UFC 162 Silva Vs Weidman (July 06, 2013)

[varkolek]

One of Weidman's biggest strengths is that he's effective with both his upper body and lower body wrestling. Very rare amongst top level MMA wrestlers.

I think you raise a good point, but I disagree with you. Silva's ability to stop takedowns almost entirely relies on his distance control. Getting close enough to take Andereson down by attacking his legs is hard enough, attacking his upper body is even harder, especially when you consider how brilliant his clinch work is.

Could be, but Chael has to shoot in order to get Anderson down. If Chael just has a hold of Silva, with under hooks, he's helpless. Whereas if Henderson gets a hold of Silva without shooting, he can get a TD. I think I remember Henderson simply taking Silva down with a body lock, whereas Chael doesn't have that option.

[Sacrelicious]

All in bet on Weld Man! I can't believe you guys are debating this, he should be -12000.

[Sacrelicious]

Wait a second....

Oh.....penetrate....

[Grabaka]

He's saying Silva was ripping off Chael's shorts like Albert Fish at a Hanson concert.

Yep, thanks bud...english aint ma thang!

[Sacrelicious]

I can't believe noone thought to alert me that this was not an Anderson Silva vs Weld Man fight, Weld Man is a penetrating robot with drills and high powered torches.

Unreal, my bankroll is in severe danger.

[MD]

I can't believe noone thought to alert me that this was not an Anderson Silva vs Weld Man fight, Weld Man is a penetrating robot with drills and high powered torches.

Unreal, my bankroll is in severe danger.

Rubber would still bet on Anderson.

[DSSCA]

Weld Man vs Anvil Son. Generators welcome.

[The iron sheik]

"His fists are like lunchboxes, Joe!"

[Rubber Guard]

I'm undefeated betting Anderson Silva. He is due to lose.

[Vaughany]

[Thor4140]

If im Forrest im buying up all rights to that fight he had with Silva and burning them all. Such an embarrassment. It looks worse every time i see it.

[Thor4140]

Might be the last time we ever get to take Silva odds this low unless he fights Jones. I just don't see the Weidman win. He is coming off an injured shoulder fighting a terrific fighter who has heard of all the ridiculous hype and will thrive off of it. Vitor is the only guy who has a chance to beat Silva unless Silva fights Jones. Maybe St Pierre has a shot because he doesn't have a box of rocks for brains in his head. I will watch tho.

[Beelzebubzy]

Might be the last time we ever get to take Silva odds this low unless he fights Jones. I just don't see the Weidman win. He is coming off an injured shoulder fighting a terrific fighter who has heard of all the ridiculous hype and will thrive off of it. Vitor is the only guy who has a chance to beat Silva unless Silva fights Jones. Maybe St Pierre has a shot because he doesn't have a box of rocks for brains in his head. I will watch tho.

St. Pierre has a much better chance than Belfort

[MD]

Might be the last time we ever get to take Silva odds this low unless he fights Jones. I just don't see the Weidman win. He is coming off an injured shoulder fighting a terrific fighter who has heard of all the ridiculous hype and will thrive off of it. Vitor is the only guy who has a chance to beat Silva unless Silva fights Jones. Maybe St Pierre has a shot because he doesn't have a box of rocks for brains in his head. I will watch tho.

1. Taking Silva against Jones? u srs? I'm praying for that fight to happen just so I can pay a year's rent with one night's bets.
2. Vitor beating Anderson. Anderson wins 95%+. That's being conservative.
3. Weidman is big GSP, and more dangerous. If Weidman can't beat Silva, GSP has pretty much no shot.

[bjpenn85]

I think Silva will be demolished by jones. Just the reach of jones alone is ridiculous. Then the wrestling, i mean, i would almost consider this a lock.

[mmaed]

If chael could take anderson down so easily, jon jones should have no problem.

[Beelzebubzy]

If chael could take anderson down so easily, jon jones should have no problem.

because there wrestling is so similar

[Thor4140]

1. Taking Silva against Jones? u srs? I'm praying for that fight to happen just so I can pay a year's rent with one night's bets.
2. Vitor beating Anderson. Anderson wins 95%+. That's being conservative.
3. Weidman is big GSP, and more dangerous. If Weidman can't beat Silva, GSP has pretty much no shot.

Never said anything about Silva beating Jones lol. Vitor got clip with a shot it happens. I know u think Tim Kennedy is a better striker than Vitor LMFAO so maybe u think Kennedy can take Silva. Weidman this Weidman that. All this body of work in nine fights and u have him this beast like the others who get hyped right in. Nobody has a better double leg then GSP and Weidman doesn't either. This reminds me of when suckers like yourself were all over Ricky Hatton when he fought Mayweather. The next great white hope. Lets hope Weidman puts up a good battle but this hype with only nine fights and to me only beating one top guy is silly.

