News for mma that occurs during the 8th month of the year and bewbz

[Thor4140]

Because you have to build contenders by having them fight other top fighters. You can't have Jacare fight a bunch of bottom feeders like Camozzi and then give him a fight vs the #1 in the world. Gotta build him up vs other top fighters.

And who knows, if Okami beat him that'd be back to back BIG wins for Yushin. You could slide him into a #1 contender matchup after for a shot at Weidman.

Dude im well aware of what you are saying but this is a business and that is why higher rating fights for PPV rule over fighter ranking most times with the UFC. You don't kill guys steam early against a guy like OKami. Im talking about the business angle of all of this. You have a guy like Lombard who looks like a killer. He fights Tim Boetsch struggles because he has an injury and some feel he still won. Then he fights Paul Harris and destroys him. Now the guy is back to the killer he was and they throw him right in there with Okami for fuks sake. The lay and pray champion. What happens a split decision and Okami wins and the steam is gone again You got it now? People want to see action pack fights from action fighters. Don't put them in with Okami. Lombard could be fighting A Silva now. Let him fight Okami when he has the belt or loses in his title fight. Good Business 101.

[Luca Fury]

Dude im well aware of what you are saying but this is a business and that is why higher rating fights for PPV rule over fighter ranking most times with the UFC. You don't kill guys steam early against a guy like OKami. Im talking about the business angle of all of this. You have a guy like Lombard who looks like a killer. He fights Tim Boetsch struggles because he has an injury and some feel he still won. Then he fights Paul Harris and destroys him. Now the guy is back to the killer he was and they throw him right in there with Okami for fuks sake. The lay and pray champion. What happens a split decision and Okami wins and the steam is gone again You got it now? People want to see action pack fights from action fighters. Don't put them in with Okami. Lombard could be fighting A Silva now. Let him fight Okami when he has the belt or loses in his title fight. Good Business 101.

If Lombard won that fight, it would have been an exciting KO. If the fight was boring, it was because Lombard lost. So Okami's style doen't matter, only his name and ranking do

[Educ8d Degener8]

Thor, check out Sacrelicious' WWF threads. Might be more in line with the way you want Joe Silva to script out (lets call a spade a spade here) predetermined outcomes.

But further on your point -- the UFC kinda did what you have requested. They matched Lombard up with a reasonably well known mid tier guy (Boetsch) in his debut. Boetsch just broke script though and failed to put Lombard over.

[mirinquads]

A good matchup for him is Brown or even Pyle. Not these wrestlers who could possible lose the kids steam like Fitch did to him or what Okami did to Lombard and possibly now Souza. Stop putting guys with a lot of steam with these type of fighters who have a good possibility to derail them with their boring bullshit style. If u want to do that wait till they are on the cusp of a title. Souza is hot now. why throw him in with Okami now? Makes no sense at all and if you can't understand what im trying to explain than maybe u are Joe Silva.

You do understand that this is a sport right? Or at least supposed to give off the vibe of a sport. You can't just fast forward everyone with favorable matchups to a title shot.

Okami is surely a torn in their eye though, i do think they expected him to get knocked out against Lombard and Belcher though after the Boetch fight. I personally enjoy seeing that big chink lay on contenders though, because you can just imagine steam coming out of Dana Whites ears all the while.

[The iron sheik]

You don't have to like Okami or his fights, but he is a really good measuring stick when it comes to the top of the rankings.

Also, Hector who? His cantastic performances in the past do not matter anymore. The absurd argument that Hector deserves some quickpass to the title after stinking it up with Boetsch and actually managing to win against Paul Harris is absurd! Similarly, no disrespect to Camozzi but but that's not exactly a catapult to stardom in the division. Hell, why not go all the way and have Jacare fight Keith Jardine for the shitletot.


Inclined to agree with some of the posters here though, some of these matchups are kind of making no sense. I sure want to see Belfort-Henderson (battle of the aging TRT overlords), but in a ranking and contender sense of things, it's pretty stupid to make such fights. The only possible outcome in that sense is burying Belfort if he loses.

