EP36's Tennis Talk

**sonnybaby** · 07-13-10, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by newjerseydevils

yeah made a bit on zeballos as well........whats ur challenger play?

not mines ep36's

**newjerseydevils** · 07-13-10, 12:22 PM

oh okay..........how do you even cap these challanger games....bunch of nobodys playing each other....its hard to find stats on scrubs.....plus i would stay away from aptos challanger...there is no way to know the score for it....i made a play yesterday...even thier official site does not have scores....so you have to call your book to ask who won

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 12:39 PM

CHALLENGER PLAY

GREMELMAYR -160 [Rimini]
Gremelmayr is drawing the talented young Turk, Marsel Ilhan. The German comes in fresh off a Challenger title on clay in Holland. He beat some capable players in Koellerer, Darcis & Kamke. It was easily his best result of the year in an otherwise blah year for Gremelmayr. Ilhan isn't without merit, but hard surfaces are better suited to his game at this point. He also is making the quick turnaround from grass to clay after playing a Davis Cup tie for Turkey against Great Britain on the weekend. Ilhan is just getting started playing on dirt whereas Gremelmayr has some years of experience on the surface. With the added confidence of winning a tournament last week, I think the German will prevail here - but don't be surprised if Ilhan pushes him a little.

Also for spite for Massu playing like an absolute mug in Davis Cup play ...

STRUVAY +240 [Bogota]
Young Colombian getting to play at home in Bogota against Massu who looked completely lost against Minar in losing in straight sets in the Davis Cup. Show up unmotivated Massu and let this kid decapitate you.

As with all Challengers, make sure you keep your head about you when making your bets. It's kind of like exhibition matches in other spots, motivation is a weird thing for some in these.

**shari91** · 07-13-10, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Also for spite for Massu playing like an absolute mug in Davis Cup play ... Show up unmotivated Massu and let this kid decapitate you.

Best of luck EP!

**sonnybaby** · 07-13-10, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by shari91

Best of luck EP!

**sonnybaby** · 07-13-10, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

CHALLENGER PLAY

GREMELMAYR -160 [Rimini]
Gremelmayr is drawing the talented young Turk, Marsel Ilhan. The German comes in fresh off a Challenger title on clay in Holland. He beat some capable players in Koellerer, Darcis & Kamke. It was easily his best result of the year in an otherwise blah year for Gremelmayr. Ilhan isn't without merit, but hard surfaces are better suited to his game at this point. He also is making the quick turnaround from grass to clay after playing a Davis Cup tie for Turkey against Great Britain on the weekend. Ilhan is just getting started playing on dirt whereas Gremelmayr has some years of experience on the surface. With the added confidence of winning a tournament last week, I think the German will prevail here - but don't be surprised if Ilhan pushes him a little.

Also for spite for Massu playing like an absolute mug in Davis Cup play ...

STRUVAY +240 [Bogota]
Young Colombian getting to play at home in Bogota against Massu who looked completely lost against Minar in losing in straight sets in the Davis Cup. Show up unmotivated Massu and let this kid decapitate you.

As with all Challengers, make sure you keep your head about you when making your bets. It's kind of like exhibition matches in other spots, motivation is a weird thing for some in these.

i need a link for these games

**newjerseydevils** · 07-13-10, 01:14 PM

for gametracker just go to google and type in: atp challenger

there is no video link

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 02:23 PM

Gremelmayr-Ilhan

Service Unavailable

http://www.protennislive.com/frameset.asp?year=2010&wkno=28c&lang=en&tabno=2&eventid=2117&ref=%20www.atpworldtour.com

**sonnybaby** · 07-13-10, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Gremelmayr-Ilhan

http://www.protennislive.com/framese...pworldtour.com

thanks ep can u post the other game link when it starts thanks

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 02:41 PM

FU Nicolas Massu!

Service Unavailable

http://www.protennislive.com/frameset.asp?year=2010&wkno=28c&lang=en&tabno=1&eventid=0576&ref=%20www.atpworldtour.com

It'll be at that link when their match starts at 4pm ET.

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 02:43 PM

Originally posted by newjerseydevils

oh okay..........how do you even cap these challanger games....bunch of nobodys playing each other....its hard to find stats on scrubs.....plus i would stay away from aptos challanger...there is no way to know the score for it....i made a play yesterday...even thier official site does not have scores....so you have to call your book to ask who won

I generally will only bet on Challengers where I know something about the players. That usually means they are fringe ATP level guys who bounce back and forth between the main draws on the ATP level and Challenger. But yeah as to what you said, I will not wager on a match where there is no means to a scoreboard.

At tennisinsight.com, you can search for players and see what tournaments they have played in, etc. so you can have a clue as to their form. It's a pay service for the most part, but you can sift through their play history for free.

**sonnybaby** · 07-13-10, 02:50 PM

STRUVAY
do u have a link for this one

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 02:52 PM

It's the link in the post above under FU Nicolas Massu. Their match wont show up until it starts in a little bit.

Gremelmayr wins 6-2 in the 1st.

**sonnybaby** · 07-13-10, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

It's the link in the post above under FU Nicolas Massu. Their match wont show up until it starts in a little bit.

Gremelmayr wins 6-2 in the 1st.

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 03:16 PM

Ilhan put up less fight than I thought. 6-2, 6-3. Gremelmayr wins. Time for Nicolas Massu to no show and give me my money back for that Davis Cup fiasco, ya f*ck! Let's go Struvay!

