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  • Bread
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 03-16-08
    • 23726

    #1
    Baseball Run Lines
    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


    Sometimes this game can appear to be all too easy, can it not? Of course I’m talking about baseball run lines. You might spot a perennial powerhouse with their ace going up against the Bad News Bears and their starting pitcher, Adam Lambert. Well you’re no dummy! Instead of eating the huge chalk, you ascertain that there is no way that the favored squad will not win by two or more runs, and play the run line to increase your winnings. Ah, if only it were always this simple.

    Point in case – On Tuesday night the Yankees hosted the God-awful Washington Nationals. Now I could’ve played the money line at -365, but why settle for that? That’s some serious chalk. Usually a run line will knock anywhere from 50-100 off of the favorite’s price. But as luck would have it, I was able to grab New York RL all they way down at -175 at Bet Jamaica. Looks like an easy way to double my winnings to me!

    But we all know that the books aren’t in the business of giving away easy money. I’ll check back on my game later on.


    Run line bettor’s nightmare






    The allure of magically turning a -120 favorite into a +170 payday can be strong. Even more so if you win a few in a row. But it is important to pick your moments. No matter how big the discrepancy of talent on the field, it’s still taxing enough just trying to pick a winner, let alone a blowout.

    You can see below for the 13 MLB teams with winning records, the percentage of one run victories they have been involved in. Of course they probably were not favored for every one of those, but it can still give you a decent idea of just how many times the RL can beat you, even if the team wins the actual game.

    • Dodgers 35%
    • Mets 33%
    • Angels 32%
    • Rangers 31%
    • Brewers 28%
    • Tigers 27%
    • Yankees 27%
    • Blue Jays 26%
    • Red Sox 26%
    • Cardinals 23%
    • Rays 23%
    • Phillies 22%
    • Reds 22%
    • Giants 18%

    I’m not sure what is more shocking – how high some of those numbers are, or the fact that the Giants have a winning record! But as you can see, even your powerhouse teams only win by more than one run about two out of every three times.

    Another stat that will make you think twice before pulling that run line trigger is total team scoring. If you compare the most prolific teams to the most anemic, there is a difference of only two runs per game being put on the scoreboard (NYY 5.70, Sea 3.73). That means that everyone in between is averaging pretty darn close within each other. It all makes me wonder if it would just be wiser to play the other side of the run line.

    Of course you can always play the RL the opposite way by playing the underdog who is now getting a run and a half to work with. This can be smart at times, but will turn your +125 play into a -140 team real quick. Most players are greedy (like me) and enjoy taking shots every so often at the big hit. But through my experiences, playing the team getting the runs might not be as sexy a date, but will generally put out more often.

    So why did I take the hated Yankees RL? Well, it’s the highest scoring team with CC Sabathia on the mound against the woeful Nats, playing at home where pop flies turn into first row homeruns. So basically, I completely ignored every statistic and warning that I just gave you. So how did I do?

    At one point Washington was actually winning the game 3-2. It wasn’t Jeter or A-Rod or Teixeira who won the game for me. Nope, it was Ramiro Pena getting just his fifth RBI of the year in the bottom of the 8th to get me the RL win 5-3. Like I said, these bets are easy money. Now, who’s next?


    Thanks Ramiro Pena!

  • MonkeyF0cker
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 06-12-07
    • 12144

    #2
    Good article, Bread. Very rarely is sharp money placed on the -1.5. It is placed on the +1.5 far more often.
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    • Bread
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-16-08
      • 23726

      #3
      Thanks MF. Yea me pro.

      How did I KNOW that Yankees would win by 2 last night?
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      • Mudcat
        Restricted User
        • 07-21-05
        • 9287

        #4
        I swear I can't find a good angle on any side of MLB runlines. I did a major data collection, identified the richest ponds to fish from, ran live tests based on different parameters from statistical models to line movement to Pinnacle Lean and combinations thereof.

        Didn't come up with a thing.

        It is a bit of a Moby Dick for me right now to find something on those damn MLB runlines. I do not take kindly to being defeated by the numbers. I feel like something must be there if I just find a creative way to look at it - something big.

        How could something so confusing where the lines are driven by so many clueless bettors not have weaknesses? But as of right now, I got nothing.

        It is driving me mad - mad I tell you.
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        • Bread
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 03-16-08
          • 23726

          #5
          Follow me Muddy. I knew the Yankees would win by 2 last night. Me pro.





          Actually, I was kinda hoping they didn't get that run in the 8th last night. I will always trade a losing bet for a good closing joke at the end of an article.
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          • pavyracer
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-12-07
            • 82813

            #6
            Don't forget the alternate RL's. I have nailed numerous +200 or better Alt RL's in my career. Always take the home dog on Alt RL's. This is the sharpest play in baseball.
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            • Willie Bee
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-14-06
              • 15726

              #7
              Speaking of run lines, Rangers -1½ (+130) today vs. Astros.
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              • james4512
                SBR MVP
                • 10-27-08
                • 3707

                #8
                I swore i would never bet the runlines again. Last year i bet 4 games in a day which is a lot for me and i bet all of them on the runline. All 4 teams won by only 1 run so i went 0-4. I've only bet the runline a few times this year and its worked out fairly well, but now im using a local again who doesnt even offer the runline so now i cant even face my temptation.
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                • Panekkkk
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-12-09
                  • 2430

                  #9
                  On a team-by-team basis it might not hit that much, but, road favorites of -120 or more hit the run line 80.1% of the time when conditioned on winning the game (i.e., if they win the game, they will win by 2 or more runs 80% of the time). Reason: road teams get an extra at-bat.

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                  • stevebreaston
                    Restricted User
                    • 11-13-08
                    • 83

                    #10
                    I hit the Brewers -1.5 last night, but every time you give that run and a half it's a sweat fest...nothing worse then when they were up 4-3 in the 8th, but I pulled it out and then picked up all the empty beer cans surrounding me
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                    • thebestthereis
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-01-09
                      • 11459

                      #11
                      My thoughts are like any other "spread" be it basketball, football, or hockey....they have a time and place. You don't make money laying juice in any sport. Winners make their money with underdogs. I rarely bet any game if I have to lay price...I just look for another game. You NEVER lay double digits in the NFL or the NBA and this is similar due to the nature of the game. If I lay 1.5 I better be getting underdog money, and a lot of it too. There are too many games and too many options to get underdogs in baseball, big ones a lot of times, to have to lay 1.5. Just my two cents.
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