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  • Prime1
    SBR Hustler
    • 04-02-10
    • 92

    #631
    Zeusky,

    Regarding your post #612. I went back thru my game by game results, and corrected it a few days back, sorry I didn't even see your post until now. If you look at System #2, Game four, I believe the record is correct, with today's Minnesota play "pending". Today's result will fall into the Game 4 of System 2. If you change the record, it needs to correlate with the record above, which would mean that it may be a game off for each game above. I did everything by hand, without a spreadsheet, and it all Adds up. Please review each record and you will see the proper flow with each game. If you look at System 2, the Game 3 record is 13-11 (focus on the 11 losses). The Game 4 (3-7) record, will hopefully be completed today, and then show (4-7) record, a total of 11 completed games, which will be correct and match the number of losses Above = the number of games lost in Game 3. Hope this helps.
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    • zeusky
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-10-09
      • 622

      #632
      OK--I will take care of this thread when you are gone; don't worry bud.
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      • DHB
        SBR MVP
        • 04-14-11
        • 1538

        #633
        looking forward to see how u do your labby lines for this system
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        • zeusky
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-10-09
          • 622

          #634
          System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):
          Plays for 6/2 and 6/3

          fade Angels game 1

          fade Dodgers game1
          fade Rays game 1


          Game 1: 57-55
          Game 2: 29-26
          Game 3: 12-14
          Game 4: 7-7
          Game 5: 3-4
          Game 6: 3-1

          SYSTEM 1 = (111-1)



          System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):
          Plays for 6/2 and 6/3


          tail Minnesota game 5
          tail Texas game 1

          tail Rockies game 1
          tail Royals game 1

          Game 1: 56-55
          Game 2: 31-24
          Game 3: 13-11
          Game 4: 3-8
          Game 5: 0-7
          Game 6: 3-4

          SYSTEM 2 = (106-4)

          For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445 in this thread
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          • cancan
            SBR High Roller
            • 12-11-10
            • 128

            #635
            Best of luck with your picks
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            • atari5200
              Restricted User
              • 09-15-10
              • 464

              #636
              you've listed the plays for 6/2 but some of the plays won't be until tomorrow. Thanks for stepping up anyways. best of luck
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              • Prime1
                SBR Hustler
                • 04-02-10
                • 92

                #637
                System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):
                Plays for 6/2 and 6/3

                fade Angels game 1
                (play is today 6.3.11)
                fade Dodgers game1 (play is today 6.3.11)
                fade Rays game 1


                Game 1: 58-55
                Game 2: 29-26
                Game 3: 12-14
                Game 4: 7-7
                Game 5: 3-4
                Game 6: 3-1

                SYSTEM 1 = (112-1)



                System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):
                Plays for 6/2 and 6/3


                tail Minnesota game 5
                tail Texas game 1

                tail Rockies game 1 (play is today 6.3.11)
                tail Royals game 1

                Game 1: 57-56
                Game 2: 31-24
                Game 3: 13-11
                Game 4: 3-8
                Game 5: 1-7
                Game 6: 3-4

                SYSTEM 2 = (108-4)


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                • cancan
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 12-11-10
                  • 128

                  #638
                  thanks for the picks!
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                  • zeusky
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 12-10-09
                    • 622

                    #639
                    Hey Prime1 good to see you are back; so your travels are done?
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                    • pkaks14
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 01-27-11
                      • 15

                      #640
                      hey folks...new to this thread. are picks in here the same as would come from the James Jones Shut Out System that I am getting emails on? If so, is it system 1, system 2 or something different....

                      thanks and good luck
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                      • c-fut
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 09-17-10
                        • 547

                        #641
                        Someone had asked that question before and if my memory is right than it is the same system. And it would be both systems here
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                        • pagodo
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 05-09-11
                          • 669

                          #642
                          Hi everyone,

                          I've done my homework on the labby lines and how to effectively manage them thanks to some of your posts in this thread and JMD's posts in the Morrison/Wallco thread. I'll be starting to tail both shutout systems using some simple filters to hopefully avoid the losses altogether. This is a brilliant thread, lots of respect to everyone involved!



