Shut Out System

[cancan]

gl on your plays today

[pagodo]

Two excellent nights

Twelve wins for the system and all series cleared plus three new shutouts.
Check out the update and good luck tonight!

Sunday, 6/19

Shutouts on Saturday (6/18):
MIN vs SD, 1-0
TOR @ CIN, 4-0
HOU @ LAD, 7-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/18)
fade Boston, game 4
fade Seattle, game 3

Plays for 6/19:
fade Cincinnati, game 1
fade San Diego, game 1
fade LA Dodgers, game 1


Game 1: 75-73
Game 2: 39-34
Game 3: 16-18
Game 4: 10-8
Game 5: 4-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (147-1)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/18)
tail NY Mets, game 3
tail Philadelphia, game 2

Plays for 6/19:
tail Minnesota, game 1
tail Toronto, game 1
tail Houston, game 1


Game 1: 72-76
Game 2: 43-33
Game 3: 17-16
Game 4: 4-12
Game 5: 4-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (144-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
For a rundown on 2009-2010 system losses, check out post #738.
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[pagodo]

Fellow players and forum dwellers, use this data however you may.
Here goes:

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2010 Shutout System Losses:

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SYSTEM 1 (fade)

(1.) Chicago White Sox

Ch White Sox @ Ch Cubs, 0-1
game 1, Ch White Sox @ Pittsburgh, 6-4
game 2, Ch White Sox @ Pittsburgh, 7-2
game 3, Ch White Sox @ Pittsburgh, 5-4
game 4, Ch White Sox @ Washington, 2-1
game 5, Ch White Sox @ Washington, 1-0
game 6, Ch White Sox @ Washington, 6-3


(2.) Chicago Cubs

Ch Cubs @ Milwaukee, 0-2
game 1, Ch Cubs @ St Louis, 5-1
game 2, Ch Cubs @ St Louis, 7-2
game 3, Ch Cubs @ St Louis, 7-3
game 4, Ch Cubs @ Florida, 2-0
game 5, Ch Cubs @ Florida, 5-3
game 6, Ch Cubs @ Florida, 13-3


(3.) Detroit Tigers

Detroit @ Ch White Sox, 0-3
game 1, Detroit vs Pittsburgh, 6-2
game 2, Detroit vs Pittsburgh, 4-3
game 3, Detroit vs Pittsburgh, 4-3
game 4, Detroit vs Washington, 7-4
game 5, Detroit vs Washington, 8-3
game 6, Detroit vs Washington, 8-3


(4.) Los Angeles Dodgers

LA Dodgers vs Colorado, 0-8
game 1, LA Dodgers vs Colorado, 2-0
game 2, LA Dodgers @ Arizona, 7-3
game 3, LA Dodgers @ Arizona, 13-3
game 4, LA Dodgers @ Arizona, 6-3
game 5, LA Dodgers @ San Diego, 4-3
game 6, LA Dodgers @ San Diego, 4-1


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SYSTEM 2 (tail)

(1.) Los Angeles Dodgers (first)

LA Dodgers vs Ch Cubs, 7-0
game 1, LA Dodgers @ St Louis, 1-7
game 2, LA Dodgers @ St Louis, 4-8
game 3, LA Dodgers @ St Louis, 0-2
game 4, LA Dodgers @ St Louis, 4-5
game 5, LA Dodgers vs San Francisco, 2-5
game 6, LA Dodgers vs San Francisco, 5-7


(2.) Los Angeles Dodgers (second!)

