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  • Betdevotion
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-24-14
    • 17

    #71
    BOS and COL GJ.
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    • on3
      SBR MVP
      • 08-23-10
      • 2197

      #72
      UPDATED for 4/7/2014
      System(s) record Chase:

      Regular system: 14-1-0; Profit: +3.28 units
      Filtered System: 3-0-0; Profit: +3 units
      5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

      Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
      Game 1 (A) win = 11-4; 2-1
      Game 2 (B) win = 0-4; 0-1; 0-0
      Game 3 (C) win = 3-1; 1-0; 0-0

      REGULAR FOR 4/8/2014
      (A) SF -148
      (A) WAS -173
      (A) TOR -175

      Filtered
      (A) TOR -175

      5/2
      none
      Last edited by on3; 04-08-14, 05:01 PM.
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      • Betdevotion
        SBR Rookie
        • 02-24-14
        • 17

        #73
        Hmm... on bet365 TOR is 9.0 !
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        • TenCount
          SBR Hustler
          • 03-04-14
          • 87

          #74
          I get tired of reading through the ?'s myself boys, sorry but I gotta clarify sumthin. I get the betting pattern for filtered plays, yins covered that well. But what is the bets for just regular plays? A loses, so you bet B at what you lost on A + 1 unit? And C is same? B losses + 1 unit?
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          • Linkan
            SBR Rookie
            • 03-31-14
            • 19

            #75
            As i understood On3's post earlier in the thread (post #15), until April 14th he will bet:
            A: 0,5 unit profit
            B: 1 unit profit (A losses + 1 unit)
            C: 2 units profit (A+B losses +2 units)

            Filtered is doubled up. So A 1 unit and so on. Thats my perception..
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            • on3
              SBR MVP
              • 08-23-10
              • 2197

              #76
              Originally posted by TenCount
              I get tired of reading through the ?'s myself boys, sorry but I gotta clarify sumthin. I get the betting pattern for filtered plays, yins covered that well. But what is the bets for just regular plays? A loses, so you bet B at what you lost on A + 1 unit? And C is same? B losses + 1 unit?
              Let's use dollars instead of units in this explanation. Each series is to win a set amount, in this example, $10.

              If (A) Team XX -150 (bet 15 to win 10) loses. Then the (B) Team XX -170 bet is (15 loss carryover, so 17 to win 10 essentially becomes 32 to win 10 because you have to recover the carryover). You follow me so far? If (B) loses, then that means (C) Team XX -125 is (15 loss carryover + 32 loss carryover + the current bet (12.50) = 59.50 to win 10).

              So if A loses, you bet B + A carryover. If B loses, you bet C + B carryover + A carryover.
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              • on3
                SBR MVP
                • 08-23-10
                • 2197

                #77
                Once I start running the labby lines, all the amounts will be spelled out.
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                • on3
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-23-10
                  • 2197

                  #78
                  UPDATED for 4/9/2014
                  System(s) record Chase:

                  Regular system: 17-1-0; Profit: +6.28 units
                  Filtered System: 4-0-0; Profit: +4 units
                  5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

                  Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                  Game 1 (A) win = 14-4; 3-1
                  Game 2 (B) win = 0-4; 0-1; 0-0
                  Game 3 (C) win = 3-1; 1-0; 0-0

                  Regular
                  none

                  Filtered
                  none

                  5/2
                  none
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                  • TenCount
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 03-04-14
                    • 87

                    #79
                    Originally posted by on3
                    Let's use dollars instead of units in this explanation. Each series is to win a set amount, in this example, $10.

                    If (A) Team XX -150 (bet 15 to win 10) loses. Then the (B) Team XX -170 bet is (15 loss carryover, so 17 to win 10 essentially becomes 32 to win 10 because you have to recover the carryover). You follow me so far? If (B) loses, then that means (C) Team XX -125 is (15 loss carryover + 32 loss carryover + the current bet (12.50) = 59.50 to win 10).