                          I'll be using six labby lines in total with 4 #'s each - I'm treating system 1 and system 2 as one and I'll be filtering out some plays, so I calculated I won't need more lines.

                          20-20-20-20
                          20-20-20-20
                          20-20-20-20
                          20-20-20-20
                          20-20-20-20
                          20-20-20-20

                          After a night's bets, going with your suggestions, I'll calculate the amount won and lost and reshuffle, so that:
                          -- the lines won't get too long,
                          -- all bets are equal.

                          If anyone's got suggestions about these lines or advice from experience, I would very much appreciate it, I love to chase (JM's earned me some money) but with the shutout plays the labby is a must, so I had to get up to speed.

                          Thanks again everyone for all the work on this thread!
                          Here's to an exceptional year and long live SBR

                          Also, if anyone has trouble keeping updates on plays, I'm available pretty much every day to keep tabs on the system and post the results and plays when needed.

                          --
                          JM/Wallco/Shutout
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                          • goodone
                            SBR Hustler
                            • 05-15-11
                            • 60

                            #643
                            Originally posted by pagodo
                            Hi everyone,

                            I've done my homework on the labby lines and how to effectively manage them thanks to some of your posts in this thread and JMD's posts in the Morrison/Wallco thread. I'll be starting to tail both shutout systems using some simple filters to hopefully avoid the losses altogether. This is a brilliant thread, lots of respect to everyone involved!



                            I'll be using six labby lines in total with 4 #'s each - I'm treating system 1 and system 2 as one and I'll be filtering out some plays, so I calculated I won't need more lines.

                            20-20-20-20
                            20-20-20-20
                            20-20-20-20
                            20-20-20-20
                            20-20-20-20
                            20-20-20-20

                            After a night's bets, going with your suggestions, I'll calculate the amount won and lost and reshuffle, so that:
                            -- the lines won't get too long,
                            -- all bets are equal.

                            If anyone's got suggestions about these lines or advice from experience, I would very much appreciate it, I love to chase (JM's earned me some money) but with the shutout plays the labby is a must, so I had to get up to speed.

                            Thanks again everyone for all the work on this thread!
                            Here's to an exceptional year and long live SBR

                            Also, if anyone has trouble keeping updates on plays, I'm available pretty much every day to keep tabs on the system and post the results and plays when needed.

                            --
                            JM/Wallco/Shutout
                            Very nice! Please do, all efforts are appreciated!!
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                            • Prime1
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 04-02-10
                              • 92

                              #644
                              Originally posted by zeusky
                              Hey Prime1 good to see you are back; so your travels are done?

                              Zeusky,

                              I'm still on the road, northern tier counties of PA, poor or no cell service. Just posting with my Droid when I've got a least one bar of service. Great to see the thread coming together as one community. I'm impressed.
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                              • cancan
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 12-11-10
                                • 128

                                #645
                                best of luck today !!
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                                • Prime1
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 04-02-10
                                  • 92

                                  #646
                                  guess no one has time to update?

                                  I know there is no play on BOS/OAK @ 1pm, but there IS a play on at least one of the 4pm games. Hope I'm back in cell range by 3pm, if no one can post, i will try.
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                                  • pagodo
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-09-11
                                    • 669

                                    #647
                                    Quickly filling in:

                                    UPDATE Sat 6/4
                                    Two shutouts on Friday, starting Saturday we're tailing ARI and SEA, fading WSH and TB.

                                    --
                                    System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

                                    results 6/3
                                    fade Dodgers game 1 WON
                                    fade Angels game 1 LOST

                                    Plays for 6/4
                                    fade Angels game 2
                                    fade Rays game 1
                                    fade Nationals game 1


                                    Game 1: 59-55
                                    Game 2: 29-26
                                    Game 3: 12-14
                                    Game 4: 7-7
                                    Game 5: 3-4
                                    Game 6: 3-1

                                    SYSTEM 1 = (113-1)

                                    --
                                    System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

                                    results 6/3
                                    tail Royals game 2 LOST
                                    tail Rockies game 1 LOST

                                    Plays for 6/4
                                    tail Royals game 3
                                    tail Rockies game 2
                                    tail Arizona game 1
                                    tail Seattle game 1


                                    Game 1: 57-56
                                    Game 2: 31-24
                                    Game 3: 13-11
                                    Game 4: 3-8
                                    Game 5: 1-7
                                    Game 6: 3-4

                                    SYSTEM 2 = (108-4)

                                    --
                                    Good luck, all!
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                                    • pagodo
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 05-09-11
                                      • 669

                                      #648
                                      Originally posted by Prime1
                                      guess no one has time to update?

