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  • GoodBadUgly
    SBR Rookie
    • 03-25-12
    • 19

    #561
    Good morning jlani93, barryt, and/or anyone who follows this thread and has experience in SDQL. I've been learning as much as possible about SDQL, and I've tried to replicate TechnicalTrader's query, but I don't get the same numbers as his.

    These are TechnicalTrader's numbers:
    (Straight up, RL also was up, just slightly lower but also in the green)
    2013: 257-146, avg odds -162 +25.6 units
    2014: 244-130, avg odds -154 +53.6 units
    2015: 261-124, avg odds -159 +77.7 units
    2016: 249-133, avg odds -166 +36.6 units

    This is the query I put in at KillerSports:
    F and line > p:line > pp:line and o:line < po:line < ppo:line and season=2013

    I must be missing something. Any help is much appreciated.
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    • barryt
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-23-13
      • 237

      #562
      Friday RIOF two plays Nationals -165, Dodgers-245( probably won't play this).
      As suspected twins 2 nd game became a play. I dint bet as I was tied up
      May is now 26-10
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      • barryt
        SBR High Roller
        • 01-23-13
        • 237

        #563
        Originally posted by GoodBadUgly
        Good morning jlani93, barryt, and/or anyone who follows this thread and has experience in SDQL. I've been learning as much as possible about SDQL, and I've tried to replicate TechnicalTrader's query, but I don't get the same numbers as his.

        These are TechnicalTrader's numbers:
        (Straight up, RL also was up, just slightly lower but also in the green)
        2013: 257-146, avg odds -162 +25.6 units
        2014: 244-130, avg odds -154 +53.6 units
        2015: 261-124, avg odds -159 +77.7 units
        2016: 249-133, avg odds -166 +36.6 units

        This is the query I put in at KillerSports:
        F and line > p:line > pp:line and o:line < po:line < ppo:line and season=2013

        I must be missing something. Any help is much appreciated.
        I just do this year as Ididnt need to validate TTs #
        im a rookie at this but two things
        i use op instead of po... not sure it matters
        and season = should be season>=.. this could be the reason as I'm not sure how one gets results for other season with just asking for 2013
        I would also go season / line/ and F /and o:line in that order but that's maybe just me.
        gl
        barryt
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        • GoodBadUgly
          SBR Rookie
          • 03-25-12
          • 19

          #564
          Thank you for your response, barry.

          jlani93, would you kindly respond to my question when you have a chance. I can't message you because I don't have the required minimum forty posts. Thanks so much.
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          • barryt
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-23-13
            • 237

            #565
            1-,1 yesterday
            57-29 (1.67, 66.3%) for April
            today's plays
            Nationals-180, Tigers-157
            maybe Royals if get to -113 or so
            gl
            barryt
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            • barryt
              SBR High Roller
              • 01-23-13
              • 237

              #566
              Not so much interest in this thread anymore
              yesterday
              1 play Tampa Lost
              1 play today INdians over reds as long as they stay favourite. -110 this am, need -106
              gl
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              • kilopro
                SBR Hustler
                • 07-20-16
                • 63

                #567
                I'm continuing to track and likely pick up again in June. Primarly like RIOF4 plays but they've done extremely well on ML. Looking for some regression there before getting back in. Thanks barryt for helping to keep this going.
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                • barryt
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 01-23-13
                  • 237

                  #568
                  Lost again yesterday but still 64.4% ,RL 46.8% for 2017 and 66.7%, RL 52% for May.
                  3 plays today
                  Astros -200 ..too favourite for me now -230
                  Rockies -115 now -125
                  Indians -145 now -160
                  Gl
                  PS bet early lines always seem to go against RIOF( favourites?)
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                  • barryt
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 01-23-13
                    • 237

                    #569
                    Hi Kilopro
                    Now you mention it
                    RIOF4 ml 71% : RL 50% for 2017 and for May ml 66.7% :RL 48.1 %
                    So the straight RIOF has done slightly better this month than the 4 version and with more plays more money made. $1324 vs $659
                    Rockies and Indians are RIOF4 today
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                    • kilopro
                      SBR Hustler
                      • 07-20-16
                      • 63

                      #570
                      Yes barryt, RIOF has performed really well this month, bucking the overall trend since 2013. Thanks again and GL.
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                      • barryt
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 01-23-13
                        • 237

                        #571
                        3-0 yesterday 2-1 On RL. Iq went 2-0 and 1-0 as low odds on Astros and Indians RL
                        4 games today
                        May 24, 2017 box Wed home Braves Julio Teheran - R Pirates Trevor Williams - R -140 9.0
                        May 24, 2017 box Wed home Indians Trevor Bauer - R Reds Lisalverto Bonilla - R -175 9.0
                        May 24, 2017 box Wed home Mets Robert Gsellman - R Padres Jarred Cosart - R -150 8.5
                        May 24, 2017 box Wed home Red Sox Chris Sale - L Rangers Martin Perez - L -255 8.5
                        Odds on Boston toolow to play,( for me)