[Thor4140]

nNvermind getting this point across is tough when people don't get the point. Why do you think Edgar fought Aldo? For business and PPV buys along with what everyone wanted to see. Edgar had no rankings at 145. Look how they have brought up Rory which is the perfect example of what i am talking about. Have they thrown him in there with Koscheck? NO he hasn't fought a dynamic wrestler yet and people can't wait till see Rorys next fight. (before Ellenberger) This is how u do it. You don't derail steam with guys like Shields and Okami. Guys like Shields will win every decision if the oddsmakers want them to which is another thing that fly's over your guys head. Souza has one big thing in his favor for his match against Okami. The line is a joke and no way he should be a -245 favorite so this means this time Okami is gonna get all the cash bet on him and if this goes to a decision he has no shot at winning. Another point that will fly so far over most of ur heads i don't even know why i try and point it out to ya's.

[Thor4140]

You don't have to like Okami or his fights, but he is a really good measuring stick when it comes to the top of the rankings.

Also, Hector who? His cantastic performances in the past do not matter anymore. The absurd argument that Hector deserves some quickpass to the title after stinking it up with Boetsch and actually managing to win against Paul Harris is absurd! Similarly, no disrespect to Camozzi but but that's not exactly a catapult to stardom in the division. Hell, why not go all the way and have Jacare fight Keith Jardine for the shitletot.


Inclined to agree with some of the posters here though, some of these matchups are kind of making no sense. I sure want to see Belfort-Henderson (battle of the aging TRT overlords), but in a ranking and contender sense of things, it's pretty stupid to make such fights. The only possible outcome in that sense is burying Belfort if he loses.

Nobody is saying race LOmbard to the title but as a fight fan i want to see him against Vitor, Hendo, Machida, or even Bisping. Not Okami and now Lombard loses a close terrible fight. A fight the only way he could have won is by knockout and that is tough to do with a guy who's style is like Okami. So now all those great fights are gone because of a idiotic decision.

[Thor4140]

Now why do u monkeys think this is happening? Here is a guy who went hell bent against the UFC to save Eddie A but is willing to let this champ go? Could it be his style?

Morning Report: Bjorn Rebney doesn't expect Bellator to re-sign champ Ben Askren

[MD]

Nobody is saying race LOmbard to the title but as a fight fan i want to see him against Vitor, Hendo, Machida, or even Bisping. Not Okami and now Lombard loses a close terrible fight. A fight the only way he could have won is by knockout and that is tough to do with a guy who's style is like Okami. So now all those great fights are gone because of a idiotic decision.

There wasn't one close round in that fight.

[PunisherIND]

not sure if anyone posted this yet Lyoto Machida drops to 185, meets Tim Kennedy at UFC Fight for the Troops 3

[Thor4140]

There wasn't one close round in that fight.

out of all this conversation this is what u want to post? It is vintage u. Now am i supposed to change the subject and we can go back and forth for another worthless three pages on what u feel is a better thing to talk about. I will go by the judges scores and go with the split decision.

[Thor4140]

Conor McGregor @TheNotoriousMMA 45m @DiegoSanchezUFC You're the fattest, sloppiest, slowest Martial Artist i've ever laid eyes on. I'd go upto 170 to whoop your fat ass. EASY.
Retweeted by Ariel Helwani

[Thor4140]

Diego Sanchez UFC @DiegoSanchezUFC 11m @TheNotoriousMMA i have bigger fish to fry like #1rankedlightweight oct 19, be ready when I see you at fight summit it's on leprechaun!!!!!

[plekz]

Souza has one big thing in his favor for his match against Okami.