[Thor4140]

1. Taking Silva against Jones? u srs? I'm praying for that fight to happen just so I can pay a year's rent with one night's bets.
2. Vitor beating Anderson. Anderson wins 95%+. That's being conservative.
3. Weidman is big GSP, and more dangerous. If Weidman can't beat Silva, GSP has pretty much no shot.

oh and by the way the Vitor of now came within inches of beating the best fighter on the planet in Jones. The same Jones u would risk a years rent if he fought Silva. Oh and Pettis has no shot against Aldo. Dam i wish he didn't get hurt because Pettis would have shown Aldo what is up.

[MD]

Yeah bro, he'll just wait for Anderson to take him down and then armbar him. You accuse me of "falling for the hype" and then you say you think Pettis would beat Aldo. The guy who's been KOing exploitable strikers for years and has like three good wins.

[Thor4140]

Yeah bro, he'll just wait for Anderson to take him down and then armbar him. You accuse me of "falling for the hype" and then you say you think Pettis would beat Aldo. The guy who's been KOing exploitable strikers for years and has like three good wins.

The only reason i will sit this fight out is because of Andersons age. Lately he has shown that he is starting to get hit a bit. Anderson of three years ago i would be all over. Frankie took all that Aldo hype and squashed it to guys who can actually see what is going on. Pettis is getting better and better like Vitor. I know u have a difficult time seeing a fighter progress but that is not my problem.

[MD]

The only reason i will sit this fight out is because of Andersons age. Lately he has shown that he is starting to get hit a bit. Anderson of three years ago i would be all over. Frankie took all that Aldo hype and squashed it to guys who can actually see what is going on. Pettis is getting better and better like Vitor. I know u have a difficult time seeing a fighter progress but that is not my problem.

Anyone who thought Frankie won that fight is seriously delusional. He won the fourth round, and that's it. You can kind of argue he won the fifth if you're being generous to Frankie, but even then you have to completely ignore how many more head strikes Aldo landed, and how hard he landed. It wasn't even a close fight. One clear Frankie round and, in my opinion, four clear Aldo rounds.

[Thor4140]

Anyone who thought Frankie won that fight is seriously delusional. He won the fourth round, and that's it. You can kind of argue he won the fifth if you're being generous to Frankie, but even then you have to completely ignore how many more head strikes Aldo landed, and how hard he landed. It wasn't even a close fight. One clear Frankie round and, in my opinion, four clear Aldo rounds.

u bet Aldo of course u saw it that way. U saw Gray Maynard box Nate Diaz ears off. The only guy on the planet that saw that lol.

[Dwil125]

had it 3-2 aldo, thought edgar stole another round besides 4 its hard to remember... I think the third when he got hit with that front kick was the other round I gave him.

[MD]

u bet Aldo of course u saw it that way. U saw Gray Maynard box Nate Diaz ears off. The only guy on the planet that saw that lol.

I also bet on Sonnen, but I thought Bisping clearly beat him. And I didn't say that, I said he out-boxed Diaz. He won a close decision in a fight in which they stood and boxed for the duration. I had it for Maynard, slightly. You don't think that constitutes "out-boxing"?

[raag]

The only reason i will sit this fight out is because of Andersons age. Lately he has shown that he is starting to get hit a bit. Anderson of three years ago i would be all over. Frankie took all that Aldo hype and squashed it to guys who can actually see what is going on. Pettis is getting better and better like Vitor. I know u have a difficult time seeing a fighter progress but that is not my problem.

The same Pettis who lost a round vs journeyman Jeremy Stephens?

The same Vitor that did not land one significant strike on Anderson and got murked in under a round?

Frankie "squashed the Aldo hype"?

I dunno what sport you're watching man.

Jones would, barring some big gameplan fuckup or in-ring arrogance (none of which he has showed), dominate Silva. And I say that as a fan who dislikes Jones and loves Anderson. 7 inches of reach, vastly superior wrestling, possibly the best clinch game in the sport, devastating GnP and great subs. Easy win for Jones.

[rocky16]

The same Pettis who lost a round vs journeyman Jeremy Stephens?

The same Vitor that did not land one significant strike on Anderson and got murked in under a round?

Frankie "squashed the Aldo hype"?

I dunno what sport you're watching man.

Jones would, barring some big gameplan fuckup or in-ring arrogance (none of which he has showed), dominate Silva. And I say that as a fan who dislikes Jones and loves Anderson. 7 inches of reach, vastly superior wrestling, possibly the best clinch game in the sport, devastating GnP and great subs. Easy win for Jones.

Pal, thats your criticism of Pettis, "He lost round to Jeremy Stephens." Oh lord. Guess GSP is a focking bum, lost two rounds to Shields. Guess Aldo is a fokking bum too, lost two rounds to focking Mark Hominick. Some of you betas should stop acting like you know what the fock you're talking bout.

[Thor4140]

The same Pettis who lost a round vs journeyman Jeremy Stephens?

The same Vitor that did not land one significant strike on Anderson and got murked in under a round?

