Shut Out System

packster77 · 07-21-11, 06:22 AM

Pagodo I believe you mentioned you were trying different labby lines when you find the one you like the best would you mind posting an example for us to check out thanks

GGPLAYER · 07-21-11, 08:10 AM

I don't think all of these teams are playing today.

thelimit0310 · 07-21-11, 10:32 AM

Important

Cincinnati, Baltimore, and San Francisco are not playing their game tonight for the Fade system. Pittsburgh, Boston, and LA Dodgers are not playing their game tonight for the Tail system.

pagodo · 07-21-11, 02:41 PM

Thank you, thelimit,

It's insane with work at the moment.
I'd love to watch some baseball, but I won't be able to for the next three weeks probably

pagodo · 07-21-11, 02:44 PM

Originally posted by packster77

Pagodo I believe you mentioned you were trying different labby lines when you find the one you like the best would you mind posting an example for us to check out thanks

No problem, I'll try to put it up for you as soon as I have some time off!
I'm currently playing almost the same way as thelimit, but more games (almost all series, really) and I've got a line for games 1+6, 2+5 and 3+4 whereas thelimit sets up lines for games 1+4, 2+5 and 3+6 (have I got this right?)

thelimit0310 · 07-21-11, 03:30 PM

Yes Pagodo thats right, and both ways seem to perform just fine!

pagodo · 07-22-11, 07:25 AM

Lots of plays = $ to be made!

Good luck

UPDATE
Friday, 7/22

Shutouts on Thursday (7/21):
ARI vs MIL, 4-0
LAA vs TEX, 1-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/21)

fade Milwaukee, game 3

fade LA Angels, game 2

fade Tampa Bay, game 1

Plays for 7/22:
fade LA Angels, game 3
fade Tampa Bay, game 2
fade Cincinnati, game 2
fade Baltimore, game 1
fade San Francisco, game 1
fade Milwaukee, game 1
fade Texas, game 1

Game 1: 102-103
Game 2: 54-47
Game 3: 22-24
Game 4: 14-10
Game 5: 6-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (201-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/21)

tail Arizona, game 3

tail Texas, game 2

tail NY Yankees, game 1

Plays for 7/22:
tail Texas, game 3
tail NY Yankees, game 2
tail Pittsburgh, game 2
tail Boston, game 1
tail Arizona, game 1
tail LA Dodgers, game 1
tail LA Angels, game 1

Game 1: 102-103
Game 2: 54-47
Game 3: 23-23
Game 4: 7-16
Game 5: 6-10
Game 6: 6-4

SYSTEM 2 = (198-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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apwmel · 07-22-11, 09:43 AM

A lot of plays but it's all good. GL all.

alexknyc · 07-22-11, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by apwmel

A lot of plays but it's all good. GL all.

Some of these plays are both sides of the same game.

thelimit0310 · 07-22-11, 11:08 AM

Yeah, at least for the fade system, 4 picks all tie in to 2 games. So really not too many bets, don't worry!

pagodo · 07-22-11, 03:55 PM

I love conflicting chases. Properly managed labby takes care of everything and makes money for you without fail

I've got a very busy Saturday tomorrow, so I'll post the update later during the day, but I should manage to drop by before 11:30 ET.

timmyboy34243 · 07-22-11, 06:54 PM

" conflicting Chases " do you just pend these until they move along to play another team? how are they to be handled?

thelimit0310 · 07-23-11, 08:50 AM

You play them both

pagodo · 07-23-11, 08:52 AM

UPDATE
Saturday, 7/23

Shutouts on Friday (7/22):
CWS @ CLE, 3-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/22)

fade LA Angels, game 3

fade Tampa Bay, game 2

fade Cincinnati, game 2

fade Baltimore, game 1

fade San Francisco, game 1

fade Milwaukee, game 1

fade Texas, game 1

Plays for 7/23:
fade LA Angels, game 4
fade Texas, game 2
fade Milwaukee, game 2
fade Cleveland, game 1

Game 1: 104-105
Game 2: 56-47
Game 3: 22-25
Game 4: 14-10
Game 5: 6-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (205-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/22)

tail Texas, game 3

tail NY Yankees, game 2

tail Pittsburgh, game 2

tail Boston, game 1

tail Arizona, game 1

tail LA Dodgers, game 1

tail LA Angels, game 1

Plays for 7/23:
tail Pittsburgh, game 3
tail Arizona, game 2
tail LA Dodgers, game 2
tail Ch White Sox, game 1