                        ps all are RIOF4
                        Last edited by SBR Ivy; 05-26-17, 04:26 PM.
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                        • barryt
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-23-13
                          • 237

                          #572
                          Bad day at the office 1-3 on last and RL. 0-2 for me as didn't play big favs Indians and REDSOX
                          ytd

                          62-35 (1.54, 63.9%) avg line: -164.7 / 151.8 on / against: +$1,033 / -$1,411 ROI: +6.5% / -14.5%
                          46-51 (0.04, 47.4%) avg line: 126.1 / -142.
                          2plays today both RIOf4
                          indians -205
                          Mets -210
                          both too steep for me
                          gl barryt
                          Last edited by barryt; 05-25-17, 06:31 AM. Reason: Added today's plays
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                          • barryt
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 01-23-13
                            • 237

                            #573
                            No plays today afterall
                            indians ppd
                            Mets changed starter and line dropped to -140
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                            • barryt
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 01-23-13
                              • 237

                              #574
                              2 plays Friday
                              Brewers -110 a play as long as Fav
                              Indians -200 ... would have to drop to -190 for me to play( and then it wouldn't be a play ...of course!)
                              gl
                              barryt
                              PS no RIOF4
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                              • barryt
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 01-23-13
                                • 237

                                #575
                                Going thru a rough stretch last week May 17 -25

                                SU:

                                8-8 (0.81, 50.0%)
                                avg line: -174.7 / 159.9
                                on / against: -$510 / +$408
                                ROI: -18.0% / +25.5%




                                RL:
                                7-9 (-0.69, 43.8%)
                                avg line: 111.6 / -131.6
                                on / against: -$115 / +$15
                                ROI: -6.7% / +0.7%
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                                • Mackballs
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 12-01-16
                                  • 5810

                                  #576
                                  Excellent news. I'll sign the petition. Get the man back here.
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                                  • barryt
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 01-23-13
                                    • 237

                                    #577
                                    Originally posted by barryt
                                    2 plays Friday
                                    Brewers -110 a play as long as Fav
                                    Indians -200 ... would have to drop to -190 for me to play( and then it wouldn't be a play ...of course!)
                                    gl
                                    barryt
                                    PS no RIOF4
                                    Indians dropped off,but
                                    Giants came on -110... so as long as they remain the Fav!
                                    gl
                                    ( what does nominated mean..a thumbs up?)
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                                    • barryt
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 01-23-13
                                      • 237

                                      #578
                                      0-1 yesterday as breweries lost and Giants were ineligible as they were not favourite at game time
                                      1 play today DET maybe@-140
                                      i say maybe as because of the PPD games the past 2 days in CHIX, the starting pitchers are confused. Some say Farmer some say Fulmer,(that in itself is confusing) while Holland danish is also reversed at places.
                                      Will confirm the play around 2 pm
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                                      • barryt
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 01-23-13
                                        • 237

                                        #579
                                        Well Detroit ended up no play but there were two others Saturday and 3 on Sunday but I was unable to post them. Of course all 5 won bothe ml and RL. I was able to bet 2 of them Sunday,
                                        May 27, 2017 box Sat home Astros Dallas Keuchel - L Orioles Wade Miley - L 5-2 3 W -1.0 U 11-7 0-1 3-0 -190 8.0 9
                                        May 27, 2017 box Sat home Nationals Stephen Strasburg - R Padres Clayton Richard - L 3-0 3 W -5.0 U 10-3 2-1 3-0 -265 8.0 9
                                        May 28, 2017 box Sun home Astros Lance McCullers - R Orioles Alec Asher - R 8-4 4 W 3.5 O 11-7 2-1 5-3 -220 8.5 9
                                        May 28, 2017 box Sun home Giants Johnny Cueto - R Braves RA Dickey - R 7-1 6 W 0.0 P 6-7 0-2 7-0 -200 8.0 9
                                        May 28, 2017 box Sun home Rockies German Marquez - R Cardinals Lance Lynn - R 8-4 4 W 1.0 O 10-10 0-0 5-0 -127 11.0 9
                                        Last edited by SBR Ivy; 06-07-17, 09:28 AM.
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                                        • barryt
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 01-23-13
                                          • 237

                                          #580
                                          2 plays today

                                          Marlins-130
                                          Royals -107. Royals must be the favourite.

