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  • ShivaBowl
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-09-10
    • 5133

    #1471
    New Scientific Plays based on early lines. 7/9/2010

    CIN, FLA, KC ?



    ? CWS on a 5 game win streak
    ? KC on a 3 game win streak
    Lean to old M/L play CWS

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    • Formulawiz
      Restricted User
      • 01-12-09
      • 1589

      #1472
      Todays ML plays based on early lines

      ATL, COL, ARI
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      • EXhoosier10
        SBR MVP
        • 07-06-09
        • 3122

        #1473
        Originally posted by Formulawiz
        Todays ML plays based on early lines

        ATL, COL, ARI
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        • barts185
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-13-09
          • 815

          #1474
          Originally posted by ShivaBowl
          New M/L Plays

          Its not that hard, just time consuming, but I don't have the software, if the software helps cut the time off, this system let me know, please?
          Here is one play from yesterdays card that was left out because,
          SDP lost last 2
          Close SDP -160
          Pred M/L SDP 198
          198 -160 = 38
          ? anyone come up with the same thing



          You did not answer my ? please read my post again.
          I'm talking about way SDP was left out of yesterdays NEW M/L SYSTEM PLAYS.
          I know they lost two.
          If not they would have been a play.
          Thanks, for the software info.

          Okay, maybe I'm not sure what you are asking, so here's the questions which I see and my answer:


          "Its not that hard, just time consuming, but I don't have the software, if the software helps cut the time off, this system let me know, please?"

          No, the software will not help reduce the amount of time to come up with the plays.


          "? anyone come up with the same thing
          I'm talking about way SDP was left out of yesterdays NEW M/L SYSTEM PLAYS."

          SDP was one of a number of plays on the new system which were eliminated due to the different filters.

          Here's a list of all games that could have been plays on the new system yesterday but most of which were eliminated due to one or more filters (including the closing line as one of the filters)

          PIT
          SFO
          STL
          SDP
          CIN
          FLA
          LAD
          CLE
          TEX
          NYY


          Specifically for SDP, what I see is Pred ML WAS +198. You are saying SDP 198.
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          • ShivaBowl
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-09-10
            • 5133

            #1475
            Originally posted by barts185
            Okay, maybe I'm not sure what you are asking, so here's the questions which I see and my answer:


            "Its not that hard, just time consuming, but I don't have the software, if the software helps cut the time off, this system let me know, please?"

            No, the software will not help reduce the amount of time to come up with the plays.


            "? anyone come up with the same thing
            I'm talking about way SDP was left out of yesterdays NEW M/L SYSTEM PLAYS."

            SDP was one of a number of plays on the new system which were eliminated due to the different filters.

            Here's a list of all games that could have been plays on the new system yesterday but most of which were eliminated due to one or more filters (including the closing line as one of the filters)

            PIT
            SFO
            STL
            SDP
            CIN
            FLA
            LAD
            CLE
            TEX
            NYY
            WTF is wrong with you, for the last time I am only talking about the SDP.
            WIZ I will post the TPR plays, good luck with the new system.
            bol
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            • barts185
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 12-13-09
              • 815

              #1476
              Originally posted by ShivaBowl
              WTF is wrong with you, for the last time I am only talking about the SDP.
              WIZ I will post the TPR plays, good luck with the new system.
              bol
              Okay, I'm apparently just a problem, so I'm done posting anything here.

              Hope everyone figures it out and likes all the ambiguity.
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              • EXhoosier10
                SBR MVP
                • 07-06-09
                • 3122

                #1477
                Originally posted by ShivaBowl

                WTF is wrong with you, for the last time I am only talking about the SDP.
                WIZ I will post the TPR plays, good luck with the new system.
                bol
                Shiva, why are you calling people out? He was trying to help. To be completely honest, your English isn't the easiest to understand, and Bart was trying to help you with a question he didnt' understand. If you're not willing to be patient with others when they dont' understand you, don't expect the same in return when we can't understand your questions. Please don't clutter up this thread any more than it is.

                To try an answer your question, the predicted ML for San diego was never 198, it was +120 for washington. THe fact that san diego lost its last 2 games makes that a no play, no matter what other info you found.