Game 1: 104-105
Game 2: 55-48
Game 3: 24-23
Game 4: 7-16
Game 5: 6-10
Game 6: 6-4

SYSTEM 2 = (202-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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thelimit0310 · 07-23-11, 09:34 AM

I was a Greek player, and Greek closed out to Americans this morning. My account balance is transferring to Heritage, which is both a good and bad thing, but I'll deal with it. Just hope I don't miss these games!

timmyboy34243 · 07-23-11, 10:23 AM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

You play them both

On the fade:

Why, you lose the juice, would it not make sense to wait 1 game and then fade the winner???
and ****-versa on the bet the winner system

thelimit0310 · 07-23-11, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by timmyboy34243

On the fade:

Why, you lose the juice, would it not make sense to wait 1 game and then fade the winner???
and ****-versa on the bet the winner system

Your not flat betting this system are you? Your statement only makes sense if your flat betting these games. If your chasing each series or labbying each series like your supposed to, then you recover the loss with the win. Your skipping out on a unit for each conflicting series by waiting.

timmyboy34243 · 07-23-11, 10:31 AM

not flat betting but possibly not using the " labby " correctly????

just hard for me to reason that they're both one a game 1 fade to make a play.........someone help me understand my error.

thelimit0310 · 07-23-11, 10:38 AM

if they were both game 1s, your labby would be

5-5-5-5

subtract the win from the line:

5-5

now divide the loss into the line (lost 10) your line now looks like this:

6.7-6.7-6.7

The lost series is on your line now, so when it clears you will have recovered what you lost on betting the losing side. Always bet both sides

thelimit0310 · 07-23-11, 12:13 PM

Just an update on my account, I've been transferred to Heritage Sportsbook now, my account balance still intact. Everything is fine now, just got to get used to my new book. Good luck today everyone!

zeusky · 07-23-11, 01:55 PM

The Angels will come down to earth today; GL everyone.

pagodo · 07-23-11, 03:08 PM

Good luck, everyone

Go Orioles!
(This sounds so wrong.)

thelimit0310 · 07-24-11, 08:14 AM

CWS vs CLE got rained out, looks like the game comes back around in September, it was a Game 1 so I'm just going to forget about it. There were no new Shut Outs yesterday so the games that lost yesterday play them again today. I know for the Fade system the only play today is Fade Texas. Good luck

pagodo · 07-24-11, 10:31 AM

The CWS and CLE chases continue, thelimit, no reason to stay away!

UPDATE
Sunday, 7/24

No shutouts on Saturday (7/23).

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/23)

fade LA Angels, game 4

fade Texas, game 2

fade Milwaukee, game 2

Plays for 7/24:
fade Texas, game 3
fade Cleveland, game 1

Game 1: 104-105
Game 2: 57-48
Game 3: 22-25
Game 4: 15-10
Game 5: 6-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (207-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/23)

tail Pittsburgh, game 3

tail Arizona, game 2

tail LA Dodgers, game 2

Plays for 7/24:
tail Pittsburgh, game 4
tail Ch White Sox, game 1

Game 1: 104-105
Game 2: 57-48
Game 3: 24-24
Game 4: 7-16
Game 5: 6-10
Game 6: 6-4

SYSTEM 2 = (204-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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packster77 · 07-25-11, 07:16 AM

im familiar with the labby but im just not understanding how you use the labby when there are so many games to play if someone has time can you give me an example on how you are playing the games thanks

pagodo · 07-25-11, 08:30 AM

UPDATE
Monday, 7/25

Shutouts on Sunday (7/24):
TB @ KC, 5-0
TOR @ TEX, 3-0
ARI vs COL, 7-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/24)

fade Texas, game 3

fade Cleveland, game 1

Plays for 7/25:
fade Kansas City, game 1
fade Texas, game 1
fade Colorado, game 1

Game 1: 105-105
Game 2: 57-48
Game 3: 23-25
Game 4: 15-10
Game 5: 6-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (209-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/24)

tail Pittsburgh, game 4

tail Ch White Sox, game 1

Plays for 7/25:
tail Tampa Bay, game 1
(pending: tail TOR g1, tail ARI g1)

Game 1: 105-105
Game 2: 57-48
Game 3: 24-24
Game 4: 8-16
Game 5: 6-10
Game 6: 6-4

SYSTEM 2 = (206-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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goodone · 07-25-11, 12:05 PM

[QUOTE=pagodo;10832813]The CWS and CLE chases continue, thelimit, no reason to stay away!

