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  • Redscot
    SBR MVP
    • 05-16-11
    • 2571

    #4376
    Mornin', looking forward to another profitable week . Kinda surprised the Detroit line opened up even higher for Tex. given the benefit of the extra day rest for Scherzer.
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    • Redscot
      SBR MVP
      • 05-16-11
      • 2571

      #4377


      Wow, sort that one for Siera. Scherzer and Holland had really good seasons, and were lights out the last month of the season. Should be a good game today.
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      • Love The Action
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 11-08-10
        • 10952

        #4378
        Originally posted by Redscot
        http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...am=0&players=0

        Wow, sort that one for Siera. Scherzer and Holland had really good seasons, and were lights out the last month of the season. Should be a good game today.
        Yeah I know....that's what sucks...tougher to find an edge. Actually did more football work yesterday evening so I have to look into these games when I get to work...
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        • Donnie Brasco
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-04-11
          • 862

          #4379
          Under 8.5 juiced @ pinny, just cant trust these two teams under tho. Either could explode. Wonder what we can expect out of Jackson today? Leaning Scherzer ff today.
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          • Trivial
            SBR MVP
            • 11-22-09
            • 1328

            #4380
            Question : Is anyone an SBR pro? Has anyone cashed any points in the store? I never have so just doing research. Thanks.
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            • Love The Action
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-08-10
              • 10952

              #4381
              Just posted four 2x plays for week 6 nfl....good luck

              Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


              Back with MLB later....
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              • Donnie Brasco
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 01-04-11
                • 862

                #4382
                Originally posted by Trivial
                Question : Is anyone an SBR pro? Has anyone cashed any points in the store? I never have so just doing research. Thanks.
                You have to be pro to cash points?
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                • mt675826
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 03-14-11
                  • 30

                  #4383
                  Tough to make a call on today's games. Very small play on both the underdogs just for the value in two games I think are as good as coin tosses, but the higher totals seem set to hook me into the under again... Do you guys think the Brewers' outburst yesterday was the exception (HR derby) that proves the rule (playoffs low scoring, defensive ball, so lean under)? Or have the Brewers' bats returned?
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                  • 815Sox
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-13-10
                    • 1078

                    #4384
                    Originally posted by Donnie Brasco

                    You have to be pro to cash points?
                    Yeah.. I found that out recently as I wanted to order a pizza (my car is in the shop, than my little sisters car that she was letting me use broke down too...) and couldn't do it. They have a few things you can get supposedly not being a pro.
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                    • Love The Action
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 11-08-10
                      • 10952

                      #4385
                      MLB 2011 Playoffs 10/10/11

                      Play #1

                      Cardinals ML (+127) 1x (Locked)


                      These are similar pitchers statistically, but recent form suggests that Jackson has the edge today and I expect the cardinals to tie up the series. Overall the seasonal stats of marcum and jackson are similar, but recent xFIP numbers show Jackson to be the better pitcher heading into this game. In addition, jackson's situational splits and high leverage stats show jackson to be the better pitcher in crunch time. I expect the cards to get the lead and then hold it unlike yesterday. Even though the brewers bullpen is stronger, I think the cards have enough quality arms available to get it done. The brewers can only contain pujols so long and I expect him to have a good game today after struggling against marcum in the past. I have the cards set as +119 dogs on the road so we are getting about 6 cents in value today. I'm rolling the cards for 1x. Good luck.
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                      • italianbandit
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-17-11
                        • 2622

                        #4386
                        Pujols might be hiding a foot injury that may be affecting his power.
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                        • Love The Action
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-08-10
                          • 10952

                          #4387
                          As an fyi, I have a small lean to the rangers, but I think they should not be more than -135, so no play for me. Good luck!
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                          • Love The Action
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-08-10
                            • 10952

                            #4388
                            Originally posted by italianbandit
                            Pujols might be hiding a foot injury that may be affecting his power.
                            I thought he was feeling better from the heel problem, but shrubs anything is possible....have you read anything about it lingering?
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                            • Trivial
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-22-09
                              • 1328

                              #4389
                              Originally posted by Donnie Brasco
                              You have to be pro to cash points?
                              Not sure. That is what I am trying to find out.
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                              • Trivial
                                SBR MVP
                                • 11-22-09
                                • 1328

                                #4390
                                Originally posted by 815Sox
                                Yeah.. I found that out recently as I wanted to order a pizza (my car is in the shop, than my little sisters car that she was letting me use broke down too...) and couldn't do it. They have a few things you can get supposedly not being a pro.
                                So you cannot get anything as a non pro?
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                                • Trivial
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-22-09
                                  • 1328