                    So if A loses, you bet B + A carryover. If B loses, you bet C + B carryover + A carryover.
                    Perfect description my man. Appreciate u taking the time even though I'm sure you have been asked these ?'s way too many times over the last few years. I will be tailing all year good and bad with $50 units. BOL
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                    • Linkan
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 03-31-14
                      • 19

                      #80
                      Originally posted by on3
                      Let's use dollars instead of units in this explanation. Each series is to win a set amount, in this example, $10.

                      If (A) Team XX -150 (bet 15 to win 10) loses. Then the (B) Team XX -170 bet is (15 loss carryover, so 17 to win 10 essentially becomes 32 to win 10 because you have to recover the carryover). You follow me so far? If (B) loses, then that means (C) Team XX -125 is (15 loss carryover + 32 loss carryover + the current bet (12.50) = 59.50 to win 10).

                      So if A loses, you bet B + A carryover. If B loses, you bet C + B carryover + A carryover.
                      On3: Not that i dont understand your explanation or question it, im just wondering what you mean with this qoute :

                      "Until then, I am playing (A) bets as a half unit, (B) bets as one unit, (C) bets as 2 units. Filtered wil be doubled."


                      I interpreted these amounts as the ones to gain in NET profit from each bet. But your explanation states 1 unit net profit for each bet. Am i missing something?

                      Only if you feel you have time to answer. I really appreciate this thread and your effort. I will be giving you all the points i can through the season.
                      Regards.
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                      • TenCount
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 03-04-14
                        • 87

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Linkan
                        On3: Not that i dont understand your explanation or question it, im just wondering what you mean with this qoute :

                        "Until then, I am playing (A) bets as a half unit, (B) bets as one unit, (C) bets as 2 units. Filtered wil be doubled."


                        I interpreted these amounts as the ones to gain in NET profit from each bet. But your explanation states 1 unit net profit for each bet. Am i missing something?

                        Only if you feel you have time to answer. I really appreciate this thread and your effort. I will be giving you all the points i can through the season.
                        Regards.
                        He's talking about just the first few weeks of the season. Then it will bump up to that description just given.
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                        • on3
                          SBR MVP
                          • 08-23-10
                          • 2197

                          #82
                          Originally posted by Linkan
                          On3: Not that i dont understand your explanation or question it, im just wondering what you mean with this qoute :

                          "Until then, I am playing (A) bets as a half unit, (B) bets as one unit, (C) bets as 2 units. Filtered wil be doubled."


                          I interpreted these amounts as the ones to gain in NET profit from each bet. But your explanation states 1 unit net profit for each bet. Am i missing something?

                          Only if you feel you have time to answer. I really appreciate this thread and your effort. I will be giving you all the points i can through the season.
                          Regards.
                          That's just me limiting my action for the first couple weeks. And it was supposed to be interpreted as "each series is to win a .5 unit" as opposed to winning a full unit. The A, B, C progression were just my ballpark estimates of my bet amounts (my RISK amounts), not amounts to win. Hopefully that makes sense.

                          It wasnt meant to be an official declaration, I was giving my two cents on how I'm playing the first couple weeks.
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                          • thompson182
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 05-25-09
                            • 20

                            #83
                            Any plays today?
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                            • on3
                              SBR MVP
                              • 08-23-10
                              • 2197

                              #84
                              UPDATED for 4/10/2014
                              System(s) record Chase:

                              Regular system: 17-1-0; Profit: +6.28 units
                              Filtered System: 4-0-0; Profit: +4 units
                              5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

                              Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                              Game 1 (A) win = 14-4; 3-1
                              Game 2 (B) win = 0-4; 0-1; 0-0
                              Game 3 (C) win = 3-1; 1-0; 0-0

                              Regular
                              none

                              Filtered
                              none

                              5/2
                              none
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                              • on3
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-23-10
                                • 2197

                                #85
                                UPDATED for 4/11/2014
                                System(s) record Chase:

                                Regular system: 17-1-0; Profit: +6.28 units
                                Filtered System: 4-0-0; Profit: +4 units
                                5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

