Fairlay

**TheMoneyShot** · 03-20-18, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by littlekona

U get one free every 2 weeks....doesnt matter when u deposited just freebie resets every 2 weeks from last free one...so if u have not done free one in last 2 weeks u get the free one..deposit date doesn't matter

Thanks Kona. Exactly the answer I was looking for.

**TheMoneyShot** · 03-20-18, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by Club

I never had trouble with prematch bets. It's the live bets that often don't work. Anyway, I'm getting out of Fairlay today and going to Betcoin.

Just curious... are you leaving Fairlay because of the poor Live Wagering platform?? Or additional issues/concerns? Thanks.

**TheMoneyShot** · 03-21-18, 03:45 PM

Happy to be back at Fairlay.... Nitrogen PO was ok. No fees were taken out.

**hotcross** · 03-21-18, 06:49 PM

Fairlay has been working as normal again now for the past few days. So they've cleared the issues they were having with the Market Makers and orders not being "matched". I've even tried a handful of small Live orders in different sports such as NBA, CBB, NHL just to test and all have been working fine with plenty of liquidity.

**TheMoneyShot** · 03-21-18, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by hotcross

Fairlay has been working as normal again now for the past few days. So they've cleared the issues they were having with the Market Makers and orders not being "matched". I've even tried a handful of small Live orders in different sports such as NBA, CBB, NHL just to test and all have been working fine with plenty of liquidity.

Very good news. Thanks.

**littlekona** · 03-23-18, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Happy to be back at Fairlay.... Nitrogen PO was ok. No fees were taken out.

Hey money....Man I have not tried the old site in a bit as I like that for horses better then the new...Looks like its no accessible any longer unless you go through a process to activate which seems kind of complex....You still using old site??

**TheMoneyShot** · 03-23-18, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by littlekona

Hey money....Man I have not tried the old site in a bit as I like that for horses better then the new...Looks like its no accessible any longer unless you go through a process to activate which seems kind of complex....You still using old site??

I just logged on into the old site after I read your post. Something is really screwed up on that site. My available balance changed... and said I had pending predictions. (Which isn't true.... nothing should be pending.) I refreshed the new site... and my balance was fine.

I have no clue what's going on with the old site??? I'm pretty comfortable with the new site anyways.

**littlekona** · 03-23-18, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

I just logged on into the old site after I read your post. Something is really screwed up on that site. My available balance changed... and said I had pending predictions. (Which isn't true.... nothing should be pending.) I refreshed the new site... and my balance was fine.

I have no clue what's going on with the old site??? I'm pretty comfortable with the new site anyways.

yea I am done with the old site too now...there is a way to access and tie the old and new but seems way to complicated for me at least....

**hotcross** · 03-29-18, 03:02 PM

Fairlay has an excellent variety of MLB Baseball lines, with tons of liquidity.

They'll take action more than 1 BTC (1000+ mBTC) on a moneyline for game winner.

Totals about 0.5 BTC, also there are multiple Totals listed (eg. Over 8 runs, Over 7.5 runs, etc)

**littlekona** · 04-03-18, 09:30 PM

Just a FYI they implemented a reserved fund rule see #40 in FAQ https://fairlay.com/faq/#reserved-funds
since I do many smaller wagers esp on horses it doesn’t effect me much but if you like to bet whole bankroll and then parlay before 24 hours it will....one dude ruined it by taking advantage of a misgrade and cashing out a hefty sum is what I heard in chat so for now they implemented this...This is fluid and they said they are looking for a better solution but for now it is in effect....withdrawals still instant as usual for avail funds...

**TheMoneyShot** · 04-04-18, 03:50 AM

Thanks for the post Kona

**PSD999** · 04-08-18, 07:18 AM

Bitcoin Prediction Market Fairlay Sees Sizable Volumes

Bitcoin Prediction Market Fairlay Sees Sizable Volumes – Emerging Markets Bitcoin News

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-prediction-market-fairlay-sees-sizable-volumes/

There are a few projects in the works hoping to build decentralised prediction markets, with projects like Augur and Hivemind. One particular project, although not fully 'trust-less' at the moment, Fairlay, has been moving a staggering amount of volume over the past few months with over 100 to 150 BTC per day at times.

**littlekona** · 04-08-18, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by PSD999

Bitcoin Prediction Market Fairlay Sees Sizable Volumes
https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-pre...zable-volumes/

very interesting thanks for sharing...the guys at Fairlay are very much high tech and very smart guys...pretty cool there thoughts on crypt technology.. amazing they move around a million or so btc in USD a day...Sites Like Nitro must move like what 20X that...Crazy !