LA Dodgers @ San Diego, 2-0
game 1, LA Dodgers @ San Diego, 1-6
game 2, LA Dodgers @ San Diego, 2-3
game 3, LA Dodgers @ San Francisco, 5-6
game 4, LA Dodgers @ San Francisco, 1-2
game 5, LA Dodgers @ San Francisco, 0-2
game 6, LA Dodgers vs San Diego, 5-10


(3.) Colorado Rockies

Colorado @ Florida, 10-0
game 1, Colorado @ Florida, 2-5
game 2, Colorado @ Florida, 2-3
game 3, Colorado @ Philadelphia, 0-6
game 4, Colorado @ Philadelphia, 2-10
game 5, Colorado @ Philadelphia, 3-4
game 6, Colorado @ Philadelphia, 4-5


(4.) Oakland Athletics

Oakland vs Texas, 5-0
game 1, Oakland vs Texas, 3-10
game 2, Oakland vs Texas, 3-4
game 3, Oakland vs Texas, 9-16
game 4, Oakland @ LA Angels, 5-6
game 5, Oakland @ LA Angels, 2-4
game 6, Oakland @ LA Angels, 1-2

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2009 Shutout System Losses:

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SYSTEM 1 (fade)

(1.) New York Yankees

NY Yankees @ Atlanta, 0-4
game 1, NY Yankees @ Atlanta, 8-4
game 2, NY Yankees @ Atlanta, 11-7
game 3, NY Yankees @ NY Mets, 9-1
game 4, NY Yankees @ NY Mets, 5-0
game 5, NY Yankees @ NY Mets, 4-2
game 6, NY Yankees vs Seattle, 8-5


(2.) Oakland Athletics

Oakland @ Minnesota, 0-8
game 1, Oakland @ Texas, 9-0
game 2, Oakland @ Texas, 6-1
game 3, Oakland @ Texas, 4-0
game 4, Oakland vs Cleveland, 5-2
game 5, Oakland vs Cleveland, 2-1
game 6, Oakland vs Cleveland, 8-4


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SYSTEM 2 (tail)

(1.) Cleveland Indians

Cleveland vs St Louis, 3-0
game 1, Cleveland vs Milwaukee, 12-14
game 2, Cleveland vs Milwaukee, 5-7
game 3, Cleveland vs Milwaukee, 8-9
game 4, Cleveland vs Ch Cubs, 7-8
game 5, Cleveland vs Ch Cubs, 5-6
game 6, Cleveland vs Ch Cubs, 2-6


(2.) Atlanta Braves
(the last six games of the regular season!)

Atlanta vs Florida, 4-0
game 1, Atlanta vs Florida, 4-5
game 2, Atlanta vs Florida, 4-5
game 3, Atlanta vs Washington, 1-2
game 4, Atlanta vs Washington, 3-6
game 5, Atlanta vs Washington, 4-6
game 6, Atlanta vs Washington, 1-2

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Note: black666's backtest posted five losses for system 2 in 2009; the reason for the discrepancy is that this system has been played as a five-game chase and there were three additional game 6 wins if you take those into account. I'm wondering about the nine losses in 2008, how many of these had a game 6 win as well; 2008 posted.

[cancan]

good luck on ur pick

[pagodo]

UPDATE
Monday, 6/20

Shutouts on Sunday (6/19):
SEA vs PHI, 2-0
LAD vs HOU, 1-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/19)
fade Cincinnati, game 1
fade LA Dodgers, game 1
fade San Diego, game 1

Plays for 6/20:
fade Cincinnati, game 2
fade LA Dodgers, game 2
fade Houston, game 1
(pending: fade PHI g1)

Game 1: 76-75
Game 2: 39-34
Game 3: 16-18
Game 4: 10-8
Game 5: 4-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (148-1)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/19)
tail Minnesota, game 1
tail Toronto, game 1
tail Houston, game 1

Plays for 6/20:
tail Toronto, game 2
tail Houston, game 2
tail LA Dodgers, game 1
(pending: tail SEA g1)

Game 1: 73-78
Game 2: 43-33
Game 3: 17-16
Game 4: 4-12
Game 5: 4-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (145-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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[apwmel]

Thanks for the updates. GL to all.

