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  • Willie Bee
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    Toronto Blue Jays best bet in AL East
    Toronto Blue Jays best bet in AL East

    No, I haven't lost what little mind remains between my ears. The Toronto Blue Jays really are the best futures wager you can make this season in the rough-&-tumble AL East.

    The results are finally in from my simulation runs for the 2010 MLB season, and I'm convinced that the numbers have been crunched enough. Time to spit out some serious projections, and no better way to do that than to start in the AL East.

    Top to bottom, this isn't the best division in baseball. But 1-2, and maybe even 1-2-3, it's awfully tough to beat. I'm here to tell you that the best bet anyone can make for this division is on the Toronto Blue Jays.

    To lose at least 91 games, that is.

    Now remember, I'm a by-the-seat-of-my-pants recreational bettor. Baseball futures just happen to be my most favorite wager to make. I do rely on my simulations as at least a big part of my process to reach a final decision, but keep in mind that I'm not using stats from thousands of simulation runs. I ran five seasons recently, and there are certainly going to be roster changes during Spring Training and throughout the regular season.

    The simulation's weakest point is that in order to make full-season runs in the time I have, there is very crude and limited in-game management. Each team gets three 'normal' sims, and one each worst-case and best-case scenario. There's a lot of human input on those two scenarios as well as the player projections. So maybe that's the true weak link of the program, as it is with any computer program.

    In baseball lingo, it gives me another ballpark figure to consider before I make a wager or prediction. So that's my disclaimer.

    These simulations are also what I use to make my Fantasy projections for players, if you've been following along with that. Without further ado, Part 1 of 6. Futures prices shown courtesy of TheGreek.com as of March 2.

    Baltimore 73½ (Over -130 / Under +110)
    Avg. wins: 72.8 (High-77, Low-70
    Pick: I really like this team to finish in the mid-70s at the least, but the numbers didn't bear it out enough for me to play the 'over.' It was a mild surprise to see 77 as the top-out in the five runs. The offense averaged 750 runs in the sims, up very slightly from the 741 the O's plated last year that was 11th in the AL. And the staff allowed 822 on average, a decent decrease from the 876 that Baltimore pitchers allowed in '09.

    There's a lot being made about Kevin Millwood joining the rotation and youngsters like Brad Bergeson and David Hernandez "taking the next step." But for my money, the key here will be Mike Gonzalez and the bullpen.

    Boston 94½ (+100/-120)
    Avg. Wins: 92.6 (High-98, Low-88)
    Pick: Now one of the first things you probably notice is the Red Sox are as far below TheGreek's number as the Blue Jays as far as average wins. So why not pick Boston as a safe 'under' bet? The reason is simple: The team's too damn good and has too damn good a chance to post in the mid-90s under the 'W' column.

    Like any team, a couple of key injuries to the top 4-5 arms could indeed be deadly, even for a team as talented as Boston. I'll at least follow my simulations and make this pick an 'under,' but no bet here for me.



    New York 94½ (-140/+120)
    Avg. Wins: 93.6 (High-101, low-89)
    Pick: This is a pretty damn low number for the Yankees based on recent win totals. I've played New York 'under' the past four seasons and won three times, last year being a loser. So it's strange to see the Yanks listed at even a lower total than the team that won in '09.

    The notion that the team will suffer a letdown after finally breaking that nine-year 'drought' this past season. Might be interesting to watch this number rise in the near-future.

    Tampa Bay 89½ (-110/-110)
    Avg. Wins: 87.8 (High-92, Low-81)
    Pick: Human nature is simply too hard to overcome as it's a natural and even subconscious disposition to take that New Yorks and Boston are automatics for 1-2 in the division. That's despite this very Rays team teaching us it's a very possible outcome.

    My pick is the 'under,' and I hope David Price, Wade Davis and the Tampa bullpen prove me wrong.

    Toronto 71½ (-120/+100)
    Avg. Wins: 69.6 (High-73, Low-64)
    Pick: My apologies to Cito Gaston and Blue Jays fans for speaking so ill towards their team's prospects this season. One can only suspect they also don't like the odds that are stacked against them.


    Healthy, I do like Toronto's thumpers. The Blue Jays averaged 818 runs per season in the simulations, an extra 20 runs from what they scored in 2009 when they were sixth in the AL. But Toronto also gave up 840 on average, well up from a staff that was 11th last year even with Roy Halladay. The 'under' 71.5 is what I'm playing.