                                  #4391
                                  Thanks LTA. On your pick, plus Texas.
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                                  • 815Sox
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-13-10
                                    • 1078

                                    #4392
                                    Originally posted by Trivial

                                    So you cannot get anything as a non pro?
                                    I want to say their are a few items but no. They are called something like "non-pro"
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                                    • Trivial
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-22-09
                                      • 1328

                                      #4393
                                      Originally posted by 815Sox
                                      I want to say their are a few items but no. They are called something like "non-pro"
                                      Thanks. I need to either become pro somehow or stop wasting my time playing sbr poker.
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                                      • Love The Action
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-08-10
                                        • 10952

                                        #4394
                                        If you invest through an online book who sponsors sbr, it makes sense to become a pro. If you are like me and invest solely through local books, then it makes no sense to become a pro. At least that's the way I view it. Why, as a us citizen, would I risk my money offshore if I have honest and reputable local books to use....
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                                        • southpaw74
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-21-09
                                          • 7104

                                          #4395
                                          All you would need to do though is deposit 300 at 5dimes, become a pro, play a few games and take your mo ey back out if you want. It's not hard and then you can get free pizzas or **** gift cards by being a pro. That's what I did at least. Good luck today fellas...
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                                          • Trivial
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 11-22-09
                                            • 1328

                                            #4396
                                            Originally posted by Love The Action
                                            If you invest through an online book who sponsors sbr, it makes sense to become a pro. If you are like me and invest solely through local books, then it makes no sense to become a pro. At least that's the way I view it. Why, as a us citizen, would I risk my money offshore if I have honest and reputable local books to use....
                                            Very good point LTA. I did not think local books were fully legit in the USA. but I guess I am wrong. Definitely not here in Canada. Will think about pro since I use offshore.
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                                            • Trivial
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-22-09
                                              • 1328

                                              #4397
                                              Originally posted by southpaw74
                                              All you would need to do though is deposit 300 at 5dimes, become a pro, play a few games and take your mo ey back out if you want. It's not hard and then you can get free pizzas or **** gift cards by being a pro. That's what I did at least. Good luck today fellas...
                                              Thanks. I will become pro tonight.

                                              Any suggestions? I already use pinny, greek and bookmaker. I am guessing next should be 5 dimes?
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                                              • Love The Action
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-08-10
                                                • 10952

                                                #4398
                                                Originally posted by southpaw74
                                                All you would need to do though is deposit 300 at 5dimes, become a pro, play a few games and take your mo ey back out if you want. It's not hard and then you can get free pizzas or **** gift cards by being a pro. That's what I did at least. Good luck today fellas...
                                                Shhh....Paw, be careful buddy, you're scamming the system They are going to revoke your pro status
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                                                • Love The Action
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 11-08-10
                                                  • 10952

                                                  #4399
                                                  Originally posted by Trivial
                                                  Very good point LTA. I did not think local books were fully legit in the USA. but I guess I am wrong. Definitely not here in Canada. Will think about pro since I use offshore.
                                                  Depends on what you mean by "legit"...locals are not "legal" in the us, but as long as they pay out they are legit in my mind....
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                                                  • No coincidences
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-18-10
                                                    • 76300

                                                    #4400
                                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                    Depends on what you mean by "legit"...locals are not "legal" in the us, but as long as they pay out they are legit in my mind....
                                                    Can you be subject to prosecution if your local gets busted and he names names?
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                                                    • Love The Action
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-08-10
                                                      • 10952

                                                      #4401
                                                      Originally posted by Trivial
                                                      Thanks. I will become pro tonight.

                                                      Any suggestions? I already use pinny, greek and bookmaker. I am guessing next should be 5 dimes?
                                                      I would get 5d for sure if I were you...they generally offer fair numbers at fair odds, especially for bases. Bookmaker is useless for baseball.
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                                                      • 815Sox
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-13-10
                                                        • 1078

                                                        #4402
                                                        Originally posted by Trivial

                                                        Thanks. I need to either become pro somehow or stop wasting my time playing sbr poker.

                                                        I really like 5dimes myself.

