Shut Out System

zeusky · 07-01-11, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by GGPLAYER

Now I'm on board with that one.

I hope this one hits today as I will be traveling during the weekend and won't have time to bet.

thelimit0310 · 07-01-11, 11:09 AM

Lots of plays! Layin down a lot of money tonight, hope things go smooth

Lank66 · 07-01-11, 11:19 AM

Going to have to fade St. Louis as well and go with Milwaukee over the awful Minnesota.

nitsuj378 · 07-01-11, 07:59 PM

STL is so hot right now. Seems like they score so quickly.

thelimit0310 · 07-02-11, 01:00 AM

Game 1s been under performing the past few days, hoping for a turn around

pagodo · 07-02-11, 04:33 AM

Shutout extravaganza yesterday, people, get your labby lines ready and let's go

UPDATE
Saturday, 7/2

Shutouts on Friday:
ATL vs BAL, 4-0
COL vs KC, 9-0
SEA vs SD, 6-0
LAD @ LAA, 5-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/1)

fade St Louis, game 4

fade Florida, game 3

fade Minnesota, game 3

fade Washington, game 1

fade Milwaukee, game 1

fade Texas, game 1

fade LA Dodgers, game 1

Plays for 7/2:
fade St Louis, game 5
fade Minnesota, game 4
fade Washington, game 2 (and game 3, later tonight, if Washington wins)
fade Texas, game 2
fade LA Dodgers, game 2
fade Baltimore, game 1
fade Kansas City, game 1
fade San Diego, game 1
fade LA Angels, game 1

Game 1: 84-87
Game 2: 45-39
Game 3: 18-21
Game 4: 11-9
Game 5: 4-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (165-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/1)

tail LA Dodgers, game 3

tail Oakland, game 3

tail NY Yankees, game 1

tail Minnesota, game 1

tail Houston, game 1

tail LA Angels, game 1

Plays for 7/2:
tail LA Angels, game 2
tail Houston, game 2
tail Atlanta, game 1
tail Colorado, game 1
tail Seattle, game 1
tail LA Dodgers, game 1

Game 1: 83-88
Game 2: 46-40
Game 3: 21-19
Game 4: 6-13
Game 5: 5-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (165-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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nitsuj378 · 07-02-11, 06:32 AM

Full card today. Lots of action. I love it!

GGPLAYER · 07-02-11, 07:28 AM

I'm riding the fade against StL...come'on TB!

thelimit0310 · 07-02-11, 10:45 AM

Washington has it's Game 3 later today guys, if the afternoon bet fails make sure you go back in today for the Game 3 bet. Good luck everyone.

pagodo · 07-03-11, 06:16 AM

FADE WAVE!

Sunday, 7/3

Shutouts on Saturday:
CWS @ ChC, 1-0
SD @ SEA, 1-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/2)

fade St Louis, game 5

fade Minnesota, game 4

fade Washington, game 2

fade Texas, game 2

fade LA Dodgers, game 2

fade Baltimore, game 1

fade Kansas City, game 1

fade San Diego, game 1

fade LA Angels, game 1

Plays for 7/3:
fade LA Angels, game 2
fade San Diego, game 2
fade Seattle, game 1
fade Ch Cubs, game 1

Game 1: 86-89
Game 2: 48-39
Game 3: 18-21
Game 4: 12-9
Game 5: 5-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (172-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/2)

tail LA Angels, game 2

tail Houston, game 2

tail Atlanta, game 1

tail Colorado, game 1

tail Seattle, game 1

tail LA Dodgers, game 1

Plays for 7/3:
tail Houston, game 3
tail Seattle, game 2
tail LA Dodgers, game 2
tail San Diego, game 1
tail Ch White Sox, game 1

Game 1: 85-90
Game 2: 47-41
Game 3: 21-19
Game 4: 6-13
Game 5: 5-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (168-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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GGPLAYER · 07-03-11, 08:23 AM

Finally StL lost!

pagodo · 07-03-11, 11:34 AM

I'm starting to tail Houston now. It's the best possible moment with the super fat plus money line. The chances of these guys winning tonight against Boston and Beckett are like 0.01%, but we'll get em @ games 4-6 if tonight goes as it should by the laws of probability.

Good luck, guys!

And thanks for the points, Prime1, VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. Hope you're making

with us!

pagodo · 07-04-11, 03:58 AM

UPDATE
Monday, 7/4

No shutouts on Sunday.