One big thing? Jacaré is first off one of the best bjj players in the world period, on top of this he is a world class judoka, coupled with having added great wrestling + really solid striking to his arsenal aswell over the last couple of years, what's even more he is not afraid to get hit and he really believes in his striking ability (plus he has a great chin)

Unless Okami manages to blanket him (which i doubt) it's not going to be a fun evening for Okami. Jacaré will be the best overall grappler Okami has ever faced, Chael Sonnen is a great wrestler but has nowhere near the bjj or judo that Jacaré has, Jacaré's guardpasses are second to none and his sweep game is also A+

[Thor4140]

One big thing? Jacaré is first off one of the best bjj players in the world period, on top of this he is a world class judoka, coupled with having added great wrestling + really solid striking to his arsenal aswell over the last couple of years, what's even more he is not afraid to get hit and he really believes in his striking ability (plus he has a great chin)

Unless Okami manages to blanket him (which i doubt) it's not going to be a fun evening for Okami. Jacaré will be the best overall grappler Okami has ever faced, Chael Sonnen is a great wrestler but has nowhere near the bjj or judo that Jacaré has, Jacaré's guardpasses are second to none and his sweep game is also A+

u must have missed his fight with Tim Kennedy. Not sure if you notice this but the top wrestlers have figured out the jujitz game and have neutralized it. I fu need proof last week Faber showed ya point blank. Kennedy vs Roger Gracie. List goes on and on.

[mirinquads]

Conor McGregor @TheNotoriousMMA 45m @DiegoSanchezUFC You're the fattest, sloppiest, slowest Martial Artist i've ever laid eyes on. I'd go upto 170 to whoop your fat ass. EASY.
Retweeted by Ariel Helwani

How can you not love this cat.

[plekz]

u must have missed his fight with Tim Kennedy. Not sure if you notice this but the top wrestlers have figured out the jujitz game and have neutralized it. I fu need proof last week Faber showed ya point blank. Kennedy vs Roger Gracie. List goes on and on.

Kennedy had very little luck against Roger until Roger gassed, and Jacaré and Roger arent even comparable in a mma-context, in a bjj match Roger and Jacaré are a fairly even pairing, you move it to mma on the other hand and Jacaré destroys Roger 9/10. Alcantara is a purple at best if you compare him to Jacaré, Aside from throwing up armbar attempts there really isnt much to Alcantara's bjj game at all, he's got great defensive jitz and great hips but that's about it.

Okami barely managed a split against Lombard. And the Tim Kennedy fight was THREE years ago, before Jacaré even started dedicating himself to furthering his grappling by adding wrestling to it aswell.

[MD]

One big thing? Jacaré is first off one of the best bjj players in the world period, on top of this he is a world class judoka, coupled with having added great wrestling + really solid striking to his arsenal aswell over the last couple of years, what's even more he is not afraid to get hit and he really believes in his striking ability (plus he has a great chin)

Unless Okami manages to blanket him (which i doubt) it's not going to be a fun evening for Okami. Jacaré will be the best overall grappler Okami has ever faced, Chael Sonnen is a great wrestler but has nowhere near the bjj or judo that Jacaré has, Jacaré's guardpasses are second to none and his sweep game is also A+

Kennedy had very little luck against Roger until Roger gassed, and Jacaré and Roger arent even comparable in a mma-context, in a bjj match Roger and Jacaré are a fairly even pairing, you move it to mma on the other hand and Jacaré destroys Roger 9/10. Alcantara is a purple at best if you compare him to Jacaré, Aside from throwing up armbar attempts there really isnt much to Alcantara's bjj game at all, he's got great defensive jitz and great hips but that's about it.

Okami barely managed a split against Lombard. And the Tim Kennedy fight was THREE years ago, before Jacaré even started dedicating himself to furthering his grappling by adding wrestling to it aswell.

This thread has taken a hilarious turn.

[Vaughany]

Conor McGregor @TheNotoriousMMA 45m @DiegoSanchezUFC You're the fattest, sloppiest, slowest Martial Artist i've ever laid eyes on. I'd go upto 170 to whoop your fat ass. EASY.
Retweeted by Ariel Helwani

lmaoooooo

[plekz]

MD:

Two names brosif Overeem & Uriah.

And yes compared to Jacaré who is a openweight top 5 ranked bjj player Alcantara is at best a purple. And three 29-28 is pretty much the definition of barely scraping by.