**raiders72001** · 04-08-18, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by littlekona

very interesting thanks for sharing...the guys at Fairlay are very much high tech and very smart guys...pretty cool there thoughts on crypt technology.. amazing they move around a million or so btc in USD a day...Sites Like Nitro must move like what 20X that...Crazy !

Fairlay has .134 BTC (appr. $950) matched on the Mets Sunday night game if I'm reading their site correctly.

Game. Pitcher must start.Closing in
01:29:33
Settle
04/09/2018 02:05
Matched

134.93 mBTC

**raiders72001** · 04-08-18, 05:46 PM

Warriors/Suns tonight .025 BTC is what's stated as being matched.

Closing in02:20:40
Settle
04/09/2018 03:05
Matched
25.89 mBTC

**TheMoneyShot** · 04-08-18, 05:59 PM

Yeah Raiders... I truly believe Fairlay operates like a sportsbook. But, it's all good... as long as they pay.

**raiders72001** · 04-08-18, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Yeah Raiders... I truly believe Fairlay operates like a sportsbook. But, it's all good... as long as they pay.

true

**Httr** · 04-10-18, 05:19 PM

Which do you think is better for tennis? Fairlay or Nitrogen it looks both offer more on itf and challenger than other us sports book thanks

**Httr** · 04-10-18, 05:49 PM

It looks like fairlay is identical to pinnacle on tennis with much better markets. No I just have to reread this thread to figure out how to use fairlay

**littlekona** · 04-10-18, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by Httr

It looks like fairlay is identical to pinnacle on tennis with much better markets. No I just have to reread this thread to figure out how to use fairlay

Took me a bit but once you get used to it’s easy to get around and wager...I like finding my games through search box enter team and all options come up and you can then click on sub forums for more specific..just make sure you are aware of there rule for time being of reserved funds #40 in faq....

**Httr** · 04-10-18, 07:28 PM

How do you deal with the fluctuations of btc? Do y’all just deposit and withdraw constantly or keep it the acct? I’ve deposited in btc before but never kept in btc. That’s my worry but otherwise the fairlay’s markets are some of the best I’ve seen in the US

**littlekona** · 04-10-18, 07:35 PM

Originally posted by Httr

How do you deal with the fluctuations of btc? Do y’all just deposit and withdraw constantly or keep it the acct? I’ve deposited in btc before but never kept in btc. That’s my worry but otherwise the fairlay’s markets are some of the best I’ve seen in the US

Right now I don’t think you have to much to worry with price being down and stablizing...it might fluctuate daily a tad but most of time evens out...just have yourself set up so you can withdrawl and cash out fast through an exchange like coinbase or bitpay card just in case u want to cash out quick....withdrawals at fairlay are pretty much instant in most cases

**Httr** · 04-10-18, 10:28 PM

And when I mean I’ve used btc I used it one time in January for a deposit. I used either bread wallet or exodus(can’t remember
). The issue I had was the network fees. One hit from Coinbase to exodus and then another miner fee from exodus/bread wallet to the book. Then when I withdrew it was the same amount of fees in reverse

**TheMoneyShot** · 04-11-18, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by Httr

And when I mean I’ve used btc I used it one time in January for a deposit. I used either bread wallet or exodus(can’t remember
). The issue I had was the network fees. One hit from Coinbase to exodus and then another miner fee from exodus/bread wallet to the book. Then when I withdrew it was the same amount of fees in reverse

You can't be indecisive about leaving it in BTC or converting to your currency. It will screw with your wagers day in and day out if you constantly worry about the fluctuation. Especially when the damn BTC was dropping 2-3k in a week. Totally pissed me off.

Fairlay is a HUGE ADVANTAGE for someone who likes to wager in BTC ONLY and not worried about the ups and downs.

Good luck.

**Httr** · 04-11-18, 02:52 AM

Thanks everyone
One more question does Fairlay allow parlays?

**littlekona** · 04-11-18, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by Httr

Thanks everyone
One more question does Fairlay allow parlays?