                                      I know there is no play on BOS/OAK @ 1pm, but there IS a play on at least one of the 4pm games. Hope I'm back in cell range by 3pm, if no one can post, i will try.
                                      Prime1, zeusky,

                                      For the next two weeks it won't be a problem for me to update the plays every morning, if there is a need to. I'll be offline tomorrow for most of the day, but I can drop by in the afternoon and if no one gets to it, post a quick update. But starting Monday, I could keep up with the system play updates for some time.

                                      Cheers and best of luck today
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                                      • spargament
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-22-09
                                        • 1739

                                        #649
                                        BOL
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                                        • zeusky
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-10-09
                                          • 622

                                          #650
                                          Thanks Pagodo; I had a game today. I have another one tomorrow morning but should be able to update the system plays tonight before going to bed.
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                                          • pagodo
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-09-11
                                            • 669

                                            #651
                                            No problem, glad to be of help

                                            OK night for the system, three shutouts on Saturday, it's just the Royals getting on my nerves as I'm chasing them for a JM v3 win as well. It's the [C] bet on Sunday and the Royals look absolutely miserable. Honestly, I can't imagine these guys losing four straight to the Twins at home, they really have some power in their bats, hopefully it's going to get unlocked again on Sunday.

                                            I'll be online around 12:30 EST and prep the update and Sunday's plays if needed.
                                            There will be a play @ 1:00, tailing Texas after they won 4-0 yesterday!

                                            --
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                                            • cancan
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 12-11-10
                                              • 128

                                              #652
                                              Good luck for today plays.
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                                              • zeusky
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 12-10-09
                                                • 622

                                                #653
                                                UPDATE SUN 6/5
                                                Three shutouts on Saturday, starting Sunday we're tailing ARI. Mets and Texas, fading WSH, Indians and Braves .

                                                --
                                                System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

                                                results 6/4

                                                fade Angels game 2 WON
                                                fade Rays game 1 LOST
                                                fade Nationals game 1
                                                WON

                                                plays 6/5

                                                fade Rays Game 2
                                                fade Indians Game 1
                                                fade Braves Game 1
                                                face Washington Game 1


                                                Game 1: 60-56
                                                Game 2: 30-26
                                                Game 3: 12-14
                                                Game 4: 7-7
                                                Game 5: 3-4
                                                Game 6: 3-1

                                                SYSTEM 1 = (115-1)



                                                --
                                                System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

                                                results 6/4

                                                tail Royals game 3 LOST
                                                tail Rockies game 2 WON
                                                tail Arizona game 1 WON
                                                tail Seattle game 1
                                                LOST

                                                plays 6/5

                                                tail Royals game 4
                                                tail Arizona game 1
                                                tail Seattle game 2
                                                tail Mets game 1
                                                tail Texas game 1


                                                Game 1: 58-57
                                                Game 2: 32-24
                                                Game 3: 13-11
                                                Game 4: 3-8
                                                Game 5: 1-7
                                                Game 6: 3-4

                                                SYSTEM 2 = (110-4)


                                                P.S: Pagodo please do a quick check; I was in a hurry! GL everyone.
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                                                • pagodo
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 05-09-11
                                                  • 669

                                                  #654
                                                  Thanks, zeusky

                                                  Managed to take a quick look at the stats and realized I made a mistake yesterday, so these are proper stats for the Shutout System on Sun 6/5 (after Saturday's plays):

                                                  Game 1: 60-57
                                                  Game 2: 30-26 (one game 2 pending)
                                                  Game 3: 12-14
                                                  Game 4: 7-7
                                                  Game 5: 3-4
                                                  Game 6: 3-1

                                                  SYSTEM 1 = (115-1)

                                                  and

                                                  Game 1: 58-58
                                                  Game 2: 32-25 (one game 2 pending)
                                                  Game 3: 13-12
                                                  Game 4: 3-8 (one game 4 pending)
                                                  Game 5: 1-7
                                                  Game 6: 3-4

                                                  SYSTEM 2 = (110-4)

                                                  Now they're spot on, sorry for that mistake, we'll keep it flawless from now on.

