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  • rkelly110
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 10-05-09
    • 39691

    #316
    Pirates were a +160 at my book. They were down 0-6 in the 5th and scored 5 runs their
    next at bat. I had the +RL and was in the money. Was. Exciting 9th inning, thought they
    might pull it off. Oh well, get 'em tomorrow.

    Winning day anyway.

    2-1 for you today, way to go, Bookie Crusher!
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    • bombCanada
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 08-19-09
      • 965

      #317
      5/16:
      Mets +144 6.00u
      Rockies +136 6.00u
      Blue Jays +139 6.00u
      Orioles +169 6.00u
      Twins +149 6.00u

      best luck!
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      • Stealinhome
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 10-23-09
        • 977

        #318
        Crazy day couldn't get down on any thing till now oh well
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        • keel44
          SBR MVP
          • 08-01-09
          • 3363

          #319
          You must realize that your underdogs will have to take a turn for the worst. I think now is the time to incorporate some -1.5 RL favorites. I mean after all +odds are +odds, right?

          I know you are all about crafty money management, but these underdogs are way over achieving here. I mean after all, you wanna keep it simple. How about one week of home RL favorites then a week of road dogs. Does it really matter when you are here just to test your LABBY?
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          • bombCanada
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-19-09
            • 965

            #320
            Originally posted by bombCanada
            5/16:
            Mets +144 6.00u *lose*
            Rockies +136 6.00u *win*
            Blue Jays +139 6.00u *win*
            Orioles +169 6.00u *lose*
            Twins +149 6.00u *lose*
            90-95 +201u
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            • bombCanada
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 08-19-09
              • 965

              #321
              5/17:

              Astros +162 6.00u
              Yankees +136 6.00u
              Blue Jays +135 6.00u
              Angels +147 6.00u
              Twins +165 6.00u

              best luck!
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              • VicVega91
                Restricted User
                • 10-05-09
                • 519

                #322
                best of luck today bc !!!
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                • rkelly110
                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                  • 10-05-09
                  • 39691

                  #323
                  Keel, it ain't broke yet. Why fix it?

                  Take a bunch of ML dogs, throw in a grenade and you will get some. BOOM! Plus 200 units.
                  How many systems do you know, that's pulled in this many units so soon?

                  I read that dogs win 44% of games. Excellent percentage for use in BC's lab lines.
                  Be patient, do what the lab line tells you with no emotion and have fun.

                  GL today.
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                  • M4rk0
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 05-09-11
                    • 20

                    #324
                    Good luck today!!
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                    • keel44
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-01-09
                      • 3363

                      #325
                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                      Keel, it ain't broke yet. Why fix it? Take a bunch of ML dogs, throw in a grenade and you will get some. BOOM! Plus 200 units. How many systems do you know, that's pulled in this many units so soon? I read that dogs win 44% of games. Excellent percentage for use in BC's lab lines. Be patient, do what the lab line tells you with no emotion and have fun. GL today.

                      I see your point, but why walk into losses. Dogs can't kill it all year. They just can't. History has shown they can't. I say switch to RL on favorites very soon. +odds are +odds no matter how you slice it. You have sliced into the dogs well enough. Now slice into the favorites. I will be following along. You can check my spreadsheet if you want to see how I am doing with +odds betting ---- not that great for me, however.

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                      • jsw64
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 02-28-11
                        • 520

                        #326
                        Two 1 run losses,one that was up 5-0-so close again to a big night.
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                        • Roscoe2330
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 12-05-10
                          • 36

                          #327
                          Sorry to ask yet another Labby question but I've only used Labby in Chases, not in a ase like this, playing multiple games and all at +$$$.

                          So say I end a day 3-2 but up 5.5 units. I am playing a line of 10 1's (1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1) would cross off 6 of them but add 0.5 at the end. And if I lose, because I am playing multiple games, would I divide up a days total loss and add it to the end not as one number but separate units as well? Also, once a line is cleared, do I start a new line with 1.5's? Or go with something to the effect of 2.5% of my new bankroll?

                          Love what you're doing BC - my apologies if this is clogging the thread but thought I would throw it out there. I've looked for some JW Cash posts and searched the forum for "Labby" but have not found anything that lends itself to a situation as unique as the one BC has developed.

                          Thanks - Roscoe
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                          • rkelly110
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 10-05-09
                            • 39691

                            #328
                            Originally posted by keel44
                            I see your point, but why walk into losses. Dogs can't kill it all year. They just can't. History has shown they can't. I say switch to RL on favorites very soon. +odds are +odds no matter how you slice it. You have sliced into the dogs well enough. Now slice into the favorites. I will be following along. You can check my spreadsheet if you want to see how I am doing with +odds betting ---- not that great for me, however.

                            http://keel44.mysbrforum.com/spreadsheet/
                            You're not doing bad Keel, for flat betting dogs. The season is still young.

