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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    White Sox get my AL Central 'Jenks'
    Chicago White Sox get my AL Central 'Jenks'

    Ozzie Guillen's squad on Chicago's South Side has it all: A strong rotation, a solid bullpen and depth among the position players. In a tight AL Central, the White Sox are the team to beat.

    The AL Central has needed a 163rd game among a couple of participants to settle up the last two seasons. That won't be the case in 2010.

    Minnesota has gone to the division tiebreakers the last two years, losing to the White Sox in '08 and beating the Tigers last season. It figured the Twins would be part of the race again this season, and they still may be. But breaking news today about reliever Joe Nathan having some possibly serious elbow concerns just pushes me even more strongly in the direction of the White Sox.

    Aside from the one-game playoff in the ALC last year, the Dodgers' three-game bulge in the NL West was the closest division race in 2009. The Angels and Yankees won by 10 and eight games respectively; in the NL, the Phils had a six-game cushion and the Cardinals 7 ½, though St. Louis had a stronger hold on the NL Central than that number might suggest.

    The AL Central is still a very fragile division top to bottom. If it had been Bobby Jenks or Jose Valverde having elbow trouble today, it would have meant the same to the White Sox and Tigers.

    Kansas City and Cleveland are just as tough to rate based on their own kind of fragilities. The Royals stand a solid chance of being plus money 75 percent of the time this year, with about 90 percent of the leftover riding on the arm of one Zach Greinke. Cleveland is a team I really like on offense, and they really weren't that far below AL average last year in plating runs.

    It boils down to me selling myself on the White Sox across the board very early in the offseason. Now as long as Ozzie Guillen doesn't screw things up, I'll have at least two winning tickets to cash this autumn, a ChiSox 'over' and a Blue Jays 'under.'


    NOTE: Win totals and prices shown below were current at The Greek.com as of Tuesday, Mar. 9, 5 p.m. (ET)

    Chicago 82½ (Over -135 / Under +115)
    Avg. wins: 86.6 (High-91, Low-81)
    Pick: The AL Central is not going to rank in the top-3 this season as far as divisions go, and for that reason alone I love the depth this team has. The White Sox can survive an injury here, injury there, and get by on at least the short term. I count on the team being vastly improved on offense and defense, with the sticks scoring an additional 50-75 runs from last season. And yes, I'm banking on Jake Peavy to be a big part of the rotation plus Jenks to nail down 45 or more of the one-two run ball games.

    Bite the chalk and play the 'over.'

    Cleveland 74½ (-115/-105)
    Avg. Wins: 73.8 (High-78, Low-70)
    Pick: The offense should be better than average, maybe 820 runs or more. But expecting the Indians' mound to improve leaps and bounds off a season in which they were leaps and bounds among the worst even with Cliff Lee for two-thirds of the season?

    There isn't a solid reason to play Cleveland above or below the number right now, unless you think the Nathan situation in Minnesota is worth 1-2 games because of divisional play. The Indians face Minnesota just three times in the first two months of the regular season.

    Detroit 81½ (+130/-150)
    Avg. Wins: 81.8 (High-86, low-78)
    Pick: One thing to watch for as news develops on the extent of Nathan's injury in Minnesota is the ripple effect it could have on totals in the division. Detroit takes on the Twins six times in the first 31 full days of regular season action.

    I don't believe this is a particularly good defensive team, and I do not trust the bullpen, with the relief corps the main reason I don't like the Tigers to be a threat to the White Sox and/or Minnesota this year. But I like the 'over' for this team and see them winning 83-85 times at the end.



    Kansas City 71½ (-110/-110)
    Avg. Wins: 71.8 (High-75, Low-68)
    Pick: The Royals will play the Twins six of their first 18 games. It won't matter. With the improvement in Seattle, Kansas City will finish last in the AL in scoring for 2010. There is going to be a lot of pressure on Greinke to repeat his phenomenal performance, and convention wisdom is he won't. But I do see the overall pitching numbers on the rise, just not enough to offset at least 88-89 losses.

    Minnesota 82½ (OFF)
    Avg. Wins: 84.0 (High-91, Low-80)
    Pick: Finally, the team that is driving the division right now. The prices were 'off' when I checked at TheGreek, no doubt adjusting to the Nathan news. The 82 ½-win total had been listed with a minus 160 'over' and plus 140 under. The wins will change, at the least over the next 24 hours, and that will then shift at least some prices on other squads.

    The simulation runs did not have a lot of promise in the rotation to start with. If you bought 'under' already and Minnesota's bullpen is now in flux, congratulations.

    Statistical sources for this article include Baseball-Reference.com, ESPN.com, Retrosheet.org, SBRforum.com and UncleWilliesAgingMind.net.
  • Hebodk
    SBR Sharp
    • 01-06-10
    • 321

    #2
    Agree with the White Sox!
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    • whatsgood5
      Restricted User
      • 10-13-09
      • 15359

      #3
      I truly do enjoy reading all of these Willie. Gets my psyched for April 4th, keep up the good work!
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      • Rainman328
        SBR High Roller
        • 02-01-10
        • 192

        #4
        sox are going to be great this year with that pitching staff
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        • Chi_archie
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-22-08
          • 63167

          #5
          Sox are gonna miss Thome and JD's first half power. love watching Ramirez and Beckham developing though. If Rios can get his head on straight and Beckham blossoms I think the Sox are the best bet out of a bunch of mediocre teams.