                                Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                Game 1 (A) win = 14-4; 3-1
                                Game 2 (B) win = 0-4; 0-1; 0-0
                                Game 3 (C) win = 3-1; 1-0; 0-0

                                Regular -- all plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
                                (A) SEA -148
                                (A) BAL -148
                                (A) TEX -220/-106 play RL
                                (A) STL -147
                                (A) SF -168
                                (A) LAA -160

                                Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
                                (A) BAL -148

                                5/2
                                none
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                                • knugen
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-09-09
                                  • 2612

                                  #86
                                  Nerver mind
                                  Last edited by knugen; 04-11-14, 03:02 PM.
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                                  • thompson182
                                    SBR Rookie
                                    • 05-25-09
                                    • 20

                                    #87
                                    What happens when you take runline and team only wins by one? Chase ends?
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                                    • on3
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-23-10
                                      • 2197

                                      #88
                                      UPDATED for 4/12/2014
                                      System(s) record Chase:

                                      Regular system: 20-1-0; Profit: +9.28 units
                                      Filtered System: 4-0-0; Profit: +4 units
                                      5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

                                      Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                      Game 1 (A) win = 17-6; 3-2
                                      Game 2 (B) win = 0-4; 0-1; 0-0
                                      Game 3 (C) win = 3-1; 1-0; 0-0

                                      Regular -- all plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
                                      (B) BAL -113
                                      (B) TEX -159

                                      Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
                                      (B) BAL -113

                                      5/2
                                      none
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                                      • thompson182
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 05-25-09
                                        • 20

                                        #89
                                        Baltimore closed at o/u 8.5.
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                                        • imotiv8
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-28-09
                                          • 892

                                          #90
                                          STL?
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                                          • thompson182
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 05-25-09
                                            • 20

                                            #91
                                            Stl closed under - 145
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                                            • bbedore
                                              SBR Hustler
                                              • 12-20-12
                                              • 72

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by thompson182
                                              Stl closed under - 145
                                              Doesn't matter. The chase started yesterday.

                                              Since they lost yesterday, they should have been played again today. My suspicion is the On3 simply missed that one as he put in the plays for today. His record of 20-1 reflects that.
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                                              • bbedore
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 12-20-12
                                                • 72

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by thompson182
                                                Baltimore closed at o/u 8.5.
                                                Again, doesn't matter. The chase started as a filtered chase (greater than -145 odds and O/U at 9 or more). It does not lose its status as a filtered chase simply because the B game does not fit the criteria.

                                                Once a chase starts as a filtered chase, it remains filtered for the life of that chase.
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                                                • BaseballWireGod
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 04-02-14
                                                  • 15

                                                  #94
                                                  confusing! haha
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                                                  • on3
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 08-23-10
                                                    • 2197

                                                    #95
                                                    STL (A) bet closed under -145 so it was a no play. BAL/TOR (A) bet closed under o/u 9 so it wasnt a filtered play. Either way, both games won today, but they wont be reflected in the totals.
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                                                    • bbedore
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 12-20-12
                                                      • 72

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by on3
                                                      STL (A) bet closed under -145 so it was a no play. BAL/TOR (A) bet closed under o/u 9 so it wasnt a filtered play. Either way, both games won today, but they wont be reflected in the totals.
                                                      I get the St. Louis (A) closing under -145, but you have the Baltimore (A) bet listed as filtered, as well as the (B) bet. Would it be possible to edit the posts to reflect the actual plays?
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                                                      • on3
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-23-10
                                                        • 2197

                                                        #97
                                                        UPDATED for 4/12/2014
                                                        System(s) record Chase:

                                                        Regular system: 21-1-0; Profit: +10.28 units
                                                        Filtered System: 4-0-0; Profit: +4 units
                                                        5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

                                                        Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                                        Game 1 (A) win = 17-6; 3-1
                                                        Game 2 (B) win = 1-5; 0-1; 0-0
                                                        Game 3 (C) win = 3-1; 1-0; 0-0

                                                        Regular -- all plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
                                                        (C) TEX -155

                                                        Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
                                                        none