[MD]

MD:

Two names brosif Overeem & Uriah.

And yes compared to Jacaré who is a openweight top 5 ranked bjj player Alcantara is at best a purple. And three 29-28 is pretty much the definition of barely scraping by.

It's funny you bring up plays of mine that lose. I seem to remember you saying over and over how good a play Shogun was, and pasting quotes from Sonnen trying to paint a picture of him as mentally not-there, and then when people argued with you, you said that they simply didn't understand because they didn't roll, and because you rolled, you had a greater insight into the fight. And then Shogun got choked out in under a round, and you were nowhere to be seen.

Also, you should do a better job of having a ghost account, 'Loader.

[Beelzebubzy]

Search the number of threads MD has started. All have won but Reem and Hall.
Kennedy and hollet ov 2.5 are the only ones I can recall. But only two losers

[plekz]

Doesn't change the fact that practicly telling people to 'bet the house' on someone who has been cancrushing for the better part of five years and who left LHW because he got flattened and made quit against more then 50% of every legit fighter he faced there is borderline retardation.

Bet the house on someone who managed to retire post diverticulitis Lesnar, got KTFO by BigFoot and who has NEVER managed to turn it around when he's faced adversity.

That's some prime cappin at it's best.

(And don't even get me started about Uriah)

Also MD (short for what Mac Dumbphuck?) it's pure hilarity to try and play 'oh but yous a ghost m8' cards hilarious on a 4chanesqueusedtobethekidtheotherstricked intoeatingglueasakid level that is.

[MD]

Doesn't change the fact that practicly telling people to 'bet the house' on someone who has been cancrushing for the better part of five years and who left LHW because he got flattened and made quit against more then 50% of every legit fighter he faced there is borderline retardation.

Bet the house on someone who managed to retire post diverticulitis Lesnar, got KTFO by BigFoot and who has NEVER managed to turn it around when he's faced adversity.

That's some prime cappin at it's best.

Also MD (short for what Mac Dumbphuck?) it's pure hilarity to try and play 'oh but yous a ghost m8' cards hilarious on a 4chan esque used to be the kid the others tricked into eating glue as a kid 'hilarious' that is.

Yeah, no, I said I 'capped him at -350. That means "bet the house" to you? Did you learn that in jiu jitsu class too, bro? I'm glad Shogun didn't spend as much time rolling as you did.

[Beelzebubzy]

Sorry plekz you are not winning this argument

you need to develop thick skin to survive here. If you got butt hurt over that line up there by MD, then you will turn into another over actor like Gaberz

[Thor4140]

Kennedy had very little luck against Roger until Roger gassed, and Jacaré and Roger arent even comparable in a mma-context, in a bjj match Roger and Jacaré are a fairly even pairing, you move it to mma on the other hand and Jacaré destroys Roger 9/10. Alcantara is a purple at best if you compare him to Jacaré, Aside from throwing up armbar attempts there really isnt much to Alcantara's bjj game at all, he's got great defensive jitz and great hips but that's about it.

Okami barely managed a split against Lombard. And the Tim Kennedy fight was THREE years ago, before Jacaré even started dedicating himself to furthering his grappling by adding wrestling to it aswell.

Dude i could list ten other recent fights with these top JU jitz guys against the top wrestler. In their day the JU jitz guys wrapped these wrestlers up. Now it is different. Look how well Vinny is doing. He couldn't even touch Phil Davis. JU Jitzu is obsolete now against top wrestlers. Heck the big name wrestlers like Sonnen added it to their game while the JU jitz player failed to add wrestling to their game and the wrestlers are starting to submit them. Aren't u the roll guy who told me i didn't know what i was talking about in the Sonnen Shogun fight?

[Thor4140]

It's funny you bring up plays of mine that lose. I seem to remember you saying over and over how good a play Shogun was, and pasting quotes from Sonnen trying to paint a picture of him as mentally not-there, and then when people argued with you, you said that they simply didn't understand because they didn't roll, and because you rolled, you had a greater insight into the fight. And then Shogun got choked out in under a round, and you were nowhere to be seen.

