Hamels, Phillies set sights on Manny-less Dodgers

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  • Willie Bee
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    • 02-14-06
    • 15726

    #1
    Hamels, Phillies set sights on Manny-less Dodgers
    Hamels, Phillies set sights on Manny-less Dodgers

    Pitching has been a huge problem for Charlie Manuel in Philadelphia this season, and today he turns to his young ace Cole Hamels to stem the bleeding and win the series from the Dodgers.

    Six down and 44 games to go for the Los Angeles Dodgers as they begin their second week of action without slugger Manny Ramirez.



    The Dodgers (23-12, +8.55 units) picked up just their second win in six games since Ramirez was suspended last Thursday (May 7), with James Loney fueling the offense with three hits and four RBI in a 9-2 rout over Philadelphia last night. While a lot of attention is on the LA offense without Manny, the bats have been pretty potent so far in his absence plating 35 runs in the six games. In three of those games, the group has scored at least eight runs.

    Philadelphia (16-15, -3.00) comes into today's matinee performance in rough shape after last night's loss left them with just two wins in their last seven tries. Jamie Moyer, looking for his 250th career win, was tagged for seven of the nine Dodgers runs in Wednesday's loss. Phillies pitchers now boast a 5.42 ERA, second-worst in the NL, with Brett Myers' 4.81 mark tops on the starting staff.

    The pitching woes aren't just in the Philadelphia rotation. After a fantastic season in 2008, closer Brad Lidge is off to a rocky beginning to the 2009 season with an 8.56 ERA. He's given up six earned in his last four appearances, failing to hold the opposition scoreless in any of those four games, and his control is escaping him with eight walks in his last 10 innings of work.

    For today's rubber game, the Dodgers will send out Chad Billingsley (6-1, 2.45) who is off his first and only loss of year, a 7-3 defeat to the Giants in LA last Friday. The righthander still has not allowed more than three runs in any start, and has pitched at least six innings in all seven outings.

    The Phils knocked him around and then some in two NLCS games last October, scoring 11 runs (10 earned) in five innings over two starts against Billingsley. He also lost in Philadelphia in the regular season a year ago, though they beat the Phillies twice with Billingsley on the hill in 2007.

    Cole Hamels (2-3, 6.17) will take the hill for Philly after picking up his first and only win of the season last Friday. The southpaw was sharp in his six innings of work in a 10-6 win over the Braves. A bit fragile in the early going, Hamels has pitched pretty well since the opening two shellings. For a guy that's been hurting, he's got 17 strikeouts and four walks in his last 13.2 innings.

    Hamels pitched the Phils to a pair of wins over LA in the NLCS last season. He's made four career starts vs. the Dodgers, all in 2008, and is 3-1 with a 2.25 ERA, having pitched seven innings in each of the four starts and never allowed more than two runs.

    The weather may not be the greatest today in Philadelphia. Temps should reach the low-70s, but there's a 30% chance of rain this afternoon and increasing as the day goes by. The forecast also calls for some strong winds in the 20-30 MPH range out of the South. That's straight out to center, fans.

    Behind the mask for the 1:05 p.m. (ET) first pitch should be Jeff Nelson who has so far favored the home team by a 4-2 margin as well as the Over by a 5-1 count. This is a getaway game for the umpires as well as the teams, so with the threatening weather we might see Nelson widen that strike zone of his just a little.

    At a -120 to -125 price, the Phillies with Hamels look very inviting over the Dodgers without Manny. But I like the Over 8½ even more, especially if you can get it at even money or better. Yeah, I know, Hamels and Billingsley are both exceptional pitchers and easily capable of shutting the opposing offenses down. Still, with Billingsley's recent history against the Phillies, the wind blowing out, Los Angeles bats doing fine so far without Ramirez and Nelson behind the plate, it adds up to an Over to me.

    NOTE: The W-L records shown for starting pitchers are their team's W-L mark when they start games. Statistical sources for this article were Retrosheet.org, Baseball-Reference.com and ESPN.com
  • Vonnegut
    SBR MVP
    • 01-08-09
    • 1499

    #2
    Like the Phils today, so much so I went with the RL. Thanks for the analysis Willie.
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    • ICE-BLOOD
      SBR MVP
      • 07-21-08
      • 1004

      #3
      Good info
      Looking for hamels to shut down the dodgers
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      • MilfDriller
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        • 11-23-08
        • 10186

        #4
        Took this myself.... great odds and seemed like the right spot.
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        • MilfDriller
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          • 11-23-08
          • 10186

          #5
          I think Hamels will have to do it all himself this game.

          1-0, Top 3rd. Man on 2nd, 0 outs.
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          • MilfDriller
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            • 11-23-08
            • 10186

            #6
            On 2nd, 2 outs...

            Throwing error. 1-1 game.

            Phillies aint winning this game. Dodgers are good.... they are very good with Manny.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Phila got to hang it up if they lose today
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              • MilfDriller
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                • 11-23-08
                • 10186

                #8
                1-1, B5

                Phils got 1st and 2nd, 0 outs
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                • Willie Bee
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                  • 02-14-06
                  • 15726

                  #9
                  My Over is not looking too good. C'mon Manuel! Let's get into that Phillies bullpen!
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                  • MilfDriller
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                    • 11-23-08
                    • 10186

                    #10
                    Hamels is giving em all he's got... and the Phils aint doin' shit.

