EP36's Tennis Talk

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 01:40 PM

LU +195
This is taking a pop on principle. Yes, Lu went three grueling hours last night to outlast Mathieu, but what has Kohlschreiber done to deserve this monster favorite's line? Kohly took out Troicki who went back to playing like a putz yesterday after his big win over Cilic the day before. That wasn't so unexpected. Kohlschreiber did drop a lopsided set along the way to beating Troicki too. Just looking at the German on outdoor hard courts, he's been good, but not always great. He could well walk away with an easy win here, but Lu battles pretty well on this surface so I'll take a shot that Kohlschreiber isn't able to be consistent the whole match.

**rzr** · 08-12-10, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

FEDERER-LLODRA OVER 21 [-135]
Llodra has been able to pump his serve in for cheap points this week and has been solid with it, only being broken once thus far. He'll need to try and get more first serves in to keep the pressure off his second serve. Federer was solid in his opening match with Chela, serving up nine aces and getting in a high percentage of his first serves. He was broken just once. If Llodra holds his serve well today and shows a good nerve, I think the over has an excellent shot.

Nice get on this one!

Llodra broke at 6-7, 1-5 down then held to secure the win.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 02:16 PM

That was a nail biter, thought Llodra was gonna screw that one up.

**Goat Milk** · 08-12-10, 02:26 PM

get it

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 02:47 PM

DOUBLES PLAY: PESCHKE-SREBOTNIK -115
Going with the experience angle again here. This duo has been so solid this year with six finals appearances covering all the major surfaces. They draw Azarenka & Kirilenko who have teamed up just once this season albeit with good success, going 2-1 at the Stanford tournament. Only real drawback to Peschke-Srebotnik is that they have been off doubles since Wimbledon. Might start slow, but I fancy them to get it done.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 03:24 PM

Andy Murray must have friends who bet on the over. WTF is he doing in the 2nd set?

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 03:30 PM

Pavlyuchenkova comes back from 0-40 serving for the match and closes the deal. 1st parlay complete!

Murray loses 6-0 in the 2nd. Bitch better refind himself in the 3rd.

**SRBI** · 08-12-10, 03:39 PM

What you think about Nestor/Zimonic double? These guys are an absolute machine as far as I can remember in doubles.

Line is a little juiced at -200 but I think they get the job done EZ.

Thoughts, maestro EP?

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 03:44 PM

Wasn't sure about that one man, seemed like it was too low ya know? They lost in DC to a Stepanek-led team and flamed out early at Wimbledon too. Decided it was too tricky to figure out. They are the better team, but Stepanek might have learned some from last week to pass along to his new partner this week.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 03:46 PM

Sharapova lays the smack down on Ag-Rad again. Murray gets an early break. Seriously wondering if he didn't tank the 2nd set for some sort of betting angle for someone .. honestly.

**SRBI** · 08-12-10, 03:48 PM

Thanks for the input. I'll skip it. About Murray - looks to me like he tanked that 2nd set on purpose to save energy? I dunno, obvious tankjob though.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 03:52 PM

Seems stupid to conserve energy though when you just won 6-2. I really think it was gambling related. Call me a purist.

**SRBI** · 08-12-10, 04:03 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Seems stupid to conserve energy though when you just won 6-2. I really think it was gambling related. Call me a purist.

EP a 'purist' - never

I'm with you on the 'gambling-related' thing, trust me, been doin this long and burnt enough times to accept the fact.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 04:09 PM

I meant a tennis purist and as a tennis purist, we all know there are a ton of fixes in this sport.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 04:25 PM

NADAL-ANDERSON OVER 20 [-150]
The chalk is high here, but Anderson's serve means this has a legit shot for me. Anderson certainly isn't untouchable on-serve. If he was, he'd be a much better and higher ranked player. Still, Nadal hasn't faced a big server in awhile and seeing the thunder from Anderson will take a little getting used to. If Anderson's serve is on from Jump Street, you'd think that would mean at least a tight opening set that can net 10-13 games. Anderson shouldn't be frazzled here as he's been in pretty decent form through the US Open Series so far.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 04:27 PM

Murray wins. 2nd parlay complete. I think Lu had his chance to win against Kohlschreiber in the 2nd set, but couldn't convert his break opps. 3rd set will be interesting, definitely worth the ride at +195 even though I'm guessing he'll fail. Doubles play off to a rousing start kind of as expected as they are getting rolled through a rusty first set. Hopefully they get their shit together in the 2nd and get to the super breaker.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 04:39 PM

Lu completely out of gas. Too bad. Looks like the afternoon is going to end with a fizzle.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 07:18 PM

Figures. Anderson's serve not good tonight.

**ji03** · 08-12-10, 07:59 PM

Just broke to get back on serve in the 2nd set. You can always hope for a tie-breaker to get the over.