                            Do you have an odds range for the -RL's? If you do, tweak it. If you don't,
                            find a good range.

                            I personally like the ML +160 on the +RL.

                            GL
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                            • bombCanada
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 08-19-09
                              • 965

                              #329
                              Originally posted by keel44
                              You must realize that your underdogs will have to take a turn for the worst. I think now is the time to incorporate some -1.5 RL favorites. I mean after all +odds are +odds, right?

                              I know you are all about crafty money management, but these underdogs are way over achieving here. I mean after all, you wanna keep it simple. How about one week of home RL favorites then a week of road dogs. Does it really matter when you are here just to test your LABBY?
                              Originally posted by keel44
                              I see your point, but why walk into losses. Dogs can't kill it all year. They just can't. History has shown they can't. I say switch to RL on favorites very soon. +odds are +odds no matter how you slice it. You have sliced into the dogs well enough. Now slice into the favorites. I will be following along. You can check my spreadsheet if you want to see how I am doing with +odds betting ---- not that great for me, however.
                              I've spent some time thinking about this, because you make some good points.

                              My motivations are mine, and the system in this thread is mine, and if I don't own it, then I won't stick with it. This is a situation I hadn't quite anticipated, which is that it would come screaming out of the gate, ie it's a roaring success. You've likely read most of the thread, because you know that I've admitted that I don't think the current win rate is sustainable. However, part of my goal is to demonstrate that I've created a system which can survive some ups and downs and remains playable, ie. the bet sizes don't get so large that I (or anyone else) blow(s) out. And I want to run it for the season. I'm not going to change what I'm doing, even if it costs me $$ short term, because I want to validate something I can do again in following years.

                              What I would encourage you to do, keel, is run your -RL picks in this thread, starting tomorrow. Post your plays, post your results, post your totals. We can match results going forward on a regular basis. We can all learn something.

                              This is just as easily something I could do, but I don't want to lose my focus. Are you up to the challenge?
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                              • keel44
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-01-09
                                • 3363

                                #330
                                Originally posted by bombCanada
                                I've spent some time thinking about this, because you make some good points. My motivations are mine, and the system in this thread is mine, and if I don't own it, then I won't stick with it. This is a situation I hadn't quite anticipated, which is that it would come screaming out of the gate, ie it's a roaring success. You've likely read most of the thread, because you know that I've admitted that I don't think the current win rate is sustainable. However, part of my goal is to demonstrate that I've created a system which can survive some ups and downs and remains playable, ie. the bet sizes don't get so large that I (or anyone else) blow(s) out. And I want to run it for the season. I'm not going to change what I'm doing, even if it costs me $$ short term, because I want to validate something I can do again in following years. What I would encourage you to do, keel, is run your -RL picks in this thread, starting tomorrow. Post your plays, post your results, post your totals. We can match results going forward on a regular basis. We can all learn something. This is just as easily something I could do, but I don't want to lose my focus. Are you up to the challenge?
                                No. I am not up to the challenge. I understand what you are trying to do. I was trying to get you to talk more about your philosophy and to add perspective. Your response is satisfactory and I hope it ends well.

                                KEEL
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                                • bombCanada
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 08-19-09
                                  • 965

                                  #331
                                  Originally posted by bombCanada
                                  5/17:

                                  Astros +162 6.00u *lose*
                                  Yankees +136 6.00u *win*
                                  Blue Jays +135 6.00u *ppd*
                                  Angels +147 6.00u *lose*
                                  Twins +165 6.00u *win*
                                  92-97 +207u
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                                  • bombCanada
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 08-19-09
                                    • 965

                                    #332
                                    5/18:
                                    Rockies +135 7.00u
                                    Pirates +148 7.00u
                                    Astros +165 7.00u
                                    Tigers +155 7.00u
                                    Twins +159 7.00u

                                    Best luck!
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                                    • Soon2BRich
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-18-10
                                      • 1318

                                      #333
                                      wow u really made 200 hundred units just by betting underdogs?
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                                      • chizzy
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 07-18-10
                                        • 310

                                        #334
                                        Originally posted by Soon2BRich
                                        wow u really made 200 hundred units just by betting underdogs?
                                        its awesome aye. and it currently has a losing record. as expected mind you, but this is amazing
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                                        • Boxing Champ
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-11-11
                                          • 3358

                                          #335
                                          BC do you still keep track of all your bets on that graph you showed about a month ago? Would love to see it in that representation..Great Job..man. I'v e been going through a rough streak of 1-14 lately...
                                          Looking to follow your great system and finally make some doe...Tired of losing.Thanks guys.
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                                          • bombCanada
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 08-19-09
                                            • 965

                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by bombCanada
                                            5/18:
                                            Rockies +135 7.00u *lose*
                                            Pirates +148 7.00u *win*
                                            Astros +165 7.00u *lose*
                                            Tigers +155 7.00u *lose*
                                            Twins +159 7.00u *win*
                                            94-100 +208u
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                                            • bombCanada
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 08-19-09
                                              • 965