Too bad I missed this quote, missed out on 2 units more, but let's not look back, it's simply going great, thanks for the shut out system and keep up the good work guys!

mitchp · 07-25-11, 01:39 PM

Hello to all, glad to see this thread is still alive and people are making money. Even though I started this thread, for many reasons I had to take a break, plean on joining in next year. Have a couple questions for those still in the game, please forgive me if they have been asked and answered already. We all know that this system must be played with a labby, but are people using a different labby for each series (by series I mean fading till there is another loss)or has someone come up with a better mouse trap. Also has anyone figured out what is might cost to go to and lose the 6th game?

Thanks
Mitch

goodone · 07-25-11, 03:39 PM

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/24)

tail Pittsburgh, game 4

tail Ch White Sox, game 1

[B]Plays for 7/25:
tail Tampa Bay, game 1
tail Toronto, game 1
tail Arizona, game 1

Hi Guys, aren't the TOR and ARI games for tomorrow (7/26) instead of today 7/25??

pagodo · 07-25-11, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by goodone

Hi Guys, aren't the TOR and ARI games for tomorrow (7/26) instead of today 7/25??

Fixed.

Thank you!

I keep forgetting about the pending games on Mondays and Thursdays.

pagodo · 07-25-11, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by mitchp

Hello to all, glad to see this thread is still alive and people are making money. Even though I started this thread, for many reasons I had to take a break, plean on joining in next year. Have a couple questions for those still in the game, please forgive me if they have been asked and answered already. We all know that this system must be played with a labby, but are people using a different labby for each series (by series I mean fading till there is another loss)or has someone come up with a better mouse trap. Also has anyone figured out what is might cost to go to and lose the 6th game?

Thanks
Mitch

Hi, MitchP,

Thanks for creating the thread, it's been a great ride

The best way to play this in my opinion is three labby lines, one for games 1+6, one for games 2+5, one for games 3+4. The number of units on the line and the clearing speed (2-, 3-, 4-strike) is a preference of the bettor. Read through the last 7-8 pages, there's loads of info on how we play the system. I'm also currently analyzing this strategy's performance on a two-line labby. It's looking very good, but I think I'll gather data this year and prepare a rundown for next season. I will be playing three lines til the end of the year.

Note: when playing three lines, a system loss is just two single losses per line. That's the beauty of the labby, you can get it all back and record profit after two-three days on a good run or after four-five days on an average one.

pagodo · 07-26-11, 07:44 AM

UPDATE
Tuesday, 7/26

No shutouts on Monday (7/25).

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/25)

fade Kansas City, game 1

fade Texas, game 1

fade Colorado, game 1

Plays for 7/26:
fade Kansas City, game 2
fade Texas, game 2

Game 1: 106-107
Game 2: 57-48
Game 3: 23-25
Game 4: 15-10
Game 5: 6-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (210-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/25)

tail Tampa Bay, game 1

Plays for 7/26:
tail Tampa Bay, game 2
tail Toronto, game 1
tail Arizona, game 1

Game 1: 105-106
Game 2: 57-48
Game 3: 24-24
Game 4: 8-16
Game 5: 6-10
Game 6: 6-4

SYSTEM 2 = (206-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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zeusky · 07-26-11, 05:28 PM

Good luck everyone.

pagodo · 07-27-11, 09:05 AM

UPDATE
Wednesday, 7/27

No shutouts on Tuesday (7/26), two days straight!

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/26)

fade Kansas City, game 2

fade Texas, game 2

Plays for 7/27:
none

Game 1: 106-107
Game 2: 59-48
Game 3: 23-25
Game 4: 15-10
Game 5: 6-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (212-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/26)

tail Tampa Bay, game 2

tail Toronto, game 1

tail Arizona, game 1

Plays for 7/27:
tail Tampa Bay, game 3
tail Toronto, game 2

Game 1: 106-107
Game 2: 57-49
Game 3: 24-24
Game 4: 8-16
Game 5: 6-10
Game 6: 6-4

SYSTEM 2 = (207-4)

---
For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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thelimit0310 · 07-27-11, 09:57 AM

Wow, no plays for the fade system! Didn't expect that to happen! But I could use a day off every so often; hopefully there are some shut outs tonight! Has this happened at all earlier this season?