Honeybadger's picks

[NguyenImproved]

Badger was saying that on the previous page. I have them all over my parlays to win and some to not lose as my local bookies offer better odds on public bets like that; badger might be familiar. Anyways, it's hard to predict how the team will respond to a disaster like that in the 1st game; similarly to how Portugal will respond too. I am of belief that as long as things are good in the locker room, the overwhelming quality on their side will prevail. Badger pointed out few days ago how France had issues in the past but they had problems in the locker room. I see no indication of such turmoil with Spain and Portugal. So I pick both Spain and Portugal to win. I was very unimpressed with the USA's performance against Ghana..

Sorry guys. I had to quit this thread. The United Nations needed my services.
Bringing peace to the former Yugoslavian countries caught their attention.

Good to see though.



Before the Holland game I thought Spain was not as bad as people think. Right now they aren't as BAD as people think. Like you said they have a lot of quality.

The problem is they seem to lack an incisive edge. Who the hell is gonna score for them? They play a mean game of keep-ball but I don't know who the scorers will be when I look through their list.
Mata being injured is influential in this I think.

Anyways my 'secret knowledge' is out (ie. Brazil not as good as markets suggest and Germany better so). Today I don't really have any strong leans. But I will be interested in who finishes second in this group cos I think a bet against Brazil may be warranted if Spain manages to get that vital second spot.

In a potential Brazil-Spain tie I really favour the Spaniards. Brazil at the moment don't seem to be able to score through any avenue than Neymar.

[frugalgambler]

Hmm, I see a few other decent punters who are also cautious about Spain today, but I think they are too proud to go out like this and they should win it. Chile scored two fast goals against fairly shaky Aussie's D and then did not show much for the rest of the match. And I disagree with you that Spain will be the public play, not after that horrible showing against Holland.

I see that zec has already explained this to you: Croatia needs a win, period; they do not care about the goal differential. Which makes me cautious about playing over in that game, I might play Croatia -0.5/-1 after all or just skip it. As for the first game, I am starting to like Holland -0.5/-1 1H@-110. I think they will try to get an early lead and then coast through the match. Let's see how it goes. And after the first 15 mins it does not looks so good, the Dutch seem to have started coasting from the first minute of the match.

@Nguyen
You have a bright future at SBR, given how well you managed to insult me on a personal level from several angles. And that was after my fairly tame reply to your post where I simply questioned your judgement. It is all good, I am not here for your opinion. You have zero rep and pretty soon you will have negative rep, unless you start posting winners on a consistent basis. And I do not see that happening. All your reply proved to me is that you have serious self-confidence issues.

[NguyenImproved]

Hmm, I see a few other decent punters who are also cautious about Spain today, but I think they are too proud to go out like this and they should win it. Chile scored two fast goals against fairly shaky Aussie's D and then did not show much for the rest of the match. And I disagree with you that Spain will be the public play, not after that horrible showing against Holland.

I see that zec has already explained this to you: Croatia needs a win, period; they do not care about the goal differential. Which makes me cautious about playing over in that game, I might play Croatia -0.5/-1 after all or just skip it. As for the first game, I am starting to like Holland -0.5/-1 1H@-110. I think they will try to get an early lead and then coast through the match. Let's see how it goes. And after the first 15 mins it does not looks so good, the Dutch seem to have started coasting from the first minute of the match.

@Nguyen
You have a bright future at SBR, given how well you managed to insult me on a personal level from several angles. And that was after my fairly tame reply to your post where I simply questioned your judgement. It is all good, I am not here for your opinion. You have zero rep and pretty soon you will have negative rep, unless you start posting winners on a consistent basis. And I do not see that happening. All your reply proved to me is that you have serious self-confidence issues.

Haha.

Winning at betting and being popular are most often diametrically opposed. I don't expect your feeble brain to process that.
The winners I post will not be able to be computed by your inferior intellect anyway.
Ie. If I could convince you and others of your ilk of the logic of my moves then whose money are we dividing?

You are merely fodder. Providing the 'dumb money' so to speak. You'll have your ups and downs but you have a negative expectation over the long run.

You should thank me for enlightening you rather than take offense at the brutal truths you think I'm throwing your way.


My betting posts will probably be the most successful ones here in terms of winners/ ROI.
I can tell that much already.


And at the end of the day are we here to suck each other's d#cks or make money.



You are one of those social gamblers I detest. You obviously don't have the computational power required (ie IQ) to have any kind of an edge against other average punters. The fact you need to beg for tips is indication. I mean, sure ask to bounce ideas off someone abbout a play you like ..but if you can't even formulate your own best plays with your own eyes and brain...