                                                        5/2
                                                        none
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                                                        • on3
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-23-10
                                                          • 2197

                                                          #98
                                                          UPDATED for 4/14/2014
                                                          System(s) record Chase:

                                                          Regular system: 22-1-0; Profit: +11.28 units
                                                          Filtered System: 4-0-0; Profit: +4 units
                                                          5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

                                                          Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                                          Game 1 (A) win = 17-6; 3-1
                                                          Game 2 (B) win = 1-5; 0-1; 0-0
                                                          Game 3 (C) win = 4-1; 1-0; 0-0

                                                          Regular -- all plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
                                                          none

                                                          Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
                                                          none

                                                          5/2
                                                          none
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                                                          • TenCount
                                                            SBR Hustler
                                                            • 03-04-14
                                                            • 87

                                                            #99
                                                            Love the system and the work you do. I'm wondering if anyone has looked at playing this same system on away games for dominent teams. It looks like we are basically betting that the much better team will not get swept at home. I imagine that if a team who vegas lists as a big favorite away is as, or even more telling of who they believe is the better squad. Like say the top 4 teams overall playing away from home at -145 and over against sub par competition. I can't imagine they get completely swept very often even away from home. Especially if they have 1 or 2 dominant pitchers in their rotation. Just a thought. If no one has back tested this I may take a look at it. Obviously the current system described is working just fine and why would you fix something that isn't broke, I'm just curious. Thanx again man...
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                                                            • on3
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-23-10
                                                              • 2197

                                                              #100
                                                              Originally posted by TenCount
                                                              Love the system and the work you do. I'm wondering if anyone has looked at playing this same system on away games for dominent teams. It looks like we are basically betting that the much better team will not get swept at home. I imagine that if a team who vegas lists as a big favorite away is as, or even more telling of who they believe is the better squad. Like say the top 4 teams overall playing away from home at -145 and over against sub par competition. I can't imagine they get completely swept very often even away from home. Especially if they have 1 or 2 dominant pitchers in their rotation. Just a thought. If no one has back tested this I may take a look at it. Obviously the current system described is working just fine and why would you fix something that isn't broke, I'm just curious. Thanx again man...
                                                              The away faves was done previously by TheRizz and it was too volatile. Some seasons up big, other seasons down big. The home favorites remained consistent.
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                                                              • on3
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-23-10
                                                                • 2197

                                                                #101
                                                                looks like our 1 game for today has been PPD


                                                                UPDATED for 4/15/2014
                                                                System(s) record Chase:

                                                                Regular system: 22-1-0; Profit: +11.28 units
                                                                Filtered System: 4-0-0; Profit: +4 units
                                                                5/2 chase: 0-0-0; profit: 0 units

                                                                Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
                                                                Game 1 (A) win = 17-6; 3-1
                                                                Game 2 (B) win = 1-5; 0-1; 0-0
                                                                Game 3 (C) win = 4-1; 1-0; 0-0

                                                                Regular -- all plays must close at -145 or higher to be an official play
                                                                none

                                                                Filtered -- all plays must meet 'Regular' requirement and close at an O/U of 9 or higher to be an official play
                                                                none

                                                                5/2
                                                                none
                                                                Last edited by on3; 04-15-14, 04:03 PM.
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                                                                • knugen
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                                  • 2612

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Will we start the yankees serie tomorrow with game 1?
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                                                                  • on3
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-23-10
                                                                    • 2197

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by knugen
                                                                    Will we start the yankees serie tomorrow with game 1?
                                                                    They start a 4 game series against Tampa bay, that will be a play depending on the line.
                                                                    Last edited by on3; 04-16-14, 09:59 AM.
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                                                                    • hagball52
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 09-22-10
                                                                      • 3053

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by knugen
                                                                      Will we start the yankees serie tomorrow with game 1?
                                                                      They are only playing a 2 game series with the Cubs. It's not a play.
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                                                                      • on3
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 08-23-10
                                                                        • 2197

                                                                        #105
                                                                        No play on Yankees this morning. It's only a 2 game series.
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