                    1-1, B6

                    Utley K's ... 1 down
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                    • MilfDriller
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                      • 11-23-08
                      • 10186

                      #11
                      Pretty sure Phils aint winnin this game.
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                      • MilfDriller
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                        • 11-23-08
                        • 10186

                        #12
                        Hamels is at 97 pitches.... I think they'll let him do the 7th and that's it.
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                        • MilfDriller
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                          • 11-23-08
                          • 10186

                          #13
                          Yep, game over. Dude with one homer all year.... and 33 lifetime blasts one off of Hamels.

                          2-1, T7

                          Phillies couldn't scrape trash up out of a trash can ... let alone 2 more runs in this game
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                          • Willie Bee
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                            • 02-14-06
                            • 15726

                            #14
                            Loney actually had ZERO homers before last night's game. He's got enough power and sweet enough stroke to knock 16-20 out per year, been watching him play since high school. No shame at all for Hamels surrendering a long ball to him.
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                            • MilfDriller
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                              • 11-23-08
                              • 10186

                              #15
                              2-1, T8 .... 1st, 2 outs....

                              error.... 2nd and 3rd, 2 outs
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                              • MilfDriller
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                                • 11-23-08
                                • 10186

                                #16
                                It's a shame if you got money on the Phils...
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                                • MilfDriller
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                                  • 11-23-08
                                  • 10186

                                  #17
                                  B8

                                  Top of the order here. Dwayne Wade is pitching.
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                                  • MilfDriller
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                                    • 11-23-08
                                    • 10186

                                    #18
                                    1-2-3 in about 10 pitches

                                    ballgame
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                                    • MilfDriller
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                                      • 11-23-08
                                      • 10186

                                      #19
                                      3-1 ... game officially over
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                                      • MilfDriller
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                                        • 11-23-08
                                        • 10186

                                        #20
                                        B9 ... down 2 runs

                                        Howard leading off. Toni Braxton has a .56 ERA
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                                        • daggerkobe
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                                          • 03-25-08
                                          • 10744

                                          #21
                                          Broxton struck Werth out with a 102MPH fastball.
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                                          • daggerkobe
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 03-25-08
                                            • 10744

                                            #22
                                            Fatass struggling now. Now watch for a walkoff jack here.
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                                            • daggerkobe
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                                              • 03-25-08
                                              • 10744

                                              #23
                                              Tied game.
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                                              • cohen59
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                                                • 05-04-09
                                                • 321

                                                #24
                                                Lets go philly!!!!!!!!
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                                                • MilfDriller
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                                                  • 11-23-08
                                                  • 10186

                                                  #25
                                                  LOL

                                                  I turned the game off with 2 outs... and nobody on ...

                                                  now it's 3-3 ... man on 2nd.
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                                                  • Vonnegut
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-08-09
                                                    • 1499

                                                    #26
                                                    I have the runline here, need say, single by Rollins then a jack by Utley in the bottom of the 10th. Please.
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                                                    • MilfDriller
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                                                      • 11-23-08
                                                      • 10186

                                                      #27
                                                      Dodges will still win this, tho
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                                                      • Willie Bee
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                                                        • 02-14-06
                                                        • 15726

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Vonnegut
                                                        I have the runline here, need say, single by Rollins then a jack by Utley in the bottom of the 10th. Please.
                                                        I'd be happier if it was a 3-run bomb by Utley, maybe Victorino gets on via catcher's interference after Rollins singles
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                                                        • MilfDriller
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                                                          • 11-23-08
                                                          • 10186

                                                          #29
                                                          Von, I think you got ML and RL... so you should make out more or less even, no?
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                                                          • daggerkobe
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-25-08
                                                            • 10744

                                                            #30
                                                            First big test of the season and the fatass fails as usual. 102MPH fastball and a 2 cent brain.

                                                            Tigers blow 5 run lead.... M's blow 2 run lead in the 9th.... Dodgers also blow a 2 run lead in the 9th. Cant catch a break.
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                                                            • Vonnegut
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-08-09
                                                              • 1499

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                                              I'd be happier if it was a 3-run bomb by Utley, maybe Victorino gets on via catcher's interference after Rollins singles
                                                              That would work too Willie
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                                                              • Vonnegut
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 01-08-09
                                                                • 1499

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by MilfDriller
                                                                Von, I think you got ML and RL... so you should make out more or less even, no?
                                                                Nah man, just the runline. I really should just stick to totals.
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                                                                • daggerkobe
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-25-08
                                                                  • 10744

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Dodgers lead!
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                                                                  • MilfDriller
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                                                                    • 11-23-08
                                                                    • 10186

                                                                    #34
                                                                    walk. 2 outs, man on 1st

                                                                    Todd Martin batting
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                                                                    • Vonnegut
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-08-09
                                                                      • 1499

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Holy ****. What an afternoon.
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