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/3)

fade LA Angels, game 2

fade San Diego, game 2

fade Seattle, game 1

fade Ch Cubs, game 1

Plays for 7/4:
fade LA Angels, game 3
fade Seattle, game 2
fade Ch Cubs, game 2

Game 1: 86-91
Game 2: 49-40
Game 3: 18-21
Game 4: 12-9
Game 5: 5-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (173-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/3)

tail Houston, game 3

tail Seattle, game 2

tail LA Dodgers, game 2

tail San Diego, game 1

tail Ch White Sox, game 1

Plays for 7/4:
tail Houston, game 4
tail LA Dodgers, game 3
tail San Diego, game 2
tail Ch White Sox, game 2

Game 1: 85-92
Game 2: 48-42
Game 3: 21-20
Game 4: 6-13
Game 5: 5-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (169-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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thelimit0310 · 07-04-11, 05:48 AM

Thanks for the early post Pagodo, nice being able to place my bets early and get out. Too bad the Cubs aren't listed yet

GGPLAYER · 07-04-11, 06:02 AM

Now I'm on Houston....good spot for them today. Remember kids don't blow your fingers off with fireworks....let me show you something (Fire Marshall Bill).

apwmel · 07-04-11, 08:15 AM

GL to all today,

zeusky · 07-04-11, 12:03 PM

Happy 4th of July guys! Let's get these today.

pagodo · 07-05-11, 03:01 AM

UPDATE
Tuesday, 7/5

Shutouts on Monday:
PHI @ FLA, 1-0
STL vs CIN, 1-0
MIN vs TB, 7-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/4)

fade LA Angels, game 3

fade Seattle, game 2

fade Ch Cubs, game 2

Plays for 7/5:
fade LA Angels, game 4
fade Seattle, game 3
fade Tampa Bay, game 1
fade Florida, game 1
fade Cincinnati, game 1

Game 1: 86-91
Game 2: 50-41
Game 3: 18-22
Game 4: 12-9
Game 5: 5-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (174-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/4)

tail Houston, game 4

tail LA Dodgers, game 3

tail San Diego, game 2

tail Ch White Sox, game 2

Plays for 7/5:
tail Houston, game 5
tail LA Dodgers, game 4
tail Philadelphia, game 1
tail Minnesota, game 1
tail St Louis, game 1

Game 1: 85-92
Game 2: 50-42
Game 3: 21-21
Game 4: 6-14
Game 5: 5-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (171-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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xboxtonx · 07-05-11, 03:52 AM

how does this system works?

cancan · 07-05-11, 04:16 AM

thanks for the picks!

pagodo · 07-05-11, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by xboxtonx

how does this system works?

Dude, one quick look at the post just over yours.
For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445.

Originally posted by cancan

thanks for the picks!

I'm playing all of the games tonight. Lines will be cleared!

thelimit0310 · 07-05-11, 08:46 AM

Hope your right Pagodo! Lots of -money plays, my Game 1/4 Line really needs to pick up! Good luck everyone

zeusky · 07-05-11, 10:09 AM

Good work guys!! Let's keep rolling.

pagodo · 07-05-11, 01:57 PM

Let's get those battle drums ready and clear some lines, people!

I'm really heavy on the Astros tonight (and will be tomorrow if need be), so I might get a bit angry if they screw these two games up. Honestly, beat the Pirates up!

dudekid · 07-05-11, 04:24 PM

hey guys, great job on this system...very well thought out and informative. keep up the great work! ive been reading this thread the past few days, and i was just curious if anyone has tried this using the martingale system instead of labby? if so, was it successful at all? thanks again and keep up the good work

thelimit0310 · 07-05-11, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by dudekid

hey guys, great job on this system...very well thought out and informative. keep up the great work! ive been reading this thread the past few days, and i was just curious if anyone has tried this using the martingale system instead of labby? if so, was it successful at all? thanks again and keep up the good work

System 1 has had 1 loss so far, so let's use lines of -100 (even) to see what effect that had on your bankroll.

Game 1: 100
Game 2: 200
Game 3: 400
Game 4: 800
Game 5: 1500
Game 6: 3000
1 Loss = 6000 lost to win 100.

Now, System 2 has had 4 losses, so for that system your losses total 24,000 lost. If you were following both systems this year, you'd have $30,000 in losses trying to win $100 initially. Now, the wins coming with the losses would offset this for sure, but to put it in perspective, you would have to win 300 bets (the system seems to average about 250 bets per system) to recover your $30,000 from 5 losses. Keep in mind we're only half way through the season.

So, yeah, labby this or don't bother.