No as it is an exchange and none do....what i suggest you do is have one withdrawal address( They allow multiple ones) linked with your Nitrogen Account and when you want to parlay or play poker just withdrawal back and forth un BTC...Thats what I do

**Httr** · 04-14-18, 05:48 PM

Ok so I've been comparing the odds on tennis with other books and Fairlay is beating all the US books. Both in odds and availability of matches. Again Ive deposited once using btc in bovada acct. Will this be any different also which coin is better btc, eth, or anything else. How do I figure miners fees. Say I buy $500 to $1000 how much will deducting in fees going from exchange and wallet and then to fairlay? Tia

**littlekona** · 04-14-18, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by Httr

Ok so I've been comparing the odds on tennis with other books and Fairlay is beating all the US books. Both in odds and availability of matches. Again Ive deposited once using btc in bovada acct. Will this be any different also which coin is better btc, eth, or anything else. How do I figure miners fees. Say I buy $500 to $1000 how much will deducting in fees going from exchange and wallet and then to fairlay? Tia

I would use btc as network and fees are good now...but u can deposit others too and exchange at fairlay....miners fees i use are under 10 cents of late so you dont lose much...you will be a btc pro soon enough

**littlekona** · 04-21-18, 01:09 PM

with btc trending higher ive been using Fairlay more of late...The new policy of reserve funds hold though I cant seem to figure as only a tiny portion of my win bets are held...Plus if you size your bets into a few smaller ones it is a way to kinda get around it too. So it really has not effected me very much at all....Anyone else experience this??

mBTC

40.09

1.37

41.46

**Optional** · 04-21-18, 01:49 PM

How long does it stay on hold Kona?

**littlekona** · 04-21-18, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by Optional

How long does it stay on hold Kona?

24 hours rolling hold....

**hotcross** · 04-23-18, 04:30 AM

Originally posted by littlekona

...The new policy of reserve funds hold though I cant seem to figure as only a tiny portion of my win bets are held...Plus if you size your bets into a few smaller ones it is a way to kinda get around it too. So it really has not effected me very much at all....Anyone else experience this??

Yes, the portion of previous winning wagers held for 24-hours:

"the amount (stake * odds) of the largest market settlement of the last 24 hours is not available for betting, transfer or withdraw. This means that you can only withdraw your entire bankroll if 24 hours since your last settlement have passed. Only the largest settlement is considered, other settlements have no influence on your available funds."

What this means if you're the type of player who makes a deposit to wager it "all-in" on a single event, assuming you win, there will be a 24-delay/hold before it is available to withdraw. This annoys some people, being that it's a bitcoin-only book.

It doesn't bother me, because I'm a grinder style player. In fact, still having not reached my goal, I haven't ever requested a payout yet with Fairlay. Haven't deposited other than the first time, either. Will say that grading events is timely and no mistakes.

**littlekona** · 04-23-18, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by hotcross

Yes, the portion of previous winning wagers held for 24-hours:

"the amount (stake * odds) of the largest market settlement of the last 24 hours is not available for betting, transfer or withdraw. This means that you can only withdraw your entire bankroll if 24 hours since your last settlement have passed. Only the largest settlement is considered, other settlements have no influence on your available funds."

What this means if you're the type of player who makes a deposit to wager it "all-in" on a single event, assuming you win, there will be a 24-delay/hold before it is available to withdraw. This annoys some people, being that it's a bitcoin-only book.

It doesn't bother me, because I'm a grinder style player. In fact, still having not reached my goal, I haven't ever requested a payout yet with Fairlay. Haven't deposited other than the first time, either. Will say that grading events is timely and no mistakes.

does your stake plus odds get held for the 24 Hours? Mine are always just a tiny portion of the bet and the profit never the whole amount and then released or rolled in 24 hours.

**hotcross** · 04-23-18, 02:54 PM

Kona, honestly I haven't figured out exactly how the "held" amount works on my account because same as you, I have multiple wagers per day. Just like what you said, the amount being held appears to always some fraction of my winning wagers. Couldn't figure out if it's on a time-release every hour or what....didn't look into it deeply. But as I stated in previous post, I assume if it was ONE all-in winning wager, it would probably be held in-full for 24-hours (just guessing that).

**littlekona** · 05-02-18, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by hotcross

Kona, honestly I haven't figured out exactly how the "held" amount works on my account because same as you, I have multiple wagers per day. Just like what you said, the amount being held appears to always some fraction of my winning wagers. Couldn't figure out if it's on a time-release every hour or what....didn't look into it deeply. But as I stated in previous post, I assume if it was ONE all-in winning wager, it would probably be held in-full for 24-hours (just guessing that).

I placed 6 all in bets on horses today and no reserve fund hold on any...I cant figure out not that im complaining

I have been using the betfair family bit more then fairlay for the horses though the overall the odds are a tad better on fairlay with the zero commissions...betfair just grades so fast fairlay takes about 20 mins to garde a race...Fairlay easier and faster to get funds in and out though