What is your long-term future/ expectation in the game? Really.



Modesty and a nice demeanour (with a tad of passive aggression) behooves you since you have no value here except as the 'nice guy'.
I can afford to appear arrogant and my posts will still gain a following cos over the course, over the long run, I'm simply gonna be a 'better bettor' as well as providing entertainment.


You're very lucky you're getting all this for free.


PS If you wanna talk about rep your Holland play has already sunk.

Perhaps consider a change from frugalgambler to "non"gambler dude.

[sluggy1616]

Haha.

Winning at betting and being popular are most often diametrically opposed. I don't expect your feeble brain to process that.
The winners I post will not be able to be computed by your inferior intellect anyway.
Ie. If I could convince you and others of your ilk of the logic of my moves then whose money are we dividing?

You are merely fodder. Providing the 'dumb money' so to speak. You'll have your ups and downs but you have a negative expectation over the long run.

You should thank me for enlightening you rather than take offense at the brutal truths you think I'm throwing your way.


My betting posts will probably be the most successful ones here in terms of winners/ ROI.
I can tell that much already.


And at the end of the day are we here to suck each other's d#cks or make money.



You are one of those social gamblers I detest. You obviously don't have the computational power required (ie IQ) to have any kind of an edge against other average punters. The fact you need to beg for tips is indication. I mean, sure ask to bounce ideas off someone abbout a play you like ..but if you can't even formulate your own best plays with your own eyes and brain...

What is your long-term future/ expectation in the game? Really.



Modesty and a nice demeanour (with a tad of passive aggression) behooves you since you have no value here except as the 'nice guy'.
I can afford to appear arrogant and my posts will still gain a following cos over the course, over the long run, I'm simply gonna be a 'better bettor' as well as providing entertainment.


You're very lucky you're getting all this for free.


PS If you wanna talk about rep your Holland play has already sunk.

Perhaps consider a change from frugalgambler to "non"gambler dude.

[zec]

HB, great assessment of this game, I hope you put some on your prediction, I didn't but man they each scored at least two goals and 20 mins left and Cahill scored in 21st minute.. Well done!

[Honeybadger44]

@Harcoar

Yes, fortunately she retired, to save me from losing 3 units. And regarding trappy line for Spain, as Zec said, I wrote just that, in that preview for today's WC matches. So yes, I agree. It seems like a trap to me as well.

Hmm, I see a few other decent punters who are also cautious about Spain today, but I think they are too proud to go out like this and they should win it. Chile scored two fast goals against fairly shaky Aussie's D and then did not show much for the rest of the match. And I disagree with you that Spain will be the public play, not after that horrible showing against Holland.

I see that zec has already explained this to you: Croatia needs a win, period; they do not care about the goal differential. Which makes me cautious about playing over in that game, I might play Croatia -0.5/-1 after all or just skip it. As for the first game, I am starting to like Holland -0.5/-1 1H@-110. I think they will try to get an early lead and then coast through the match. Let's see how it goes. And after the first 15 mins it does not looks so good, the Dutch seem to have started coasting from the first minute of the match.

Frugal, you can trust me on that one. Public will be all over Spain. There is nothing that causal football bettor likes to do more, then backing a team, which "needs" the win. If that team has big names players, like Spain, then even better.

Yeah, Zec's infor was helpful. So, I am leaning back to Croatia here, maybe with that -0.75 spread, which you are mentioning. But I have a bad feeling about it. Will decide later...

HB, great assessment of this game, I hope you put some on your prediction, I didn't but man they each scored at least two goals and 20 mins left and Cahill scored in 21st minute.. Well done!

Thanks man!

I didn't took that "both teams to score" bet, to be honest. But I did backed my man Tim Cahill, with 1 unit @6 with Pinnacle. I didn't watch him that much since, he is playing in MLS, but it is obvious he still got IT. What a strike that was! I am sorry for not making that my official play, because some guys might follow. But, this was more of a fan bet, because I respect Cahill so much, so I decided to keep it for myself...


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[NguyenImproved]

HB, great assessment of this game, I hope you put some on your prediction, I didn't but man they each scored at least two goals and 20 mins left and Cahill scored in 21st minute.. Well done!

I predicted unders for brazil-mexico, and russia-korea. 2/2 in a tournament that's been an overs free-for-all.

I think Chile-spain will also go unders. Can't seeing it being free flowing. Both sides will be tense and chile may try and nab a draw so will stifle play. Spain doesn't have any incisive edge up-front so they may dominate for long periods without getting a goal. Could be 1-0 Chile.

Again I'm not an avid follower.