[pagodo]

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2008 Shutout System Losses:

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SYSTEM 1 (fade)

(1.) Tampa Bay Rays

Tampa Bay vs Ch White Sox, 0-6
game 1, Tampa Bay vs Toronto, 6-4
game 2, Tampa Bay vs Toronto, 5-3
game 3, Tampa Bay vs Toronto, 5-3
game 4, Tampa Bay vs Boston, 5-4
game 5, Tampa Bay vs Boston, 2-1
game 6, Tampa Bay vs Boston, 3-0


(2.) Chicago White Sox

Ch White Sox @ LA Angels, 0-2
game 1, Ch White Sox @ LA Angels, 6-1
game 2, Ch White Sox @ LA Angels, 4-3
game 3, Ch White Sox @ San Francisco, 2-0
game 4, Ch White Sox @ San Francisco, 3-1
game 5, Ch White Sox @ San Francisco, 13-8
game 6, Ch White Sox vs Cleveland, 4-1


(3.) Chicago White Sox

Ch White Sox @ LA Dodgers, 0-5
game 1, Ch White Sox @ LA Dodgers, 2-0
game 2, Ch White Sox vs Ch Cubs, 10-3
game 3, Ch White Sox vs Ch Cubs, 6-5
game 4, Ch White Sox vs Ch Cubs, 5-1
game 5, Ch White Sox vs Cleveland, 9-7
game 6, Ch White Sox vs Cleveland, 3-2


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SYSTEM 2 (tail)

(1.) Washington Nationals

Washington @ Philadelphia, 1-0
game 1, Washington @ Philadelphia, 7-8
game 2, Washington @ St Louis, 4-5
game 3, Washington @ St Louis, 4-5
game 4, Washington @ St Louis, 0-3
game 5, Washington vs Florida, 7-10
game 6, Washington vs Florida, 4-10


(2.) Cleveland Indians

Cleveland vs Cincinnati, 6-0
game 1, Cleveland vs Cincinnati, 0-5
game 2, Cleveland vs Cincinnati, 5-9
game 3, Cleveland @ Ch White Sox, 7-9
game 4, Cleveland @ Ch White Sox, 2-3
game 5, Cleveland @ Ch White Sox, 5-6
game 6, Cleveland @ Minnesota, 3-12


(3.) San Diego Padres

San Diego vs Atlanta, 4-0
game 1, San Diego vs Atlanta, 1-4
game 2, San Diego vs Atlanta, 3-12
game 3, San Diego @ St Louis, 3-4
game 4, San Diego @ St Louis, 7-11
game 5, San Diego @ St Louis, 5-6
game 6, San Diego @ St Louis, 5-9


(4.) Pittsburgh Pirates

Pittsburgh @ San Francisco, 7-0
game 1, Pittsburgh @ San Francisco, 6-7
game 2, Pittsburgh @ San Francisco, 6-11
game 3, Pittsburgh @ Houston, 2-3
game 4, Pittsburgh @ Houston, 3-9
game 5, Pittsburgh @ Houston, 4-7
game 6, Pittsburgh @ Houston, 0-6


(5.) Baltimore Orioles

Baltimore @ Toronto, 2-0
game 1, Baltimore @ Toronto, 7-8
game 2, Baltimore @ Toronto, 2-3
game 3, Baltimore @ NY Yankees, 2-3
game 4, Baltimore @ NY Yankees, 0-1
game 5, Baltimore @ NY Yankees, 3-7
game 6, Baltimore vs Tampa Bay, 2-4

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Note: As in the case of 2009, nine losses were recorded when playing system 2 as a five-game chase, but with the six-game rule in place, the number of losses for 2008 is reduced to five (four game 6 wins).

[goodone]

Nice job pagodo!

[pagodo]

Thanks

Let us continue making money!

See you tomorrow with the update.

[DustyDiamond]

Glad to see the system is doing well. How many units are people up?

[pagodo]

Started tailing not that long ago actually, a few weeks ago, using a labby with a starting unit size 0.18% roll.
Cleared 23 lines already, that's 4,14% ROI.

