for the division for Frankie's shots to have any effect on him, and he isn't strong enough to outmuscle CM.

**JoshKnows46** · 12-13-15, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by JC2008

Frankie has no shot aside from the EA curse. CM is way too big for the division for Frankie's shots to have any effect on him.

frankie has some things that the other two don't though(mendes and aldo), he has smarts, he has better top control then mendes, he wont rush into subs like mendes if he gets it down, hes not afraid to stick and move, he wont get into a brawl, lets be honest, no one in the feather weight or lightwieght divison is standing with connor, so edgars lack of power isnt a x factor in this fight, becuase his gameplan will be to get the fight to the ground as soon as possible, edgar is use to fighting bigger fighters, the question is will edgar be able to hold connor down long enough each round to win a desision, and is edgar elusive enough to avoid connors punches, he does have better footwork and head movement then aldo and mendes, but also less power, but like i said, striking shouldnt be anyones priorty in a mcgregor fight. he is mcgregors toughest fight, but i cant see him lasting 5 rounds, he brings a intresting stye match-up to the fight however, and you cant count him out, if i was forced to bet it now, i'd bet conor, but we have time, edgar wont be affected or beat before the fight takes place like mendes and aldo were, but most likely we wont see mcgregor in too much danger till he moves up to lightweight and has to go against a strong wrestler with power like dos anjos or kabib.

**Sykes** · 12-13-15, 03:43 AM

**JoshKnows46** · 12-13-15, 03:52 AM

probable best way to bet the fight, is connor by ko, and hedge with a play 1/3 the size on edgar by sub.

**Heyeverybody99** · 12-13-15, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by Unwritten Law

The McGregor hype train is rolling good. Looks like the money train is on him for the time being. Wished Duffy could get the next shot because I don't think he's willing to take a dive, yet. UFC might prolong for him to lose and slip him out of the rankings. Looks at the Poirier fight....for all we knew the fight could've been called off to stall Duffy moving up the rankings.

Lesson learned. I never thought UFC would manipulate fights, but after watching Mendes 189, Erokhin/Gonzaga, and even Aldo/McGregor, there's no question these fights could be fixed. Just thought it was the NFL/NBA, but throw UFC in the mix. If money is involved, they don't care. Dana can easily pay Aldo 2 or 3 million because the dividends will pay much more than that.

Just shut up, you crybaby, sore losing, pus$y.

**slayer14** · 12-13-15, 06:07 AM

Sorry guys i am not buying into this that this connor mcgregor is a mma superstar now, jose aldo take a punch to the side of his face and collapses it was bizarre to watch and by the way i had no bets on this match up.

**slayer14** · 12-13-15, 06:12 AM

Connor mcgregor fan admitting something not right about the fight.

**Sato** · 12-13-15, 08:35 AM

Alright that was shocking. Just a beautiful counter. If you watch that moment in replay you could see Connor stepping back just a tiny bit and when he placed both feet he immediately rotated his hips all in just a split second. It was a beautiful shot.

**mirinquads** · 12-13-15, 09:35 AM

Originally posted by POOLSIDE

Which part was boring? Well, let's see. The months and months of hearing about it. The phony posturing and trash talking that has zero effect on the fight. The WWE style buildup. The WWE style announcer making the looooong introductions. I've seen both basketball teams announced in less time than this guy talked about each one of these 135lb tiny men. Then the fight was over in ten seconds. Thank god I streamed it. People pay to watch this?

Like I said, not a fan. I used to love boxing but MMA doesn't do it for me. However, this fight was so built up that I decided to give it a shot. Ten minutes of light shows and dramatic introductions and ten seconds of fighting later, I'm bored.

Side note. It's real easy to call someone a pussy over the internet. If that's you in the profile pic, I'd wager that's the only place you're doing it.

Yeah because there was no other fights that night right? How do you know the trashtalk had nothing to do with the fight? Did you see the fight before it? Amazing stuff. And if you didn't appreciate this fight card, I'm sure your don't appreciate fighting, and are the type that would look at the floor if anybody called you a pussy to your face.

You dont need to look tough to be good at fighting, son. And people keep talking shit about my picture, but I ain't seeing anybody else put up their mug.

**Sanity Check** · 12-13-15, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by mirinquads

You dont need to look tough to be good at fighting, son. And people keep talking shit about my picture, but I ain't seeing anybody else put up their mug.

Are you saying you're good at fighting?

How close are you to being able to bench press 2x your weight?

**brooks85** · 12-13-15, 10:21 AM

Originally posted by JC2008

Frankie has no shot aside from the EA curse. CM is way too big for the division for Frankie's shots to have any effect on him, and he isn't strong enough to outmuscle CM.

only a unprepared mendes can do that huh?

**nanderson1134** · 12-13-15, 10:31 AM

Damn phone wouldn't let me post last night.

What a huge letdown last night was! That fight goes down with the likes of Silva/Weidman and gsp/serra except this us easilest biggest letdown in mma history!

**nanderson1134** · 12-13-15, 11:00 AM

If we don't get an immediate rematch that is some serious bs. Conor likes money, no reason they couldn't fight again in 2 months

**JIBBBY** · 12-13-15, 01:14 PM

That main event that the world was waiting to see was a complete joke.. I blinked and the fight was over just like that. I was like WTF?. Aldo came forward aggressively and got caught with the first punch of the fight.. I can laugh now about it.. Lol..

Weidman was winning the fight early on and even wrestled down Luke and took his back, then a few rounds later Weidman tries that weak ass failed spinning back kick ala Vitor.. Next thing I know he's mounted and getting pounded on.. Not tryinig to buck or fight back... It's like he completely quit right there. NO HEART.. Weidman might retire after this and I wouldn't be surprised..

This weekend kicked my ass big time.. Oh well.. reset restart.. Bank roll got punished.. It happens.. I did enjoy some of the other fights though..

IMO - This event DID NOT LIVE UP TO HYPE.

**JIBBBY** · 12-13-15, 01:20 PM

There is some major shifts in the UFC with 3 undefeated fighters and champions losing this month.. Ronda Rousey, Chris Weidman and Aldo..

You don't see that happen often if ever.. All were arguably pound for pound the best fighters in the UFC a month ago...

Crazy month for MMA that's all can say!!!

**JC2008** · 12-13-15, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

only a unprepared mendes can do that huh?

Are you being serious? I never said anything about Mendes. I saw that fight. I'm talking about Edgar. Mendes is bigger than Edgar and a better wrestler, period.

**UncleChael** · 12-13-15, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by JIBBBY

There is some major shifts in the UFC with 3 undefeated fighters and champions losing this month.. Ronda Rousey, Chris Weidman and Aldo..

You don't see that happen often if ever.. All were arguably pound for pound the best fighters in the UFC a month ago...

Crazy month for MMA that's all can say!!!

I told you 6 months ago, Luke Rockhold, Brotha.