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 04:12 PM

That's right Massu. Leave the f-ing door open for a 3rd set you assclown. Struuuuuuvay all the way. After dropping the opener 6-3, Struvay's won the second, 6-1. Spite has been fun so far.

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 04:16 PM

That's right you scumbag, broke on the 1st service game of the 3rd set.

**sonnybaby** · 07-13-10, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

CHALLENGER PLAY

GREMELMAYR -160 [Rimini]
Gremelmayr is drawing the talented young Turk, Marsel Ilhan. The German comes in fresh off a Challenger title on clay in Holland. He beat some capable players in Koellerer, Darcis & Kamke. It was easily his best result of the year in an otherwise blah year for Gremelmayr. Ilhan isn't without merit, but hard surfaces are better suited to his game at this point. He also is making the quick turnaround from grass to clay after playing a Davis Cup tie for Turkey against Great Britain on the weekend. Ilhan is just getting started playing on dirt whereas Gremelmayr has some years of experience on the surface. With the added confidence of winning a tournament last week, I think the German will prevail here - but don't be surprised if Ilhan pushes him a little.

Also for spite for Massu playing like an absolute mug in Davis Cup play ...

STRUVAY +240 [Bogota]
Young Colombian getting to play at home in Bogota against Massu who looked completely lost against Minar in losing in straight sets in the Davis Cup. Show up unmotivated Massu and let this kid decapitate you.

As with all Challengers, make sure you keep your head about you when making your bets. It's kind of like exhibition matches in other spots, motivation is a weird thing for some in these.

GREAT FU$KIN CALL

**beefcake** · 07-13-10, 06:54 PM

Missed the play EP,but great thinking on the angle for Massau,his head was no where near anywhere for the match!!

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 07:10 PM

Well I feel anyone who played Massu in the Davis Cup like I did was owed that one. Thanks for being a punk today Massu.

**JNic** · 07-13-10, 07:14 PM

great job fading Massu! gremelmayr also got a very easy win, keep up the good work with challengers

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 10:04 PM

WEDNESDAY

STARACE -156
Starace draws Seppi. Their round one matches were both one sided, but Starace was far more impressive with 80% of his 1st serves getting in, winning 75% of the points off of them. Seppi won under 60% on his 1st serve. For the season, Seppi is 7-7 on clay with nothing special as far as results. Starace came into Bastad on the heels of two clay Challenger finals. He's had a pretty solid season on dirt and has more experience at this event. If his serve is solid again. Starace should find his way past his fellow Italian.

**Wilforth** · 07-13-10, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

WEDNESDAY

STARACE -156
Starace draws Seppi. Their round one matches were both one sided, but Starace was far more impressive with 80% of his 1st serves getting in, winning 75% of the points off of them. Seppi won under 60% on his 1st serve. For the season, Seppi is 7-7 on clay with nothing special as far as results. Starace came into Bastad on the heels of two clay Challenger finals. He's had a pretty solid season on dirt and has more experience at this event. If his serve is solid again. Starace should find his way past his fellow Italian.

Won't touch this one. Starace is the better play but any outcome is possible. The result may be determined by factors outside the court! Starace is already at -175 at some books.

**pico** · 07-13-10, 11:06 PM

nice records. -500 chalks in these small tourneys are way overpriced.

**newjerseydevils** · 07-13-10, 11:10 PM

wow starace ML sky rocketting

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-13-10, 11:14 PM

ZEBALLOS-FERRERO OVER 21.5 [-110]
Zeballos served very well against Beck yesterday in his straight sets win. Ferrero comes into this one with his form in question. JCF played just two grass court matches and lost both. After a solid South American clay run, JCF fell off in Europe at just 6-4 compared to 14-1 in the South American swing. With a match already in hand on this Bastad surface, Zeballos could get off to a good start against JCF. If he holds serve, this could definitely get over.

**newjerseydevils** · 07-13-10, 11:51 PM

Starace price was getting too chalky....so i just did 2 seperate parleys........

Cuevas/Ferrer

Starace/Ferrer

Hope they hit....good luck to u tomm eaglesphan

**PetrGasparik** · 07-14-10, 03:34 AM

Struvay was a great call. I missed it

**Yezzir** · 07-14-10, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by Wilforth

Won't touch this one. Starace is the better play but any outcome is possible. The result may be determined by factors outside the court! Starace is already at -175 at some books.

The odds have been changing since as early as 11.30pm here in the UK last night.

**PetrGasparik** · 07-14-10, 03:42 AM

Originally posted by Wilforth

Won't touch this one. Starace is the better play but any outcome is possible. The result may be determined by factors outside the court! Starace is already at -175 at some books.

so maybe OVER 22.5?

**whitedogau** · 07-14-10, 04:23 AM

starace

**newjerseydevils** · 07-14-10, 06:45 AM

wow.........starace played like crap....hopefully u missed this game eagles....up 7-6 in the tie break third set with a chance to serve for match and screws it up...what a clown

**EaglesPhan36** · 07-14-10, 07:13 AM

Yeah was asleep still. Oh well, Can't account for the old choke job.

**newjerseydevils** · 07-14-10, 07:16 AM

hahaha....true that

**SRBI** · 07-14-10, 07:39 AM

Dunno if any of you are on it...but Zverev +4 vs Melzer is a great play, go head and punch it in if you feel the same.