[pagodo]

UPDATE
Tuesday, 6/21

Shutouts on Monday (6/20):
ATL vs TOR, 2-0
LAD vs DET, 4-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/20)
fade Cincinnati, game 2
fade LA Dodgers, game 2
fade Houston, game 1

Plays for 6/21:
fade LA Dodgers, game 3
fade Toronto, game 1
fade Detroit, game 1
fade Philadelphia, game 1


Game 1: 77-75
Game 2: 40-35
Game 3: 16-18
Game 4: 10-8
Game 5: 4-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (150-1)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/20)
tail Toronto, game 2
tail Houston, game 2
tail LA Dodgers, game 1

Plays for 6/21:
tail Toronto, game 3
tail Houston, game 3
tail Atlanta, game 1
tail LA Dodgers, game 1
tail Seattle, game 1


Game 1: 74-78
Game 2: 43-35
Game 3: 17-16
Game 4: 4-12
Game 5: 4-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (146-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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[zeusky]

Great work Pagodo; was traveling and hence could not contribute.

[cancan]

Best of luck everyone

[pagodo]

UPDATE
Wednesday, 6/22

No shutouts on Tuesday, 6/21.

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/21)
fade LA Dodgers, game 3
fade Toronto, game 1
fade Detroit, game 1
fade Philadelphia, game 1

Plays for 6/22:
fade LA Dodgers, game 4
fade Philadelphia, game 2


Game 1: 79-76
Game 2: 40-35
Game 3: 16-19
Game 4: 10-8
Game 5: 4-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (152-1)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/21)
tail Toronto, game 3
tail Houston, game 3
tail Atlanta, game 1
tail LA Dodgers, game 1
tail Seattle, game 1

Plays for 6/22:
tail Toronto, game 4
tail Houston, game 4
tail Seattle, game 2


Game 1: 76-79
Game 2: 43-35
Game 3: 17-18
Game 4: 4-12
Game 5: 4-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (148-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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[GGPLAYER]

Great time to jump in with Tor and Hou....nice + odds too!

[cancan]

you are doing a fine job

[pagodo]

Thanks, guys.

Good luck, GGPlayer, I'm a bit bigger than usual on Toronto and Houston as well.

Best of luck on everyone's plays!

[GGPLAYER]

Det has gone from the Dog to the Fav against LAD. I wish I put in my bet earlier.

[zeusky]

Astros are not the most dependable are they

But a lot of + money on the boys from Houston though. Good work Pagodo; I wonder where Prime1 is these days.

[GGPLAYER]

Damn I thought Tor had the most promise today.

[goodone]

Today playing only games 2

[pagodo]

Toronto sucked in Atlanta, but I'm confident they will come through. Big score with Houston and congrats on the Detroit win
Only one shutout in two days and we get another pair of conflicting chases...

UPDATE
Thursday, 6/23

Shutouts on Wednesday (6/22):
PHI @ STL, 4-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/22)
fade LA Dodgers, game 4
fade Philadelphia, game 2

Plays for 6/23:
fade Philadelphia, game 3
fade St Louis, game 1


Game 1: 79-76
Game 2: 40-36
Game 3: 16-19
Game 4: 11-8
Game 5: 4-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (153-1)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/22)
tail Toronto, game 4
tail Houston, game 4
tail Seattle, game 2

Plays for 6/23:
tail Seattle, game 3
tail Philadelphia, game 1
(pending: tail TOR, game 5)

Game 1: 76-79
Game 2: 43-36
Game 3: 17-18
Game 4: 5-13
Game 5: 4-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (149-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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[GGPLAYER]

Cha-ching on Houston!!!!
When it was 1-2 I was kicking myself for not taking the RL but we got the runs and the great odds. I love games like that.

[cancan]

Let's have some winners today

[zeusky]

Cards and Seattle get it done today boys. Thanks Pagodo.

[pagodo]

Cards and Seattle get it done today boys. Thanks Pagodo.

Enjoying this a lot. See you guys tomorrow!

[smclaurin2]

Just a quick question for those who care to reply...are you using a traditional labby or a variation (i.e. three or four strike) ...what does your line structure look like? In other words are you running one line per game or combining games (a line for games 1&2, another line for 3&4 and a third for 5&6...or something similar)? Just curious because I an coming in kind of late and don't want to try and reinvent the wheel if you guys have a system that is working well. It seems like most of the games are hitting close to 50% so even a traditional labby should work pretty well but I don't want to have a bunch of lines all over the place when we have multiple games running at once. From looking back in the thread, I see it is not uncommon to have 5 or 6 games on each side in a day so any help in the structure would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[alexy]

Pagodo, best for you. Sharing is living. God bless you

[cancan]

waiting for new picks
Thank you

[pagodo]

Thanks and good luck with your plays, guys!

