Shut Out System

black666 · 05-22-11, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by apwmel

Why no play on Cin and Det?

Well..there was a play on Tigers game 6 .. but why should the Reds have been a play?

donkson · 05-22-11, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by black666

If you tail a team, you bet on it. If you fade a team, you bet on the opposing team.

yes.

but surely you aren't tailing two teams that play each other.

cancan · 05-23-11, 02:20 AM

Best of luck everyone

black666 · 05-23-11, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by donkson

yes.

but surely you aren't tailing two teams that play each other.

It has happened a lot of times already. Team A may be at game 4 in the chase and Team B at game 1 .. if they play together, you actually tail both of them. You have to treat both chases as individual system plays.

black666 · 05-23-11, 06:13 AM

Average day yesterday .. won about half of the plays and lost about half. Overall it's all good since a good labby management only requires a winning % of +33%

Since there were 3 shutouts yesterday we again got some nice action for today's game.

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

fade Brewers game 4
fade Cardianals game 3
fade Rangers game 2
fade Marlins game 1
fade Phillies game 1
fade Pirates game 1

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

tail Athletics game 6
tail Padres game 4
tail Royals game 3
tail Phillies game 2
tail Rays game 1
tail Rangers game 1
tail Tigers game 1

For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445 in this thread

zeusky · 05-23-11, 09:46 AM

Good job Black666. I was wondering whether we can keep updating the system records as well. I believe the fade system has had no losses so far while the tail system has had two losses (Det and Mil). Correct me if I am wrong but keeping a tab on the losses might help us.

cancan · 05-24-11, 04:27 AM

Good idea, Zeusky, thank you

thelimit0310 · 05-24-11, 11:53 AM

Where are the plays for today? First time jumping in this thread so I'm not sure how sporadic the posting of picks will be, would also like to know how many units up for at least System 1 as well.

Also looks like a new play today if I understand correctly, White Sox were shut out on Monday.

c-fut · 05-24-11, 03:24 PM

Black666 usually updates it but is probably busy today.

Prime1 · 05-24-11, 05:16 PM

Unfortunately we lost a game 6 tailing Oakland in System 2 yesterday. Back at it today!

Just filling in for Black in case he's busy today.

5/24

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

fade Brewers game 5
fade Cardianals game 4
fade Rangers game 3
fade Marlins game 1
fade Phillies game 2
fade Pirates game 1
fade White Sox game 1

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

tail Padres game 5
tail Royals game 3
tail Rays game 2
tail Texas game 1

thelimit0310 · 05-24-11, 08:49 PM

Where did you get the info for new plays? On MLB.com for Monday I saw that only White Sox were shut out, not Pirates and Marlins as well, what site did you check?

EDIT: I see that they were shut out on the 22nd, not yesterday, I guess they were brought up today because that was their next game. Sorry for confusion.

cancan · 05-25-11, 04:31 AM

Originally posted by Prime1

Unfortunately we lost a game 6 tailing Oakland in System 2 yesterday. Back at it today!

Just filling in for Black in case he's busy today.

5/24

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

fade Brewers game 5
fade Cardianals game 4
fade Rangers game 3
fade Marlins game 1
fade Phillies game 2
fade Pirates game 1
fade White Sox game 1

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

tail Padres game 5
tail Royals game 3
tail Rays game 2
tail Texas game 1

No problem, don't worry....
... and good luck

donkson · 05-25-11, 07:12 AM

Originally posted by black666

It has happened a lot of times already. Team A may be at game 4 in the chase and Team B at game 1 .. if they play together, you actually tail both of them. You have to treat both chases as individual system plays.

ok fair enough.

Prime1 · 05-25-11, 10:01 AM

Just filling in for Black in case he's busy today.

5/25

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

fade Brewers game 6
fade Cardinals game 5
fade Marlins game 2
fade White Sox game 2
fade Pirates game 1

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

tail Padres game 6
tail Royals game 4
tail Rays game 3
tail Texas game 2
tail Atlanta game 1

cancan · 05-26-11, 02:58 AM

gl on your plays today

Prime1 · 05-26-11, 10:02 AM

Black, are you still out there? Hope a few are still following.

I'm going to post records and then think about posting labby lines for each system daily, so everyone can see the "edge" the labby provides the system player.

Just filling in for Black in case he's busy today.

Despite losing a game 6 in system#1 yesterday, both systems combined for a 6-3 day.

labby, labby, labby.

hope to have complete records for this season up by tomorrow afternoon.

5/26

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

fade Marlins game 3
fade Minnesota game 1

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

tail Royals game 5
tail Rays game 3
tail Seattle game 1

thelimit0310 · 05-26-11, 10:29 AM

Thanks for taking over Prime, I'm interested in the system but as I posted a few days ago I would like to know the unit count at this point in the season. Also how many labby lines do you recommend? 3?

c-fut · 05-26-11, 10:51 AM

Thanks for the post Prime. I'm still observing this system. Seems profitable, just need good money management. Labby would probably work well

zeusky · 05-26-11, 11:57 AM

Fade System: 1 loss so far with the Brewers yesterday.
Tail System: 3 losses so far: Tigers, Brewers, Athletics.

c-fut · 05-26-11, 12:03 PM

Is that for the whole season zeusky?

Prime1 · 05-26-11, 03:36 PM

SHUTOUT SYSTEM RESULTS = THRU 5/25/11

WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME... MUST BE EXPERIENCED AT LABBY LINE WAGERING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH LABBY LINE WAGERING, THIS SYSTEM COULD BE LETHAL TO YOUR BANKROLL.