          I will be fading Peavy vs the AL power hitting teams, especially in the Cell and small ball parks.
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          • The J Man
            SBR Hustler
            • 02-11-10
            • 50

            #6
            White Sox rotation is totally overrated. Peavy was hurt most of last year and has never proven he can handle an AL Lineup 1-9. Buehrle, Floyd, and Danks are okay. It's a deep rotation, but I don't know about great.
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            • Chi_archie
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-22-08
              • 63167

              #7
              Buehrle may not be "great" in most people's eyes, but he is super consistently very good. His durability is nothing short of amazing, and in this day and age..... being very good and being an almost lock to go over 200 innings every year is VERY VALUABLE. I defy you to come up with a list of more than 5 guys in the AL that can match his ERA over the past 3 years, while pitching 625 innings

              if you have good defense, and above avg hitting. AND 1-4 starters that will give you 7 innings of 3.75-4.0 era is gonna add up to alot of wins over the long haul.


              I think the conglomerate is likely to make up the 5th starter position might be what the central pennant chances comes down to for the sox.... I'm not sure silva is gonna do it
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              • Bob Loblaw
                SBR MVP
                • 01-07-10
                • 3508

                #8
                Originally posted by The J Man
                White Sox rotation is totally overrated. Peavy was hurt most of last year and has never proven he can handle an AL Lineup 1-9. Buehrle, Floyd, and Danks are okay. It's a deep rotation, but I don't know about great.
                6-4 with a 2.49 era in 11 starts in American League ballparks. Until he shows he can't pitch outside of Petco, people need to stop assuming he can't with nothing to back it up.
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                • fastpitch_45
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 02-27-10
                  • 49

                  #9
                  keep up the good work
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                  • Outlawdino
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 06-28-08
                    • 467

                    #10
                    Not so fast my friend, a great pitching staff doesn't mean a great defense and to add, run support. The Whitesox got rid of some players that were worth paying, for example Joe Crede. The Sox do not have the defense behind those pithchers. Plus, they have there fair share of veterans....Toss up between the Twins, Tigers and Sox.
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                    • Chi_archie
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-22-08
                      • 63167

                      #11
                      Crede has been gone for 2 years now..... Teahan is an upgrade from fields/beckham out of position..... CF is an upgrade, rf is an upgrade, lf is an upgrade from Pods..... who may have been the worst fielding "fast" outfield i've ever seen.....


                      so where is the downgrade? aj and pauly will be down a tick or two. otherwise they are getting better at every position in terms of defense this year
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                      • Metalhead
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 07-14-09
                        • 719

                        #12
                        I'm gonna throw in my 2 cents Willie. I like your Chicago over pick, don't like your Toronto under pick and I think Minnesota will win the division even though Nathan is out.
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                        • chisox19
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-11-10
                          • 216

                          #13
                          Tough to not like the White Sox, especially now. They have upgraded their outfield defense dropping Podesednik who was an adventure in left and Dye who was difficult to watch towards the end of his White Sox days. Beckham a natural SS should be steady at second base and don't forget they added Vizquel who is one of the best defensive infielders of all time.

                          Offensively, they've if anything improved. Dye's average nose dived last season and the years finally caught up to Thome. For big sluggers like him the end comes quick. Teahen is solid and should hit in the 280 neighborhood while Pierre will be a terrific addition for the style of ball Ozzie wants to play. Beckham moving to second instantly makes him one of the best second baseman offensively in the AL. As long as the end doesn't come this year for Paulie or AJ this unit will back up their pitchers.

                          Peavy looked good at the end of last season with a 1.35 era over 20 innings coming off an ankle injury. The only real concern with Buehrle is that his consistency will begin to tail off, but until it happens you figure you can count on him for 200+ innings and 14 wins. Danks and Floyd are as good of a 3-4 as you'll outside of maybe the Red Sox. The fifth starter is a question mark right now.

                          All in all going into the year the White Sox have to be the favorites to pull out the division. As long as the bullpen holds up and the veterans can have another productive year this race won't be all that competitive. They have gotten younger by shedding Thome, Konerko and Podsednik and have proven players all over the diamond.
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                          • Mr Windy City
                            Restricted User
                            • 12-27-09
                            • 5018

                            #14
                            White sox? lol.....Under 82.5 all day
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                            • Willie Bee
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-14-06
                              • 15726

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mr Windy City
                              White sox? lol.....Under 82.5 all day
                              Let me guess, Northsider?
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                              • Chi_archie
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 63167

                                #16
                                Sox get 3 games against the Pirates (again) and 3 games vs the nats this year for interleague play.... I think that helps the over a little bit
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