Note: we've got an overlap tonight with the Cardinals hosting the Blue Jays; though I have to admit I have a bad feeling about this -- Toronto is a very good team on a slide and barely scoring lately and they're facing two very good pitchers, JW tonight and Garcia tomorrow. I'm putting my money on Toronto as I've been tailing them since game 3, but it looks quite risky.


UPDATE
Friday, 6/24

Shutouts on 6/23:
WSH vs SEA, 1-0

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System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/23)
fade Philadelphia, game 3
fade St Louis, game 1

Plays for 6/24:
fade St Louis, game 2
fade Seattle, game 1


Game 1: 79-77
Game 2: 40-36
Game 3: 17-19
Game 4: 11-8
Game 5: 4-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (154-1)


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System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

Results (6/23)
tail Seattle, game 3
tail Philadelphia, game 1

Plays for 6/24:
tail Toronto, game 5
tail Seattle, game 4
tail Philadelphia, game 2
tail Washington, game 1


Game 1: 76-80
Game 2: 43-36
Game 3: 17-19
Game 4: 5-13
Game 5: 4-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (149-4)

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For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
2008 system losses @ post #742.
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[pagodo]

Just a quick question for those who care to reply...are you using a traditional labby or a variation (i.e. three or four strike) ...what does your line structure look like? In other words are you running one line per game or combining games (a line for games 1&2, another line for 3&4 and a third for 5&6...or something similar)? Just curious because I an coming in kind of late and don't want to try and reinvent the wheel if you guys have a system that is working well. It seems like most of the games are hitting close to 50% so even a traditional labby should work pretty well but I don't want to have a bunch of lines all over the place when we have multiple games running at once. From looking back in the thread, I see it is not uncommon to have 5 or 6 games on each side in a day so any help in the structure would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

My labby lines are a mess and I don't really have a plan in place yet
I'm pretty much restructuring them every few days, I'm still trying to decide which systems I'll be playing and how much money will I be putting in each.

As per the shutout system, I'm always playing game 1 and I decide on the other games looking at the stats and trends, trying to play as many as possible though. If the line goes over -165, I play -1 RL. I'm using a 3-strike approach and a starting line is 3 #'s (which is the amount to win = unit). Unit size = 0.18% of roll. I've got lots of lines for different systems and I sometimes use the shutout lines with different plays, so there's no strategy here to speak of yet, I'll come up with one when the season ends when I have data and experience

The advice I could give you right away would be: use more than three lines and don't go with a big starting unit size. The system is phenomenal, but it's a long hard grind and you have to be very careful.

[GGPLAYER]

Tor -105 on the road at StL?? Hmmm....I hope it's a winner.

[thelimit0310]

Quick tip regarding what kind of labby to run, with the fade system it's seems like games 4-6 don't get much action. Out of 155 games only 19 went to game 4, this means game 4, 5, and 6, are going to take much longer to clear than games 1, 2, and 3. To balance this out I would use 3 lines.

Games 1/4
Games 2/5
Games 3/6

Most games clear by game 3, so there are in my opinion too few plays to really justify having more then 3 lines. For the plays that go to 4+ you have a chance to recoup some of the earlier losses because they are on the same line, instead of giving it a line of its own to clear.

Good luck, really wish I could run this system but I'll have to wait till next season, have to recoup what I lost with Wallco before I add anything else to my arsenal.

[smclaurin2]

Thanks Pagodo and thelimit0310 for the responses. I found SBR at the beginning of the baseball season and started chasing and have now decided that I don't really enjoy the huge ups and downs of chasing. I am going to start small and labby this system the way you layed it out, limit. It seems like a lot less of a rollercoaster ride then the chases I was following.