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

Game 1: 52-49
Game 2: 25-24
Game 3: 11-13
Game 4: 6-7
Game 5: 3-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (100-1) THRU 5/25/11

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

Game 1: 52-48
Game 2: 27-21
Game 3: 11-10
Game 4: 3-7
Game 5: 0-7
Game 6: 3-4

SYSTEM 2 = (96-4) THRU 5/25/11

It's truly a Great day to Learn How to Properly use the Labby Line!

zeusky · 05-26-11, 05:28 PM

Good work Prime. I can account for 3 tail system losses. Which was the fourth one?

Prime1 · 05-26-11, 10:29 PM

Zeusky,

Baltimore was the first system #2 loss. They Shutout Texas on 4.9.11, then lost their next 6, losing Game 6 on 4.16.11

zeusky · 05-26-11, 10:33 PM

Originally posted by Prime1

Zeusky,

Baltimore was the first system #2 loss. They Shutout Texas on 4.9.11, then lost their next 6, losing Game 6 on 4.16.11

Prime comment!!

Prime1 · 05-27-11, 06:46 AM

SHUTOUT SYSTEM RESULTS = THRU 5/26/11

WARNING: DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME... MUST BE EXPERIENCED AT LABBY LINE WAGERING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU ARE NOT USING LABBY LINE WAGERING, THIS SYSTEM COULD BE LETHAL TO YOUR BANKROLL.

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):
5/27
fade Marlins game 4
fade Minnesota game 1 (off Thursday)
fade San Francisco game 1

Game 1: 52-49
Game 2: 25-24
Game 3: 11-13
Game 4: 6-7
Game 5: 3-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (100-1) THRU 5/26/11

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):
5/27
tail Royals game 6
tail Rays game 3 (off Thursday)
tail Seattle game 1 (off Thursday)
tail Florida game 1

Game 1: 52-48
Game 2: 27-21
Game 3: 11-10
Game 4: 3-7
Game 5: 0-7
Game 6: 3-4

SYSTEM 2 = (96-4) THRU 5/26/11

It's a Great day to Learn How to Properly use the Labby Line!

cancan · 05-27-11, 07:15 AM

Let's have some winners today

goodone · 05-27-11, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by Prime1

Black, are you still out there? Hope a few are still following.

I'm going to post records and then think about posting labby lines for each system daily, so everyone can see the "edge" the labby provides the system player.

Just filling in for Black in case he's busy today.

Despite losing a game 6 in system#1 yesterday, both systems combined for a 6-3 day.

labby, labby, labby.

hope to have complete records for this season up by tomorrow afternoon.

5/26

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):

fade Marlins game 3
fade Minnesota game 1

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):

tail Royals game 5
tail Rays game 3
tail Seattle game 1

True! What I do is actually combine both money management systems, so a chase and then a labby.

thelimit0310 · 05-27-11, 10:33 AM

I'm still trying to figure out how many lines I need to optimize this system. I was considering 3 playing 2 games on each line, but if someone knows a better way please speak up, I'm all ears and would appreciate the help!

Thanks again Prime for keeping the picks coming, I was worried the system runners here got abandoned :O

thelimit0310 · 05-27-11, 01:07 PM

Prime, perhaps you would be willing to tell me how you run your labby? 3 lines? maybe 6? I want to start tailing but of course I want everything to be in check before I do. Thanks to Prime or anyone else willing to help.

knugen · 05-27-11, 01:49 PM

Just have as many line as there are games on the day you start, right now i have 3 lines

Prime1 · 05-27-11, 02:16 PM

Labby Management.

Originally posted by thelimit0310

Prime, perhaps you would be willing to tell me how you run your labby? 3 lines? maybe 6? I want to start tailing but of course I want everything to be in check before I do. Thanks to Prime or anyone else willing to help.

For Each System:

I've been using FOUR labby lines with FOUR numbers each, and then reshuffling DAILY to make sure that every play has an equal value. I will show examples when I get home later. We can also have an open discussion on the most efficient ways to clear the lines. What works for me, and my comfort level, may not work for you, but let's put it out there, and work towards the greater good.

apwmel · 05-28-11, 07:12 AM

KC came through, finally.

Prime1 · 05-28-11, 07:17 AM

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):
5/27
fade Marlins game 4 = (101-1)
fade Minnesota game 1 (off Thursday) = (102-1)
fade San Francisco game 1 =

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):
5/27
tail Royals game 6 = (97-4)
tail Rays game 3 (off Thursday) = (98-4)
tail Seattle game 1 (off Thursday) = (99-4)
tail Florida game 1 =

cancan · 05-28-11, 07:21 AM

I'm appreciating your work. TY

Prime1 · 05-28-11, 07:34 AM

Shutout system 2011

SHUTOUT SYSTEM 2011

WARNING: MUST USE LABBY LINE WAGERING TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU ARE NOT USING LABBY LINE WAGERING, THIS SYSTEM COULD BE LETHAL TO YOUR BANKROLL.

System 1 (Fade a team that has been shutout - 6 game chase):
5/28
fade San Francisco game 2
fade Cleveland game1

Game 1: 53-51
Game 2: 25-25
Game 3: 11-14
Game 4: 7-7
Game 5: 3-4
Game 6: 3-1

SYSTEM 1 = (102-1)

System 2 (Tail a team that shut another out - 6 game chase):
5/28
tail Florida game 2
tail Tampa Bay game 1

Game 1: 53-49
Game 2: 27-21
Game 3: 12-10
Game 4: 3-7
Game 5: 0-8
Game 6: 4-4

SYSTEM 2 = (99-4)

For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445 in this thread