[JC1186]

@Nguyen
You have a bright future at SBR, given how well you managed to insult me on a personal level from several angles. And that was after my fairly tame reply to your post where I simply questioned your judgement. It is all good, I am not here for your opinion. You have zero rep and pretty soon you will have negative rep, unless you start posting winners on a consistent basis. And I do not see that happening. All your reply proved to me is that you have serious self-confidence issues.

Agreed and well said.

The guy has low self-esteem. That much is obvious. Probably not to him though lol.

[NguyenImproved]

Agreed and well said.

The guy has low self-esteem. That much is obvious. Probably not to him though lol.

Coming from a guy who pan-handles for pats on the backs for the occasional picks he hits & scans tickets to prove how smart his bets were.. that's a bit rich.

It's all good. Keep doing your thing man.
To be fair I admit you have SOME reasonable knowledge of the game and players etc but your overwhelming need to get people to bow down to your 'opinions' can be grating.

[frugalgambler]

Haha.

Winning at betting and being popular are most often diametrically opposed. I don't expect your feeble brain to process that.
The winners I post will not be able to be computed by your inferior intellect anyway.
Ie. If I could convince you and others of your ilk of the logic of my moves then whose money are we dividing?

You are merely fodder. Providing the 'dumb money' so to speak. You'll have your ups and downs but you have a negative expectation over the long run.

You should thank me for enlightening you rather than take offense at the brutal truths you think I'm throwing your way.


My betting posts will probably be the most successful ones here in terms of winners/ ROI.
I can tell that much already.


And at the end of the day are we here to suck each other's d#cks or make money.



You are one of those social gamblers I detest. You obviously don't have the computational power required (ie IQ) to have any kind of an edge against other average punters. The fact you need to beg for tips is indication. I mean, sure ask to bounce ideas off someone abbout a play you like ..but if you can't even formulate your own best plays with your own eyes and brain...

What is your long-term future/ expectation in the game? Really.



Modesty and a nice demeanour (with a tad of passive aggression) behooves you since you have no value here except as the 'nice guy'.
I can afford to appear arrogant and my posts will still gain a following cos over the course, over the long run, I'm simply gonna be a 'better bettor' as well as providing entertainment.


You're very lucky you're getting all this for free.


PS If you wanna talk about rep your Holland play has already sunk.

Perhaps consider a change from frugalgambler to "non"gambler dude.

Blah-blah-blah. Did not read it. Just the fact that you wrote another page to reply to me after I stated that I have zero interest in your opinion proves that you are yearning some sort of validation. And trying to get it from an anonymous internet forum proves that you have no life dude. Grow up.

[NguyenImproved]

Blah-blah-blah. Did not read it. Just the fact that you wrote another page to reply to me after I stated that I have zero interest in your opinion proves that you are yearning some sort of validation. And trying to get it from an anonymous internet forum proves that you have no life dude. Grow up.

Yes I understand reading can be a problem for your people. Anyway get the jail monitor to verbalise it for you.

Validation from you? It was more of a blanket condemnation. Addressed to you nominally but meant for wider consumption.

So you don't care about internet forums? Good for you. Extinguish your account.

[Dmoneytx]

Blah-blah-blah. Did not read it. Just the fact that you wrote another page to reply to me after I stated that I have zero interest in your opinion proves that you are yearning some sort of validation. And trying to get it from an anonymous internet forum proves that you have no life dude. Grow up.

[JC1186]

Coming from a guy who pan-handles for pats on the backs for the occasional picks he hits & scans tickets to prove how smart his bets were.. that's a bit rich.

It's all good. Keep doing your thing man.
To be fair I admit you have SOME reasonable knowledge of the game and players etc but your overwhelming need to get people to bow down to your 'opinions' can be grating.

Doesn't change the fact I think you're depressed. I'm no mug. When someone personally attacks people in the way you do when barely provoked, 99% of the time they're not happy with themselves.

Sorry but that's the truth. This whole "I'm superior" attitude isn't fooling everybody.

By the way I'm not attacking you in the way you have others. I'm just stating a pretty logical observation.

[Dmoneytx]

What's up HB my man?????????!!!!! How ya been brotha

You need to hit me up on the WC info, I have a buddy who knows almost everything about every team, it is gross, LOL...

So happy you are hitting the WC plays too man, I am on a tear, don't want to post it bec that is when shit goes wacky - lol... Talk to ya soon. Take care..

[frugalgambler]

Yes I understand reading can be a problem for your people. Anyway get the jail monitor to verbalise it for you.

Validation from you? It was more of a blanket condemnation. Addressed to you nominally but meant for wider consumption.