                                                  Good luck, everyone!
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                                                  • BigA
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 06-05-11
                                                    • 26

                                                    #655
                                                    Originally posted by pagodo
                                                    Thanks, zeusky

                                                    Managed to take a quick look at the stats and realized I made a mistake yesterday, so these are proper stats for the Shutout System on Sun 6/5 (after Saturday's plays):

                                                    Game 1: 60-57
                                                    Game 2: 30-26 (one game 2 pending)
                                                    Game 3: 12-14
                                                    Game 4: 7-7
                                                    Game 5: 3-4
                                                    Game 6: 3-1

                                                    SYSTEM 1 = (115-1) <------- ??

                                                    and

                                                    Game 1: 58-58
                                                    Game 2: 32-25 (one game 2 pending)
                                                    Game 3: 13-12
                                                    Game 4: 3-8 (one game 4 pending)
                                                    Game 5: 1-7
                                                    Game 6: 3-4

                                                    SYSTEM 2 = (110-4) <-------??
                                                    Now they're spot on, sorry for that mistake, we'll keep it flawless from now on.

                                                    Good luck, everyone!
                                                    long time lurker. decided to join the fun in capping discussion. I got the same james jones email. Can someone explain the number after system 1 and 2? And where can I find the labby rules? thanks
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                                                    • cancan
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 12-11-10
                                                      • 128

                                                      #656
                                                      Keep up the good work guys!
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                                                      • pagodo
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-09-11
                                                        • 669

                                                        #657
                                                        Originally posted by BigA
                                                        long time lurker. decided to join the fun in capping discussion. I got the same james jones email. Can someone explain the number after system 1 and 2? And where can I find the labby rules? thanks
                                                        Hi, BigA,

                                                        The highlighted numbers are system wins/losses. 'System 1 (115-1)' means that in the first shutout system 115 chases ended with a win and only one ended with a loss, which for system 1 means that a team has won six straight games after being shut out. A loss in system 2 means that the team in question has lost six straight games after shutting another team out. This has unfortunately happened four times already this year, which is quite unusual.

                                                        The basic idea of this thread is keeping tabs on every shutout and every following chase. You can decide whether you want to follow one system, both systems or just some chases out of the ones presented. Every player can also use their own filters to decide which chases to follow. Also, you obviously don't want to do a martingale chase with this system, you have to use labby lines. Read through this thread, you'll get the basic idea how to prep and manage your own lines and to understand the principle, check these out:
                                                        Labouchere is a progressive money management system that allows you to make a profit even if you win less than 50% of your sports bets.



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                                                        • pagodo
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 05-09-11
                                                          • 669

                                                          #658
                                                          UPDATE
                                                          Monday, 6/6


                                                          Shutouts on Sunday (6/5):
                                                          TEX@CLE 2-0
                                                          MIN@KC 6-0


                                                          ---
                                                          System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                          Results (6/5)
                                                          fade Tampa Bay game 2 WON
                                                          fade Cleveland game 1 WON
                                                          fade Atlanta game 1 WON
                                                          fade Washington game 1 LOST

                                                          Plays for 6/6:
                                                          fade Washington game 2
                                                          fade Cleveland game 1
                                                          fade Kansas City game 1



                                                          Game 1: 62-59
                                                          Game 2: 32-26
                                                          Game 3: 12-14
                                                          Game 4: 7-7
                                                          Game 5: 3-4
                                                          Game 6: 3-1

                                                          SYSTEM 1 = (119-1)



                                                          ---
                                                          System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                          Results (6/5)
                                                          tail Kansas City game 4 LOST
                                                          tail Seattle game 2 WON
                                                          tail Texas game 1 WON
                                                          tail NY Mets game 1 WON
                                                          tail Arizona game 1 LOST