                                              #337
                                              5/19:

                                              Pirates +171 8.00u
                                              Astros +161 8.00u
                                              Cubs +153 8.00u
                                              Twins +161 8.00u

                                              Best luck!
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                                              • VicVega91
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 10-05-09
                                                • 519

                                                #338
                                                best of luck today bc !!
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                                                • firehoyt
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-02-10
                                                  • 3569

                                                  #339
                                                  Originally posted by bombCanada
                                                  94-100 +208u
                                                  How'd you go 2-3 with all 7 unit straight bets and end up winning a unit?! I understand all the bets are >even $ but still the two wins didn't make more than the 3 losses. Am I missing something?!
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                                                  • rkelly110
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 10-05-09
                                                    • 39691

                                                    #340
                                                    The math works out firehoyt, all depends on what your unit value is.
                                                    Mine is $5. $5 x 7 units would be $35 on each game. Pirates win would be $86.80,
                                                    Minn. win would be $90.65. Total bet $175, total won $177.45 +$2.45 1/2 unit.
                                                    If his unit value is $10, he won a unit.

                                                    That's the power of his dogs. Keeps costs down, and if you have a night like last night,
                                                    you still won. As he states under his avatar, "be glad for what you get".

                                                    He started this, betting 2 units, he's up to 8 units now. If you're just starting out, bet
                                                    one unit and work your way up at your comfort level. At level 5, you're betting with
                                                    their money.
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                                                    • Dollar Bin
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 04-22-11
                                                      • 67

                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by firehoyt
                                                      How'd you go 2-3 with all 7 unit straight bets and end up winning a unit?! I understand all the bets are >even $ but still the two wins didn't make more than the 3 losses. Am I missing something?!
                                                      Actually they do.

                                                      At posted odds...
                                                      3 losses = 21units down

                                                      2 wins = 21.49 units up

                                                      0.49 units profit

                                                      All units have been posted in whole numbers.
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                                                      • firehoyt
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-02-10
                                                        • 3569

                                                        #342
                                                        .49 is a half unit and if his unit size is $10 then he won $4.90. Still a half unit. Or are we rounding anything up over $.01?


                                                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                        The math works out firehoyt, all depends on what your unit value is.
                                                        Mine is $5. $5 x 7 units would be $35 on each game. Pirates win would be $86.80,
                                                        Minn. win would be $90.65. Total bet $175, total won $177.45 +$2.45 1/2 unit.
                                                        If his unit value is $10, he won a unit.

                                                        That's the power of his dogs. Keeps costs down, and if you have a night like last night,
                                                        you still won. As he states under his avatar, "be glad for what you get".

                                                        He started this, betting 2 units, he's up to 8 units now. If you're just starting out, bet
                                                        one unit and work your way up at your comfort level. At level 5, you're betting with
                                                        their money.
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                                                        • firehoyt
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-02-10
                                                          • 3569

                                                          #343
                                                          And btw I'm not trying to be contrary or a smartass, just curious as to how things are going in this thread.
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                                                          • keel44
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-01-09
                                                            • 3363

                                                            #344
                                                            Maybe he had .5 of a unit dangling somewhere from previous days and did not post it.

                                                            Like +207.5

                                                            I mean it is close enough.
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                                                            • firehoyt
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-02-10
                                                              • 3569

                                                              #345
                                                              And are you using a labby system?!
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                                                              • firehoyt
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-02-10
                                                                • 3569

                                                                #346
                                                                Originally posted by keel44
                                                                Maybe he had .5 of a unit dangling somewhere from previous days and did not post it.

                                                                Like +207.5

                                                                I mean it is close enough.
                                                                Tell that to my girlfriend the algebra teacher!!! She'd mark a 4.90 rounded to 10 WRONG!!!

                                                                I'll be checking to see how this thread is doing in the future! BOL
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                                                                • Beefcakes
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 04-11-11
                                                                  • 368

                                                                  #347
                                                                  doesnt look like a labby system, hes just betting SU
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                                                                  • figue
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-23-10
                                                                    • 2524

                                                                    #348
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                                                                    • Roscoe2330
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 12-05-10
                                                                      • 36

                                                                      #349
                                                                      It's a modified Labby that works for his specific approach, not a chase or playing one game at a time.

                                                                      BC is doing better than anyone else I've seen on these threads and pretty much been posting in whole numbers. So it is very possible that he won .49 units but that added to a prior fractional amount pushed it over .5 and thus it rounded up.

                                                                      So instead of questioning, just kick back, tail, and enjoy the profits!

                                                                      :-)
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                                                                      • Dabeergod
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-30-10
                                                                        • 5503

                                                                        #350
                                                                        Nice work with the dogs here pal.
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