So you don't care about internet forums? Good for you. Extinguish your account.

Funny how you replied within a minute after I posted. Dude, seriously get a life ! Just to make it clear, this is the last time I will acknowledge your existence in this thread. I do not want to pollute a nice thread with bad vibes and meaningless posts. Also, there is a little button called ignore and the more you start trolling the more people will start to hit that button to avoid reading your meaningless diatribes.

[Dmoneytx]

Doesn't change the fact I think you're depressed. I'm no mug. When someone personally attacks people in the way you do when barely provoked, 99% of the time they're not happy with themselves.

Sorry but that's the truth. This whole "I'm superior" attitude isn't fooling everybody.

By the way I'm not attacking you in the way you have others. I'm just stating a pretty logical observation.

[JC1186]

Funny how you replied within a minute after I posted. Dude, seriously get a life ! Just to make it clear, this is the last time I will acknowledge your existence in this thread. I do not want to pollute a nice thread with bad vibes and meaningless posts. Also, there is a little button called ignore and the more you start trolling the more people will start to hit that button to avoid reading your meaningless diatribes.

Great, thanks. Completely forgot about that frequently overlooked (magic) button. This guy is just a toxic human being. I pity him and want nothing of it.

[NguyenImproved]

Ok cheers.

And Good luck with losing your money bro.
Think of me when you're begging for more tips in the unemployment line!

[NguyenImproved]

Doesn't change the fact I think you're depressed. I'm no mug. When someone personally attacks people in the way you do when barely provoked, 99% of the time they're not happy with themselves.

Sorry but that's the truth. This whole "I'm superior" attitude isn't fooling everybody.

By the way I'm not attacking you in the way you have others. I'm just stating a pretty logical observation.

That's the problem with the internet. In real life I'd hire you to polish my shoes.

[NguyenImproved]

Is that your woman in the avatar or a two bit ho you picked up off the street.
Hopefully for your sake it's the latter bro.

[NguyenImproved]

Hmm, I see a few other decent punters who are also cautious about Spain today, but I think they are too proud to go out like this and they should win it. Chile scored two fast goals against fairly shaky Aussie's D and then did not show much for the rest of the match. And I disagree with you that Spain will be the public play, not after that horrible showing against Holland.

I see that zec has already explained this to you: Croatia needs a win, period; they do not care about the goal differential. Which makes me cautious about playing over in that game, I might play Croatia -0.5/-1 after all or just skip it. As for the first game, I am starting to like Holland -0.5/-1 1H@-110. I think they will try to get an early lead and then coast through the match. Let's see how it goes. And after the first 15 mins it does not looks so good, the Dutch seem to have started coasting from the first minute of the match.

@Nguyen
You have a bright future at SBR, given how well you managed to insult me on a personal level from several angles. And that was after my fairly tame reply to your post where I simply questioned your judgement. It is all good, I am not here for your opinion. You have zero rep and pretty soon you will have negative rep, unless you start posting winners on a consistent basis. And I do not see that happening. All your reply proved to me is that you have serious self-confidence issues.

Good tip about Spain dude. If you followed me you'd be raking in the Chile 1-0.

[Honeybadger44]

What's up HB my man?????????!!!!! How ya been brotha

You need to hit me up on the WC info, I have a buddy who knows almost everything about every team, it is gross, LOL...

So happy you are hitting the WC plays too man, I am on a tear, don't want to post it bec that is when shit goes wacky - lol... Talk to ya soon. Take care..

What's up, Money! I'm good. Thanks for asking

I am really happy to hear that you are doing well with your bets. Just keep doing, what works best for you. I hope your streak will last very long!

I am actually not making many WC plays. I just post my thoughts on all the games, here in this thread and see if we can come to some good conclusions, together, exchanging ideas. Thanks for the offer, though. I'll hit you up, if I will need something.

Take care, bro!

[NguyenImproved]

Don't worry guys i can see this is more a social hangout for losers than a place to make money.

Anyone can see that the tips i gave were all winners (3 selections for UNDERS = All 3 winners)

But some people prefer a polite personable guy that gives losing tips.

Good luck with the Loser Squad.
I'm sure you'll pat each on the back and be able to commiserate each other after your losses.
This will make a good support group for losing betters.


I'll make sure to visit if I have a losing run.

Thanks guys and adios.

[brodie]

Doesn't change the fact I think you're depressed. I'm no mug. When someone personally attacks people in the way you do when barely provoked, 99% of the time they're not happy with themselves.

Sorry but that's the truth. This whole "I'm superior" attitude isn't fooling everybody.