                                                        There are a few other ways to become pro. I wish they would lower the price on the "charity" option. I would be more than willing to give 50 to 100 bucks. 200 is a little step for me at this point in my life. I'd be that if they lowered the price they would get more donations which would equal more money to "Doctors Without Borders" (very legit charity) in the end.
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                                                        • 815Sox
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-13-10
                                                          • 1078

                                                          #4403
                                                          Originally posted by No coincidences

                                                          Can you be subject to prosecution if your local gets busted and he names names?
                                                          The cops most likely wouldn't be interested in the bookies clients, more so who they work for (if they do work for somebody). Part of the reason I do not use local bookies is I haven't found one that isn't obviously tied to the mafia here in my city. I do not bet very large and have never gotten into debt or fiscal trouble, but still doesn't seem like a risk I want to take. Especially considering how much easier it is at 5dimes.
                                                          Last edited by 815Sox; 10-10-11, 03:07 PM.
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                                                          • BiffTFinancial
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-29-09
                                                            • 22670

                                                            #4404
                                                            Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                            Can you be subject to prosecution if your local gets busted and he names names?
                                                            in theory, yes. in practice/actuality, no, unless you are involved in other nefarious activities. the DOJ has essentially taken a non-enforcement position regarding individuals placing bets (whether online or via locals). to put it another way, the US government doesn't enforce that laws that make it illegal for you to wager online or with a local, but they will prosecute the person who accepts the juice. the bottom-line is that it's not worth the expense of prosecuting something so ubiquitous and with such relatively modest amounts involved (i.e., a bookie taking $20k in football bets over the weekend is worth prosecuting, but his 100 customers each with roughly 200 bucks in action are not worth it).

                                                            check this out, i found it interesting (though it does not address your specific question): http://vegasclick.com/online/legal.html
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                                                            • Love The Action
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-08-10
                                                              • 10952

                                                              #4405
                                                              Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                              Can you be subject to prosecution if your local gets busted and he names names?
                                                              No. In the U.S., it is illegal to take bets (i.e. operate a book) but not necessarily make the bets (i.e. invest like you or me) unless you are doing so through fraudulent means such as "fixing" the game. Now, you could be pursued by the IRS for unclaimed income but I suspect that would only be the case where the amounts are significant and even then that is a very tough case to prove. Basically, US law prohibits bookmaking, but not nessarily betting....
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                                                              • BiffTFinancial
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 01-29-09
                                                                • 22670

                                                                #4406
                                                                Originally posted by 815Sox
                                                                The cops most likely wouldn't be interested in the bookies clients, more so who they work for. Part of the reason I do not use local bookies is I haven't found one that isn't obviously tied to the mafia here in my city.
                                                                yeah, the bigger risk, in my experience, is that the guy will get in trouble for something else or a client will have a crappy run and blow the whistle on him to avoid paying. i definitely wouldn't place action with a local without cashing out regularly, that's a short-term occupation for many.
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                                                                • BiffTFinancial
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 01-29-09
                                                                  • 22670

                                                                  #4407
                                                                  Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                  No. In the U.S., it is illegal to take bets (i.e. operate a book) but not necessarily make the bets (i.e. invest like you or me) unless you are doing so through fraudulent means such as "fixing" the game. Now, you could be pursued by the IRS for unclaimed income but I suspect that would only be the case where the amounts are significant and even then that is a very tough case to prove. Basically, US law prohibits bookmaking, but not nessarily betting....
                                                                  you said it better than i, LTA. at the most, it's an unenforced gray area. at the least, the government can't really control what i'm doing with my money in other countries until i repatriate the income (which is why UIGEA is such a silly law). you are correct about IRS, something i'm not willing to mess around with. my accountant advised me years ago to declare nominal amounts of gambling winnings on my tax return, which i do in any year in which i take big cash-outs.
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                                                                  • Trivial
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-22-09
                                                                    • 1328

                                                                    #4408
                                                                    Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                    Shhh....Paw, be careful buddy, you're scamming the system They are going to revoke your pro status



                                                                    I guess they can, but it is not against the rules.
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                                                                    • Trivial
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-22-09
                                                                      • 1328

                                                                      #4409
                                                                      Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                      Depends on what you mean by "legit"...locals are not "legal" in the us, but as long as they pay out they are legit in my mind....
                                                                      Fair enough.
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                                                                      • Trivial
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-22-09
                                                                        • 1328

                                                                        #4410
                                                                        Originally posted by Love The Action
                                                                        I would get 5d for sure if I were you...they generally offer fair numbers at fair odds, especially for bases. Bookmaker is useless for baseball.
                                                                        Thanks LTA. I use bm just for football.
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