Also, you should do a better job of having a ghost account, 'Loader.

I thought he was the roll guy. After he posted that Sonnen stuff i told him good point and then i started thinking this was the same thing Sonnen was doing with Stann.

[Thor4140]

Another thing Roll guy don't tell MD i said this but Okami won round one and two with his grinding style and lost round three badly. The judges who said it was a split decision should never judge another fight again.

[Thor4140]

Ben Askren @Benaskren @danawhite hey if @JohnyHendricks gets hurt for November just let me know I'm ready
5:31 PM - 21 Aug 2013

[Luca Fury]

You do understand that this is a sport right? Or at least supposed to give off the vibe of a sport. You can't just fast forward everyone with favorable matchups to a title shot.

Okami is surely a torn in their eye though, i do think they expected him to get knocked out against Lombard and Belcher though after the Boetch fight. I personally enjoy seeing that big chink lay on contenders though, because you can just imagine steam coming out of Dana Whites ears all the while.

You don't have to like Okami or his fights, but he is a really good measuring stick when it comes to the top of the rankings.

Also, Hector who? His cantastic performances in the past do not matter anymore. The absurd argument that Hector deserves some quickpass to the title after stinking it up with Boetsch and actually managing to win against Paul Harris is absurd! Similarly, no disrespect to Camozzi but but that's not exactly a catapult to stardom in the division. Hell, why not go all the way and have Jacare fight Keith Jardine for the shitletot.


Inclined to agree with some of the posters here though, some of these matchups are kind of making no sense. I sure want to see Belfort-Henderson (battle of the aging TRT overlords), but in a ranking and contender sense of things, it's pretty stupid to make such fights. The only possible outcome in that sense is burying Belfort if he loses.

What they said.

nNvermind getting this point across is tough when people don't get the point. Why do you think Edgar fought Aldo?

That's not a good analogy. Edgar fought Aldo for a variety of SPORT reasons.

1) He was the longtime #1 at a HIGHER weight class and a top 5 P4P fighter.

2) He would be the champ in that division if not for a title fight "loss" via a decision that EVERYONE thought was a robbery.

3) Despite never fighting in his new, lower division, he was by far the best fighter aside from Aldo.


You think Lombard KO'ing a bucnh of absolute bums in Bellator and then losing a close decision to a gatekeeper is the same? He wasn't even ranked top 10 before the Boetsch loss. Him getting an immediate title shot would have been absurd. Meanwhile, giving Edgar an immediate title show made sense.

[Vaughany]

This plebz guy was gettim clowned on sherdog cos he was hyping shogun and saying he was betting him, then after he tapped plebz suddenly hadnt played shogun afterall! Classic sherdog

[plekz]

This plebz guy was gettim clowned on sherdog cos he was hyping shogun and saying he was betting him, then after he tapped plebz suddenly hadnt played shogun afterall! Classic sherdog

No, Oblivian tried to 'pull my card' but there are atleast 4 or 5 people in that thread who can verify i opted out of Shogun already on friday evening after going through tapes again and watching the weighins. Are all of you 4chan kids in these threads? cuz it's somewhat apparent that you for instance are at best halfway to 30 i'd put you even a few years under from the way you carry yourself and how you are so desperatly trying to get 'easy points' and impress the rest of the 'cool kids' in this cesspool.

Or it could be that you've just been really slow at maturing, but it's quite apparent that you are giving it your all to try and 'fit in' and take every little chance you get at 'clowning' others to get cool points from the ones you 'admire' here.

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Also, instead of trying to get away with upright LIES how about you quote the posts from SD where i explicitly say i am playing or had made bets on Shogun, should be easy enough for you.

Or we could end it right here and just conclude you are a lying pathetic phaggot and i don't mean the frank ocean hey i like men type of phaggot no i mean the should be charged for the oxygen he breaths and if given a chance would be promptly voted off the island (planet) bottomfeeding type of PHAGGOT.