                On another note, can anyone tell me what a predicted M/L of 2.72 for the philadelphia philles mean? How can I translate that number into +100 or -100 terms? How do you even get a negative decimal line? Any help would be appreciated and I could track that system as well.
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                • talnted
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-11-09
                  • 1664

                  #1478
                  damn man sbr hook it up
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                  • Formulawiz
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-12-09
                    • 1589

                    #1479
                    2.72 means the Road team is a 2.72 favorite.
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                    • EXhoosier10
                      SBR MVP
                      • 07-06-09
                      • 3122

                      #1480
                      Originally posted by Formulawiz
                      2.72 means the Road team is a 2.72 favorite.
                      does that mean -272?
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                      • konck
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 10-17-06
                        • 12554

                        #1481
                        Hey how good are the Yankees?
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                        • ShivaBowl
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-09-10
                          • 5133

                          #1482
                          TPR UPDATE
                          MIL OUT
                          TPR PLAYS 07/09

                          NYY if <-175
                          COL if <-175
                          TEX if <-175

                          STL out lost 3
                          BOS out lost 4
                          MIL if <-175 NO PLAY LOST 5
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                          • ShivaBowl
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-09-10
                            • 5133

                            #1483
                            Originally posted by EXhoosier10
                            does that mean -272?
                            YES the new system has Cinn as a -272 favorite over Phi
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                            • Joe Dogs
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-20-09
                              • 1931

                              #1484
                              New system plays as I see them

                              Cinnci
                              N.Y.Mets
                              Pittsburgh--Both teams on losing streaks
                              Florida
                              Kansas City

                              If these plays are correct.....3 plays bump heads with the moneyline system
                              Moneyline picks
                              Atlanta
                              Chi Sox
                              Arizona

                              Can anyone confirm this or are my calculations off.
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                              • EXhoosier10
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-06-09
                                • 3122

                                #1485
                                Originally posted by Joe Dogs
                                New system plays as I see them

                                Cinnci
                                N.Y.Mets
                                Pittsburgh--Both teams on losing streaks
                                Florida
                                Kansas City

                                If these plays are correct.....3 plays bump heads with the moneyline system
                                Moneyline picks
                                Atlanta
                                Chi Sox
                                Arizona

                                Can anyone confirm this or are my calculations off.
                                ML SYSTEM
                                White sox isn't plays, KC is on a 3 game win streak. COlorado is a play.

                                ATL COL ARI

                                NO TPR plays
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                                • EXhoosier10
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-06-09
                                  • 3122

                                  #1486
                                  Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                  TPR UPDATE
                                  MIL OUT
                                  TPR PLAYS 07/09

                                  NYY if <-175
                                  COL if <-175
                                  TEX if <-175

                                  STL out lost 3
                                  BOS out lost 4
                                  MIL if <-175 NO PLAY LOST 5
                                  "When using our Team Projected Runs System in any given matchup, a play on the home team is generated when the value is 1 or over, indicating the home team will be expected to give up less runs then their opponents and a play on the road team is warranted when the home team value is -1 or under, indicating the home team will be expected to give up more runs. Play dogs only."
                                  Stop posting plays if you aren't posting them correctly
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                                  • ShivaBowl
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 03-09-10
                                    • 5133

                                    #1487

                                    New Scientific Plays based on early lines. 7/9/2010 CIN, FLA, KC ? ? CWS on a 5 game win streak ? KC on a 3 game win streak Lean to old M/L play CWS


                                    Originally posted by Joe Dogs
                                    New system plays as I see them Cinnci N.Y.Mets Pittsburgh--Both teams on losing streaks Florida Kansas City If these plays are correct.....3 plays bump heads with the moneyline system Moneyline picks Atlanta Chi Sox Arizona Can anyone confirm this or are my calculations off.

                                    Mets are out because you can’t bet against ATL 2 game win streak.
                                    Pitt out lost 3 Mil lost 5
                                    CINN IN
                                    FLA IN
                                    KC IN
                                    KC @ CWS is what it is, wow, flip a coin.


                                    Good Work Joe,
                                    BOL
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                                    • ShivaBowl
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-09-10
                                      • 5133

                                      #1488
                                      Joe Dogs, why don`t you start posting the New System Plays, email me.
                                      BOL
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                                      • EXhoosier10
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-06-09
                                        • 3122

                                        #1489
                                        Originally posted by ShivaBowl

                                        Mets are out because you can’t bet against ATL 2 game win streak.
                                        Pitt out lost 3 Mil lost 5
                                        CINN IN
                                        FLA IN
                                        KC IN

                                        Good Work Joe,
                                        BOL
                                        KC isn't a play on any system because CHW is on a 5 game win streak. Chicago Cubs are a play on the new system as of now with a LAD line of -155.
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                                        • ShivaBowl
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 5133

                                          #1490
                                          xxx
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                                          • ShivaBowl
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 03-09-10
                                            • 5133

                                            #1491
                                            TPR System went 1-0 yesterday. 8-1 past 5 days.
                                            COL WIN
                                            +$835.00