    Statistical sources for this article include Baseball-Reference.com, ESPN.com, Retrosheet.org, SBRforum.com and UncleWilliesAgingMind.net.
  • OMGRandyJackson
    SBR MVP
    • 02-07-10
    • 1680

    #2
    What were the runs scored and runs allowed for NYY and Boston? If you care the share that is!
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    • Regul8er
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-06-07
      • 10666

      #3
      Blue Jays are definately in the middle of a downswing. No big name signings, they are really relying on their young arms to carry them, if they can stay healthy.
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      • lakerboy
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-02-09
        • 94379

        #4
        Blue Jays are a joke. Living in Toronto and attending all the yankee games here is the only time anyone is in the stadium bar a few red sox games. Place is a ghost town. Agree with Willie 100%
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        • 3PtShooter
          SBR MVP
          • 04-13-08
          • 3936

          #5
          Toronto has been a tuff team to figure the last couple years,,,
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          • whatsgood5
            Restricted User
            • 10-13-09
            • 15359

            #6
            Very nice write-ups Willie. Can't wAit till we get to the NL East!
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            • stealthyburrito
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 05-12-09
              • 21562

              #7
              the Blue jays always seem to surprise with good, young pitching talent. Without Halladay around, who's gonna be there to mentor them?
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              • bighank33
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-03-09
                • 190

                #8
                blue jays will be 3rd like normal.
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                • This_Is_Life
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 02-23-10
                  • 153

                  #9
                  no, the rays will be 3rd

                  the jays will be fighting to stay out of the basement

                  i live in toronto and follow this team closely....they are absolutely horrendous this year

                  in 3 years they will be a high 80s-low 90's winning team

                  the potential is there for the jays but not for this year, halladay is irreplaceable

                  in 3 years:
                  staff: drabek/romero/marcum/rzepcynski/morrow....jays have stockpiled young good arms that can start

                  travis snider will become a perennial all-star

                  for this year watch out for randy ruiz...kid will jack 30 HRs
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                  • Vesuvius
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-19-08
                    • 3886

                    #10
                    Yanks
                    Sox
                    Rays
                    O's
                    Jays
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                    • spankmythighs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-26-10
                      • 2884

                      #11
                      The bluejays are a first quarter team or maybe a first third team. After about May or early June, its all downhill.
                      sbr
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                      • stealthyburrito
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-12-09
                        • 21562

                        #12
                        Originally posted by spankmythighs
                        The bluejays are a first quarter team or maybe a first third team. After about May or early June, its all downhill.
                        the reason they got off to such a hot start last year was cuz of the weak schedule. almost no divisional opponents until mem. day. This year's a little different. toronto will be at the basement or at 4th at best in the al east
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                        • Rich Boy
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-01-09
                          • 9714

                          #13
                          Ricky Romero is their best pitcher
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                          • blueghost
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-11-09
                            • 1715

                            #14
                            see a 4th or worse season for them unless young arms surprise they got some O so i guess wewill see
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                            • OMGRandyJackson
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-07-10
                              • 1680

                              #15
                              Richmond already on the DL for 60 days. lolllllll
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                              • Beastxxx
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 06-26-09
                                • 446

                                #16
                                Jays are gonna have an uphill battle

                                Lets see what happens.
                                Thanks wille bee and I am back with you boys.
                                Last year was my first on betting an I evened out at 50%.
                                Jays are gonna loose quite a bit but I am hoping they win a few.
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                                • Jaug
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-11-09
                                  • 3087

                                  #17
                                  On O69 for Toronto. Might dump it.
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                                  • Richkas
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-03-08
                                    • 19396

                                    #18
                                    gl
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                                    • SamsNCharge99
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-22-08
                                      • 41242

                                      #19
                                      throwing money away there
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                                      • Beastxxx
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 06-26-09
                                        • 446

                                        #20
                                        How is it throwing money away if they as supposed to lose a minimum of 75-80 games?
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                                        • Marigold HD
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-03-07
                                          • 5053

                                          #21
                                          Looks like I am going to be the only one talking over this year............... Easy...........TB of 2007.......you'll see
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                                          • OMGRandyJackson
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-07-10
                                            • 1680

                                            #22
                                            That would be cool.
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                                            • nosniboR11
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-02-08
                                              • 10042

                                              #23
                                              willie dont do anything this stupid again, you lose all credibility with a dumb loser like this , wow, just wow
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                                              • zigomanisinsider
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 07-28-09
                                                • 4007

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                                Ricky Romero is their best pitcher
                                                what so funny did romero not pitch 8 inning no hitter on philly tell me how many pitchers can do that romero shut out alot of teams last year
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                                                • bigboyfosho
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-19-09
                                                  • 1576

                                                  #25
                                                  lets book it,
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                                                  • ryanjep
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 12-09-08
                                                    • 2556

                                                    #26
                                                    just throw your money into a savings account instead, or burn it your choice
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