**lasker** · 08-12-10, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Sharapova lays the smack down on Ag-Rad again. Murray gets an early break. Seriously wondering if he didn't tank the 2nd set for some sort of betting angle for someone .. honestly.

I hate to agree, but it is suspicious. He wasn't even trying in that second set. As was posted in Shari's thread:

Originally posted by Mirar Baseball

Or maybe - just maybe - the Scott is schooling a couple British offshore books*.

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*set betting Murray vs Monfils
-130 murray to win 2-0
+330 murray to win 2-1

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 08:13 PM

Got it. Thanks for donating that one break Rafa, now finish him! Need to keep your alive for my futures. Speaking of which, lost the longshot on Soderling today. Berdych still alive. Don't know if he's playing well enough now to beat Roger this time though. Federer has to be motivated to beat him this time ... maybe.

**TopGun1** · 08-12-10, 08:25 PM

I have Nadal and a bit on Berdych to win the tournament also EP. If Berdych is healthy he has a shot against Feds, but he was carrying some sort of knee issue against Dolgopolov in the third set which worries me. Only one night to rest after a tough three setter, so lets see.

Come on Berdych, beat him again!

**Mirar Baseball** · 08-12-10, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

Got it. Thanks for donating that one break Rafa, now finish him! Need to keep your alive for my futures. Speaking of which, lost the longshot on Soderling today. Berdych still alive. Don't know if he's playing well enough now to beat Roger this time though. Federer has to be motivated to beat him this time ... maybe.

Tailed your futures. Rafa's doing his thing. He'll end up winning every single set this tournament, about 35% of them in tiebreaks. Compare this to Querrey and Murray, who NEVER win in straights it seems like.

Vamos Rafa!

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-12-10, 10:17 PM

Feel good about Nadal. He should get by Kohlschreiber and then even if it's Nalbandian, I think he matches up well with him. I think I am going to cover the side of the bracket with Berdych in it with something on either Federer +385 or Djokovic +585 to win it all. Heat won't be a problem for Djokovic playing at night and he's owned Chardy. Thinking I might take the shot with him and hope Berdych wins too so that I'd carry both semifinalists and be guaranteed a finalist. Gonna chew on it for a bit.

**Tsonga** · 08-13-10, 07:17 AM

i'll be at the murray/naldbandian match today and the nadal/kohly.....what i would like to see is a nalbandian rout of murray and a nice nadal win....i don't think i will play anything on the matches because i want to watch and relax.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-13-10, 07:28 AM

challenger play

trevisan -125

**Yezzir** · 08-13-10, 07:32 AM

EP, help a brother out.

Did a $50 double on Kukishkin/Mannarino.

Kukishkin won easily, Mannarino was in play on Bet365, up a break 2-1, then it just disappeared, and my betting slip still says "to run". Any ideas how to find some info?

**stc9357** · 08-13-10, 07:59 AM

^^^^^^http://tennisbios.com/view/tennis-livescore3^^^^

**Yezzir** · 08-13-10, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by stc9357

^^^^^^http://tennisbios.com/view/tennis-livescore3^^^^

Cheers but no score there, still says result only, and it should have been finished a while ago.

**stc9357** · 08-13-10, 08:08 AM

They generally alsways have scores on target so I have no clue just wait patienetly another 2 hrs. but I use them to track all my challengers live.

**EaglesPhan36** · 08-13-10, 08:09 AM

You might have to just keep checking back on the usual score sites and wait for them to update the final for that match. I don't see it listed anywhere. I am probably in the same boat on that play above because it was supposed to be a live score at Bet365.

I swear tennis officials need to make it mandatory for these Challengers to have scoreboards. I understand some of the obscure ones maybe are tough to do, but that Istanbul one from what I remember reading has been around for half a century and pays out pretty well.

**onasius** · 08-13-10, 08:10 AM

As far as I know Mannarino won 6-4 7-5....a guy just posted it on twitter...i can give you a link if you want....but I din't find anything official yet

**Yezzir** · 08-13-10, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by onasius

As far as I know Mannarino won 6-4 7-5....a guy just posted it on twitter...i can give you a link if you want

Please.

Just spoke to Bet365 and they lost the stream, so just have to wait until they have confirmation.

**stc9357** · 08-13-10, 08:12 AM

Originally posted by EaglesPhan36

You might have to just keep checking back on the usual score sites and wait for them to update the final for that match. I don't see it listed anywhere. I am probably in the same boat on that play above because it was supposed to be a live score at Bet365.

I swear tennis officials need to make it mandatory for these Challengers to have scoreboards. I understand some of the obscure ones maybe are tough to do, but that Istanbul one from what I remember reading has been around for half a century and pays out pretty well.

Yeah it pays pretty well for a challenger that is not constantly updated 100,000 euros if I'm not mistaken!

**onasius** · 08-13-10, 08:14 AM

http://twitter.com/zaf_zaf as I told you before without any guarantee....I'm searching myself for the official score and the Kunitsyn live score...as someone told before bet365 took it out...