                                            TPR Plays later today

                                            TPR PLAYS 07/09
                                            NYY if <-175 out WIN
                                            COL if <-175 WIN
                                            TEX if <-175 out LOSS
                                            MIL out lost 5 WIN
                                            STL out lost 3 WIN
                                            BOS out lost 4 WIN

                                            Comp 7/9/2010
                                            Take Colorado W/De LA Rosa over San Diego W/Correia NO PLAY if < -135 or > -175
                                            FYI, COL is a nice play today, if the line holds above -135 and stays under -175
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                                            • EXhoosier10
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-06-09
                                              • 3122

                                              #1492
                                              Tpr only plays dogs. Your own system might be 8-1, but not tpr
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                                              • HoulihansTX
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-12-09
                                                • 30566

                                                #1493
                                                Here's what I have for today

                                                ML system
                                                Braves
                                                Brew Crew
                                                Rockies
                                                D-Bags

                                                TPR
                                                Only Dogs
                                                Boston
                                                STL
                                                Favs
                                                Colorado
                                                NYY

                                                New System( I'm sure not confident in the ML conversion. Is -1.50, -150??? Then is 1.68, +168??)

                                                If it is there are two plays, but they are above the ML range White Sox's, and Tampa.

                                                Please correct my mistakes, b/c I will contribute where I can.
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                                                • Formulawiz
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                  • 1589

                                                  #1494
                                                  ML system went 3-1 yesterday and the new System went 2-2

                                                  Todays ML plays based on early lines.

                                                  ATL, SF, COL, ARI, TOR, LAA, NYY

                                                  New system plays

                                                  ATL, SF, HOU, BOS, LAA, NYY. Seems many plays are the same as the ML system. Very interesting.

                                                  Can anyone volunteer to post the new system plays
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                                                  • ShivaBowl
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                    • 5133

                                                    #1495
                                                    Today's TPR plays, based on early lines.

                                                    BOS
                                                    STL
                                                    MIL if <-175
                                                    COL
                                                    NYY
                                                    Comp Selection from Sportrends.com
                                                    Take Arizona W/Kennedy over Florida W/Robertson NO PLAY if < -110 or > -175
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                                                    • HoulihansTX
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-12-09
                                                      • 30566

                                                      #1496
                                                      Toronto/NYY/SF/LAA do not repersent a 25cent dissonance yet. Or am I wrong?

                                                      Tor(Proj +105/ Actual -115 according to pinny 20 cents

                                                      NYY(Proj -140/ Actual -110 pinny 30 cents(but in Mariners favor)

                                                      SF( Proj -105/ Actual -110 pinny 5cents

                                                      LAA(Proj -105/ Actual +130 pinny 35 cents(but in A's favor)

                                                      I may be incorrect?

                                                      Also the new system parameters read as though they need fit the TPR requirements then the ML requirements. I got White Sox, and Tampa. Though both are out of range of the ML system.

                                                      If Joe Dogs understands the system then I would love for him to psot the plays, and or post how to come up with the plays.

                                                      Thank you
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                                                      • barts185
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-13-09
                                                        • 815

                                                        #1497
                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                        Toronto/NYY/SF/LAA do not repersent a 25cent dissonance yet. Or am I wrong?

                                                        I know I said I was done, but this is part of the question I have had and have never gotten an answer to other than "here's the plays you should be able to figure it out."

                                                        There are times when a play is listed where I don't see any way it came close to being a 25 cent difference on any sort of consensus line.

                                                        To use the first game today, TOR - as far as I can tell, this would have to be a line of -120 to be a play. I can't see any way this was ever -120 on any consensus line.

                                                        Take Care,
                                                        Bart
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                                                        • Dwell
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 03-09-10
                                                          • 141

                                                          #1498
                                                          I check this thread daily, and I can't understand why people (particularly Formulawiz and Shivabowl) treat everybody like their encroaching on a territory that is not their own. I suggest that those of us who would like to work as a cohesive unit with a unified goal start a new thread, and rid ourselves of any smug attitude. Exhoosier, barts185, houlihans, anybody else...ya dig?
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                                                          • barts185
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 12-13-09
                                                            • 815

                                                            #1499
                                                            Originally posted by Dwell
                                                            I check this thread daily, and I can't understand why people (particularly Formulawiz and Shivabowl) treat everybody like their encroaching on a territory that is not their own. I suggest that those of us who would like to work as a cohesive unit with a unified goal start a new thread, and rid ourselves of any smug attitude. Exhoosier, barts185, houlihans, anybody else...ya dig?