Cuz lies in any way shape or form are about as low desperate and pathetic as it get's for us humans.

[Grabaka]

No, Oblivian tried to 'pull my card' but there are atleast 4 or 5 people in that thread who can verify i opted out of Shogun already on friday evening after going through tapes again and watching the weighins. Are all of you 4chan kids in these threads? cuz it's somewhat apparent that you for instance are at best halfway to 30 i'd put you even a few years under from the way you carry yourself and how you are so desperatly trying to get 'easy points' and impress the rest of the 'cool kids' in this cesspool.

Or it could be that you've just been really slow at maturing, but it's quite apparent that you are giving it your all to try and 'fit in' and take every little chance you get at 'clowning' others to get cool points from the ones you 'admire' here.

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Also, instead of trying to get away with upright LIES how about you quote the posts from SD where i explicitly say i am playing or had made bets on Shogun, should be easy enough for you.

Or we could end it right here and just conclude you are a lying pathetic phaggot and i don't mean the frank ocean hey i like men type of phaggot no i mean the should be charged for the oxygen he breaths and if given a chance would be promptly voted off the island (planet) bottomfeeding type of PHAGGOT.

Cuz lies in any way shape or form are about as low desperate and pathetic as it get's for us humans.

Daaaaamn boyyyyy....
That escalated quickly!! Relax fella....we like to play around and shit, no need to insult this place like its just filled of poop...after all you joined and have been contributing there must be a reason why. V is a very good guy, you will see yourself.

[plekz]

I am relaxed, i am also old enough to hone up to my mistakes, and i'll be the first to admit i capped the Shogun fight way off, and same goes for Ellenberger and as such i'd also have no problems what so ever admitting to betting the fights had i done so. In the case of Shogun i opted out (didn't play either side of it, nor did i play the Overeem v Browne fight) but going heavy on Lauzon was still enough to sink my ship.

As for the Ellenberger v Rory i played Ellen straight but had Rory DEC (which i saw as the most likely outcome) in a couple of parlays that cashed and saved that night (along with Guillard KO/TKO and a couple of others)

But as such, i also have zero tolerance policy for lies, and i disdain people that resort to using such tactics. I judge people by actions, and so far he's carried himself like a phaggot so he'll be called out like one aswell it's really as simple as that. So people telling me he's a 'very good guy' holds very little weight.

[Vaughany]

No, Oblivian tried to 'pull my card' but there are atleast 4 or 5 people in that thread who can verify i opted out of Shogun already on friday evening after going through tapes again and watching the weighins. Are all of you 4chan kids in these threads? cuz it's somewhat apparent that you for instance are at best halfway to 30 i'd put you even a few years under from the way you carry yourself and how you are so desperatly trying to get 'easy points' and impress the rest of the 'cool kids' in this cesspool.

Or it could be that you've just been really slow at maturing, but it's quite apparent that you are giving it your all to try and 'fit in' and take every little chance you get at 'clowning' others to get cool points from the ones you 'admire' here.

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Also, instead of trying to get away with upright LIES how about you quote the posts from SD where i explicitly say i am playing or had made bets on Shogun, should be easy enough for you.

Or we could end it right here and just conclude you are a lying pathetic phaggot and i don't mean the frank ocean hey i like men type of phaggot no i mean the should be charged for the oxygen he breaths and if given a chance would be promptly voted off the island (planet) bottomfeeding type of PHAGGOT.

Cuz lies in any way shape or form are about as low desperate and pathetic as it get's for us humans.

I'm going Shogun because i'm somewhat sure Chael is just blowin smoke and that he has no intentions on doing all those fights he signed for, he'll do a couple more after this one at best and then call it quits and move onto broadcasting/commentating he'll prolly jump as soon as he's offered something solid.

See this is the thing you people fail to grasp, it's the exact same Shogun, it's fairly easy to tell who on here roll on a regular basis and have a understanding of fighting, and who are going by footage and dont really understand the other mechanics involved to a fight.