                                          in this thread emphasis has been posting results by Month. Didn't make much sense to me, so I've started using a moving 30 day window to view the past results and use those win% for determining my bet size.
                                          so for the past 30 days April 29 to May 28
                                          37-21 (2.05, 63.8%) avg line: -168.1 / 154.2 on / against: +$694 / -$921 ROI: +7.0% / -15.9%
                                          30-28 (0.55, 51.7%) avg line: 120.2 / -139.5 on / against: +$599 / -$1,028 ROI: +9.9% / -12.6%
                                          28-28-2 (0.91, 50.0%) avg total: 8.6 over / under: -$327 / -$228 ROI: -5.0% / -3.6%
                                          Guess we didn't need the OU stats too
                                          gl
                                          barryt
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                                          • barryt
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 01-23-13
                                            • 237

                                            #581
                                            Yesterday, I decided for myself at about 6 pm, that KC wouldn't be Fav so I didn't play it even though it was still showing as a play. So I just played Marlins ml and RL which won.
                                            Turns out KC was an RIOF play despite all SBR books and Vegas showing pickem or Tigers a small Fav, but it lost 10-7.
                                            1 RIOF4 today Dbacks -110 vs Pitt as long as Dbacks are Fav. Same problem as with KC yesterday, it may be touch and go as to whether they are Fav.
                                            last 30 days

                                            38-20 (2.10, 65.5%) avg line: -169.5 / 155.6 on / against: +$902 / -$1,121 ROI: +9.1% / -19.3%
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                                            • barryt
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 01-23-13
                                              • 237

                                              #582
                                              Yesterday ARZ lost favouritism so it wasn't a play. I checked at 5:30 and it was + money at most books while RIOF still showed it a play, however this am it wasn't a play. TOO BAD as it won3-0
                                              Today similar situation with Pitt opening line -114 says it's a play, but already a dog so it's not. May come back check lines at noon game time is 12.35
                                              Mariners
                                              TBay Rays
                                              are RIOF4
                                              ( I haven't been ditinguishingbetween RIOF and 4 just playing as RIOF
                                              last 30 days ml 64% RL52%
                                              gl
                                              barryt
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                                              • barryt
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 01-23-13
                                                • 237

                                                #583
                                                4-0 yesterday. As suspected Pitt was a no play
                                                NO plays today
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                                                • BennyFang
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-27-09
                                                  • 1412

                                                  #584
                                                  Anything today?.....haven't had a chance to look yet.
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                                                  • barryt
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 01-23-13
                                                    • 237

                                                    #585
                                                    No plays again. I'll check back around 6:30 and if there are any I'll post them
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                                                    • barryt
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-23-13
                                                      • 237

                                                      #586
                                                      One potential play today Marlins . Opened at -115 and must be -114 to qualify.
                                                      officially no plays yesterday
                                                      gl barryt
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                                                      • barryt
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 01-23-13
                                                        • 237

                                                        #587
                                                        Went to check for Sunday plays and noticed Oakland had sneaked in as a play on Satyrday along with Marlins. I bet Miami but didn't see Oakland til it was much too late. Went 4-0 dam
                                                        Onto Sunday
                                                        2 showing right now Twins-117 and Mariners-122
                                                        im going to have to find the discipline to check back 15 min before game times to see if others are popping up!
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                                                        • BennyFang
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-27-09
                                                          • 1412

                                                          #588
                                                          Looks like both are plays
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                                                          • Baby o
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 10-27-11
                                                            • 70

                                                            #589
                                                            So the play today would be what?

                                                            Twins and Mariners
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                                                            • barryt
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 01-23-13
                                                              • 237

                                                              #590
                                                              3-1 yesterday; these win% are getting obscene
                                                              Last 30 days

                                                              36-17 (2.21, 67.9%) avg line: -165.2 / 151.8 on / against: +$1,088 / -$1,279 ROI: +12.4% / -24.1%
                                                              30-23 (0.76, 56.6%) avg line: 121.1 / -140.3 on / against: +$1,284 / -$1,733 ROI: +23.1% / -23.0%
                                                              26-25-2 (0.65, 51.0%) avg total: 8.7
                                                              For more action;all those not quite qualifying but within 10cents though are doing well too!

                                                              46-24 (1.74, 65.7%) avg line: -159.1 / 146.4 on / against: +$1,185 / -$1,443 ROI: +10.6% / -20.6%
                                                              Doesnt paste too well ,but you get the idea

                                                              No plays indicated at 8 am. Check back at suppertime
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                                                              • BennyFang
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-27-09
                                                                • 1412

                                                                #591
                                                                Looks like only the Braves are a possibility today.
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                                                                • barryt
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 01-23-13
                                                                  • 237

                                                                  #592
                                                                  At opening line of -127 , Braves were a play, but they have been bet up to about pickem. They must drop back to -117 to be a play. Game time is 735p so check back around 7p. If it's a play I'll confirm.
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                                                                  • barryt
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 01-23-13
                                                                    • 237

                                                                    #593
                                                                    Braves not a play
                                                                    C ardinals would be a play at -136, presently around -130 game in 5 min
                                                                    ill pass
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                                                                    • BennyFang
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-27-09
                                                                      • 1412

                                                                      #594
                                                                      Orioles, Brewers, D'backs bear watching on 6/7.
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                                                                      • barryt
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 01-23-13
                                                                        • 237

                                                                        #595
                                                                        3 plays today
                                                                        Brewers
                                                                        Diamondbacks
                                                                        Orioles
                                                                        Just for the record..no plays yesterday!
                                                                        Last 30 days ml 66%, RL 56%
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