                                                            You jumped the gun on me.

                                                            Look for a new thread to be started over the all-star break.

                                                            The all-star break seems like a good starting point for a new thread. That way, it's a defined starting point, as opposed to just a particular day.

                                                            I wish everyone here all the best.


                                                            Take Care,
                                                            Bart
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                                                            • ShivaBowl
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-09-10
                                                              • 5133

                                                              #1500
                                                              Originally posted by EXhoosier10
                                                              "When using our Team Projected Runs System in any given matchup, a play on the home team is generated when the value is 1 or over, indicating the home team will be expected to give up less runs then their opponents and a play on the road team is warranted when the home team value is -1 or under, indicating the home team will be expected to give up more runs. Play dogs only." Stop posting plays if you aren't posting them correctly
                                                              EXhoosier10,
                                                              Back when the Formulawiz asked me to takeover posting the daily TPR plays for peterpan19.
                                                              I asked the Wiz and peterpan19 about the Play Dogs Only Filter and they both responded, that they
                                                              were no longer using that filter. Also please go back and look over the TPR system on Sportrends.com
                                                              They have updated to; Try To Play Dogs Only.
                                                              Thanks,
                                                              BOL


                                                              Barts185, I apologize for the WTF, I really though you were giving me the
                                                              runaround, will send you a PM.
                                                              GL
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                                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 5133

                                                                #1501
                                                                Hey HoulihansTX,
                                                                I would be, more then happy, to help you with the new system, like I have in the past with sportrends.
                                                                BOL
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                                                                • Formulawiz
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 1589

                                                                  #1502
                                                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                  Toronto/NYY/SF/LAA do not repersent a 25cent dissonance yet. Or am I wrong?

                                                                  Tor(Proj +105/ Actual -115 according to pinny 20 cents

                                                                  NYY(Proj -140/ Actual -110 pinny 30 cents(but in Mariners favor)

                                                                  SF( Proj -105/ Actual -110 pinny 5cents

                                                                  LAA(Proj -105/ Actual +130 pinny 35 cents(but in A's favor)

                                                                  I may be incorrect?

                                                                  Also the new system parameters read as though they need fit the TPR requirements then the ML requirements. I got White Sox, and Tampa. Though both are out of range of the ML system.

                                                                  If Joe Dogs understands the system then I would love for him to psot the plays, and or post how to come up with the plays.

                                                                  Thank you
                                                                  Your still not understanding. Your suppose to look at the majority of casinos ML and not just Pinny. Got it?
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                                                                  • Joe Dogs
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-20-09
                                                                    • 1931

                                                                    #1503
                                                                    Hear is what I have with current lines

                                                                    Play Atlanta
                                                                    Mets +168 actual line +111
                                                                    Value on Atlanta

                                                                    Play San Fran
                                                                    Nats +180 actual line -103

                                                                    Play Brew crew -197 actual Line -163 According to sportrends your getting a 34.discount
                                                                    play Boston
                                                                    Toronto +130 actual line -117

                                                                    play Houston -203 actual line -125 According to sportrends your getting a $2.03 team for $1.25

                                                                    Right at the moment I'm not seeing cent spread on the yanks....That could change

                                                                    Hope this helps guys.....Good luck tonight
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                                                                    • Formulawiz
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                                      • 1589

                                                                      #1504
                                                                      Originally posted by Joe Dogs
                                                                      Hear is what I have with current lines

                                                                      Play Atlanta
                                                                      Mets +168 actual line +111
                                                                      Value on Atlanta

                                                                      Play San Fran
                                                                      Nats +180 actual line -103

                                                                      Play Brew crew -197 actual Line -163 According to sportrends your getting a 34.discount
                                                                      play Boston
                                                                      Toronto +130 actual line -117

                                                                      play Houston -203 actual line -125 According to sportrends your getting a $2.03 team for $1.25

                                                                      Right at the moment I'm not seeing cent spread on the yanks....That could change

                                                                      Hope this helps guys.....Good luck tonight

                                                                      JOEDOGS nice job explaining the new system. By the way MIL was a play dropped to -170
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                                                                      • barts185
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 12-13-09
                                                                        • 815

                                                                        #1505
                                                                        Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                        JOEDOGS nice job explaining the new system. By the way MIL was a play dropped to -170
                                                                        I think LAA was also a play on the new system.

                                                                        Pred OAK +123 actual OAK -135 value on LAA

                                                                        LAA streak Win 1
                                                                        OAK streak Lose 4

                                                                        Both pitchers more than 20 innings pitched.


                                                                        Good Luck,
                                                                        Bart
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