                                                          Plays for 6/6:
                                                          tail Kansas City game 5
                                                          tail Texas game 1
                                                          tail Minnesota game 1



                                                          Game 1: 60-61
                                                          Game 2: 33-27
                                                          Game 3: 14-13
                                                          Game 4: 3-10
                                                          Game 5: 1-8
                                                          Game 6: 4-4

                                                          SYSTEM 2 = (115-4)



                                                          ---
                                                          For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445 in this thread!
                                                          ---
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                                                          • zeusky
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 12-10-09
                                                            • 622

                                                            #659
                                                            Good one Pagodo; note that the Royals are a play in both the systems.
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                                                            • GGPLAYER
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 03-26-09
                                                              • 2981

                                                              #660
                                                              Originally posted by zeusky
                                                              Good one Pagodo; note that the Royals are a play in both the systems.

                                                              Yeah and I chased them for 3 games....somehow, some way these guys are going to put some cash in my pocket.
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                                                              • pagodo
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 05-09-11
                                                                • 669

                                                                #661
                                                                Originally posted by zeusky
                                                                Good one Pagodo; note that the Royals are a play in both the systems.
                                                                Ha, ha, the Royals ... yeah, lost money too on that v3 chase. Hate these guys with a passion. Brilliant offense at home for pretty much two months straight and a four-game collapse against Minnesota, and when it actually mattered for us bettors. Isn't this the perfect example of the unpredictability of MLB

                                                                I've been looking at the shutout systems stats from previous years and I'm really impressed. As stevex put it, earlier in this thread, with a proper labby management, following a good system will always make you money and this system is just a perfect example, to me it looks like a $ printing machine, looking forward to tailing both of these systems til the end of year. I will be chasing Wallco's system picks as well, so I think this is going to be a great season.

                                                                I'll also doublecheck the shutout systems stats for this year later tonight. Just to make sure they're spot on.

                                                                Best of luck, everyone!
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                                                                • pagodo
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 05-09-11
                                                                  • 669

                                                                  #662

                                                                  UPDATE
                                                                  Tuesday, 6/7

                                                                  Shutouts on Monday (6/6):
                                                                  COL@SD 3-0

                                                                  ---
                                                                  System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                                  Results (6/6)
                                                                  fade Washington, game 2 WON
                                                                  fade Cleveland, game 1 WON
                                                                  fade Kansas City, game 1 LOST

                                                                  Plays for 6/7:
                                                                  fade Kansas City, game 2
                                                                  fade San Diego, game 1


                                                                  Game 1: 63-60
                                                                  Game 2: 33-26
                                                                  Game 3: 12-14
                                                                  Game 4: 7-7
                                                                  Game 5: 3-4
                                                                  Game 6: 3-1

                                                                  SYSTEM 1 = (121-1)


                                                                  ---
                                                                  System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                                  Results (6/6)
                                                                  tail Kansas City, game 5 WON
                                                                  tail Texas, game 1 LOST
                                                                  tail Minnesota, game 1 WON

                                                                  Plays for 6/7:
                                                                  tail Arizona, game 2
                                                                  tail Texas, game 2
                                                                  tail Colorado, game 1


                                                                  Game 1: 61-62
                                                                  Game 2: 33-27
                                                                  Game 3: 14-13
                                                                  Game 4: 3-10
                                                                  Game 5: 2-8
                                                                  Game 6: 4-4

                                                                  SYSTEM 2 = (117-4)

                                                                  ---
                                                                  For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445 in this thread!
                                                                  ---
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                                                                  • cancan
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 12-11-10
                                                                    • 128

                                                                    #663
                                                                    great job , thank you
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                                                                    • zeusky
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                                      • 622

                                                                      #664
                                                                      Good one Pagodo; it's good to see that we have plenty of people here to keep the thread alive.
                                                                      Never doubted the Royals yesterday
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                                                                      • pagodo
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 05-09-11
                                                                        • 669

                                                                        #665
                                                                        My pleasure

                                                                        I'll be able to update daily during the next two weeks.
                                                                        The systems are doing brilliant. Again, thumbs up to everyone who ever participated in this thread, we're making money!

                                                                        Let's keep it up and good luck, everyone!
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