Frankie "squashed the Aldo hype"?

I dunno what sport you're watching man.

Jones would, barring some big gameplan fuckup or in-ring arrogance (none of which he has showed), dominate Silva. And I say that as a fan who dislikes Jones and loves Anderson. 7 inches of reach, vastly superior wrestling, possibly the best clinch game in the sport, devastating GnP and great subs. Easy win for Jones.

I know it is tough for guys with the Aldo koolaid in their veins to realize this but Frankie took round three four and five. Five most gave to Aldo because of one late hit when he pushed off the cage. I never said anything about Silva beating Jones. Vitor got clipped. U think this would happen again? Vitor has been smashing people and again u are another guy who loves Jones against Silva but will not give Vitor credit for his fight with Jones (but of course u think Silva would kick him in the face again)which was inches from being a win. Oh and Pettis Stevens fight was what two years ago?

[Thor4140]

Pal, thats your criticism of Pettis, "He lost round to Jeremy Stephens." Oh lord. Guess GSP is a focking bum, lost two rounds to Shields. Guess Aldo is a fokking bum too, lost two rounds to focking Mark Hominick. Some of you betas should stop acting like you know what the fock you're talking bout.

Didn't see your post Rock but that line of his was about as retarded as it gets.

[Thor4140]

Weidman update. Chris Weidman will be without head coach Matt Serra at UFC 162 due to Serra's current medical condition. Replacing Serra in Weidman's corner will be the middleweight contender's father, Charlie Weidman.

[Grabaka]

Gooo charlieee!

[mmaed]

Frankie did well against aldo. Part of that reason is because of cardio and he does it in every fight. Because he is so small he in great shape he has more energy in the last two rounds.

Pettis did fine against stephens when you take into consideration the circumstances. Pettis was coming off of a loss to clay guida where he was outwrestled for three rounds. Pettis spent the stephens fight trying to outwrestle jeremy stephens and he did a decent job. After the fight he made a comment about how he was trying to prove his wrestling was good. Wrestling is not the best part of pettis's game, his striking is. Had pettis came to strike with stephens he might have done a lot better but he wanted to prove to the ufc and the world that his wrestling was up to par.

In a fight against aldo pettis has an excellent shot because his striking is good enough to contend with aldo. Obviously aldo is nasty on the feet and could of course win the fight but pettis would definetly be in the game. Pettis has a great kicking game to match aldo and a reach advantage. Aldo has a power advantage. His leg kicks are pretty brutal too but if pettis can check them he could hang in there and do fine. I think he can do that. Desmt mean he will win but he clearly has a shot.

jon jones should be favored over anderson. Height and reach advantage, wrestling advantage, solid striking and strong submission skill. Throw on top of that his high fight IQ and incredible gameness.

[Thor4140]

Frankie did well against aldo. Part of that reason is because of cardio and he does it in every fight. Because he is so small he in great shape he has more energy in the last two rounds.

Pettis did fine against stephens when you take into consideration the circumstances. Pettis was coming off of a loss to clay guida where he was outwrestled for three rounds. Pettis spent the stephens fight trying to outwrestle jeremy stephens and he did a decent job. After the fight he made a comment about how he was trying to prove his wrestling was good. Wrestling is not the best part of pettis's game, his striking is. Had pettis came to strike with stephens he might have done a lot better but he wanted to prove to the ufc and the world that his wrestling was up to par.

In a fight against aldo pettis has an excellent shot because his striking is good enough to contend with aldo. Obviously aldo is nasty on the feet and could of course win the fight but pettis would definetly be in the game. Pettis has a great kicking game to match aldo and a reach advantage. Aldo has a power advantage. His leg kicks are pretty brutal too but if pettis can check them he could hang in there and do fine. I think he can do that. Desmt mean he will win but he clearly has a shot.

jon jones should be favored over anderson. Height and reach advantage, wrestling advantage, solid striking and strong submission skill. Throw on top of that his high fight IQ and incredible gameness.

Frankie absolutely neutralized Aldo's kicking game from round three and on. I think when Pettis feels out the speed he will do the same thing because he is even more athletic than Frankie. Shame this fight is now off. I couldn't wait for this one. My opinion Jones would be 2.5 to three to one fav over Silva. Another fight id die to see and maybe some day we will.

[MD]

Frankie absolutely neutralized Aldo's kicking game from round three and on. I think when Pettis feels out the speed he will do the same thing because he is even more athletic than Frankie. Shame this fight is now off. I couldn't wait for this one. My opinion Jones would be 2.5 to three to one fav over Silva. Another fight id die to see and maybe some day we will.

Frankie did not neutralize Aldo's kicking game, and athleticism does not determine whether or not you can stop kicks. How about you watch how Pettis has done against kickers in the past?

[The iron sheik]

I also assume that since according to thor, frankie beat aldo ...that it was a case of the ol' fight fixing too? Serious question.