DustyDiamond · 07-05-11, 11:05 PM

Awesome job with the thread guys. I'm not playing but I'm cheering you on. thelimit0310 is right this is a labby or bust system. Hope you guys come out big at the end. I'll be in next season, I don't like jumping into systems halfway through.

dudekid · 07-05-11, 11:20 PM

Originally posted by thelimit0310

System 1 has had 1 loss so far, so let's use lines of -100 (even) to see what effect that had on your bankroll. Game 1: 100 Game 2: 200 Game 3: 400 Game 4: 800 Game 5: 1500 Game 6: 3000 1 Loss = 6000 lost to win 100. Now, System 2 has had 4 losses, so for that system your losses total 24,000 lost. If you were following both systems this year, you'd have $30,000 in losses trying to win $100 initially. Now, the wins coming with the losses would offset this for sure, but to put it in perspective, you would have to win 300 bets (the system seems to average about 250 bets per system) to recover your $30,000 from 5 losses. Keep in mind we're only half way through the season. So, yeah, labby this or don't bother.

thanks for the breakdown!

i really like the idea of this system, best of luck going forward

pagodo · 07-06-11, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by DustyDiamond

Awesome job with the thread guys. I'm not playing but I'm cheering you on. thelimit0310 is right this is a labby or bust system. Hope you guys come out big at the end. I'll be in next season, I don't like jumping into systems halfway through.

Hope we have you on board next season then!

At the beginning I thought this system, played right, would simply provide a modest profit with a lot of daily action. I'm running different combinations of labby line strategies on this season's results and I think it might actually provide quite substantial profit, if tackled right. As I said before, this season, for me, is about getting data and in the next season's thread I'll try to give a rundown on pertinent strategies for this system. It's great that thelimit jumped on board, he's playing a traditional labby strategy with this system, so he will have some great data to share as well. I'm ~30 units up since I started playing (and I have 25 units in play after tonight), but I got it a bit wrong at the beginning as I was playing too many lines and changed my strategy twice a week, it could have been quite a lot more. We'll see how it goes and I'll share all my results in the thread.

Nice night yesterday, but I was counting on Houston as I played them on one of my Wallco lines as well.
Let's get them tonight, here's the update:

Wednesday, 7/6

Shutouts on Tuesday:
NYM @ LAD, 6-0
LAA vs DET, 1-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/5)

fade LA Angels, game 4

fade Seattle, game 3

fade Tampa Bay, game 1

fade Florida, game 1

fade Cincinnati, game 1

Plays for 7/6:
fade LA Angels, game 5
fade Seattle, game 4
fade Detroit, game 1
fade LA Dodgers, game 1

Game 1: 89-91
Game 2: 50-41
Game 3: 18-23
Game 4: 12-10
Game 5: 5-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (177-1)

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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (7/5)

tail Houston, game 5

tail LA Dodgers, game 4

tail Philadelphia, game 1

tail Minnesota, game 1

tail St Louis, game 1

Plays for 7/6:
tail Houston, game 6
tail LA Dodgers, game 5
tail LA Angels, game 1
tail NY Mets, game 1

Game 1: 88-92
Game 2: 50-42
Game 3: 21-21
Game 4: 6-15
Game 5: 5-9
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (174-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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GGPLAYER · 07-06-11, 08:08 AM

If the Yanks did not win last night I would be in a gutter right now. I jumped in on the LAD and fade LAA. Plus took TB in the JM V3 play and rode on with Fla and Hou. Then Bos blew a 3-0 lead to push my system integerity bet and to cap things off I played SF as a B bet from G's Pks. I play too many systems...maybe. But you expect when you make 7-8 bets that more than just one will win. Let's go HOUSTON!!!!! I really need that one tonight.

thelimit0310 · 07-06-11, 08:53 AM

Originally posted by GGPLAYER

If the Yanks did not win last night I would be in a gutter right now. I jumped in on the LAD and fade LAA. Plus took TB in the JM V3 play and rode on with Fla and Hou. Then Bos blew a 3-0 lead to push my system integerity bet and to cap things off I played SF as a B bet from G's Pks. I play too many systems...maybe. But you expect when you make 7-8 bets that more than just one will win. Let's go HOUSTON!!!!! I really need that one tonight.

I had this problem as well at the start, playing too many systems at once is dangerous. I learned to never play more than 3, but usually just play 2.

SUPEREAGLE43 · 07-06-11, 09:38 AM

Yep, too many systems will ruin the bankroll. I was running 4 and now Im almost starting over from scratch because of it. Almost tapped out and then just stopped. I am now running only 1, but am considering running this system on a 2 line labby and playing just A and B games or either playing the system out with a 6 line labby.

apwmel · 07-06-11, 10:21 AM

Oak, Hou, Det, and LAD must come through today. GL to all.

zeusky · 07-06-11, 10:28 AM

Big day for us gentlemen; I hope the systems hit their targets today. GL all.

pagodo · 07-06-11, 07:52 PM

Houston has just had a massive top 6th scoring five runs. Took the lead, 5-1. I'm tempted to watch the game, but I'm in Italy now and it's 3 am, I'm barely awake.

Looking at the scores, Oakland and Detroit got the job done, so the fade wave hit the spot again, we had a triple-game-1 hit yesterday and games 4 & 5 went out of the way tonight! Great stuff. Let's hope Houston holds on and the Dodgers manage to come through -- it would be an absolutely perfect round of results for the system.