By the way I'm not attacking you in the way you have others. I'm just stating a pretty logical observation.

Real shit! the fck is wrong with this guy forreal? i think he's cappinpicks to be honest

[Marillion]

Really no need to insult cappinpicks in that manner imo.

HB I apologize for posting offtopic stuff in your thread. I'll be checking your WC previews.

[frugalgambler]

I see that Nguyen started his thread and I wish him well. Anyway, enough about that punk. I am back here for my daily dose of input about WC. Honeybadger, thanks a bunch for talking me out of going as big as I wanted on Spain. Once again they had a golden chance to open the scoring in the 1H but they blew it and then just fell apart. It actually was pretty sad to see. But Croates came through though both on the over and -0.5/-1, so it was all good.

Three games tomorrow, and I am not that confident in any of my leans, but here is what I think.

IC vs Colombia: I like over for the first game. Both teams seem to know how to score. And African teams traditionally do not defend that well; but on the other hand both teams might be happy with a draw so they might play cautiously. Hmm. I might also lean Colombia -0.5 due to the home crowd factor.

Uruguay-England: Suarez is supposed to play but I am not sure he will be 100%. On the other hand, England is not that good of a team on a big stage and I am not sure why they are favored to win by so much. I might lean Uruguay +.5.

As for the last game, I would not be underestimating the solidity of the Greece's bus. I think both teams will be cautious in the 1H, and I might play 0-0 1H, under 2/2.5 and maybe Greece +0.5. Yeah, Japan has talent but Greece can defend and if they keep the 1H scoreless they might outlast Japan. But I might be overestimating Greece here. I would say I do not like any of the above leans that much so I would appreciate your input.

[Honeybadger44]

Rybarikova -3 @1.93 Pinnacle - 2 units
I feel that this line should be higher. Annika Beck is a talented player, but she doesn't have the game, which could produce big results on grass. She is more of a grinder, playing defensive tennis, far beyond the baseline. Also, her serve is pretty weak. Rybarikova on the other hand, had some decent success on grass in past. I am bit worried about her tendency for meltdowns in certain parts of the match, which could put the spread in danger, but I still believe that line should be closer to -4, so I gotta take it.

[Honeybadger44]

Chardy ML @2.22 Pinnacle - 2 units
I believe that I can recognize the trap line when I see one. Lopez @1.75 is just too good to be true, considering how he played in London and his style matching up well, against Chardy. When something like this happens, I usually just stay away. This time, I am going to back the side, which books doesn't want me to. Let's see what happens.

Crvena zvezda +3.5 @1.93 Pinnacle - 2 units
Game 3 of the final series. At the moment, series are tied at 1. After the opening win by Zvezda, in front of Partizan's fans, Partizan managed to "return the favor" in game 2, winning by 20 points! Game was actually closer then the finals score, because Zvezda narrowed the gap to only 3 points, 6 minutes to go, but then they missed open three, on the other side Partizan scored and-one + Zvezda commited technical foul and that decided the game.
Why do I see value with Zvezda here? Well, Partizan is playing at home, but without their supporters. Arena will be empty, because of the suspension, for incidents in game 1. Also, Zvezda will get back heart and soul of this team - DeMarcus Nelson. He was suspended for game 1 (like Milutinov and Pavlovic on the other side), because of a huge brawl on the court. He means so much to this team, that it is difficult to put that into words. He is the only point guard and true leader. Without him, Zvezda looks like a bunch of donkeys on the court. With him on roster and without home crowd, putting additional pressure on the refferes, I think Zvezda wins this one.

[Honeybadger44]

I see that Nguyen started his thread and I wish him well. Anyway, enough about that punk. I am back here for my daily dose of input about WC. Honeybadger, thanks a bunch for talking me out of going as big as I wanted on Spain. Once again they had a golden chance to open the scoring in the 1H but they blew it and then just fell apart. It actually was pretty sad to see. But Croates came through though both on the over and -0.5/-1, so it was all good.

Three games tomorrow, and I am not that confident in any of my leans, but here is what I think.

IC vs Colombia: I like over for the first game. Both teams seem to know how to score. And African teams traditionally do not defend that well; but on the other hand both teams might be happy with a draw so they might play cautiously. Hmm. I might also lean Colombia -0.5 due to the home crowd factor.

Uruguay-England: Suarez is supposed to play but I am not sure he will be 100%. On the other hand, England is not that good of a team on a big stage and I am not sure why they are favored to win by so much. I might lean Uruguay +.5.

As for the last game, I would not be underestimating the solidity of the Greece's bus. I think both teams will be cautious in the 1H, and I might play 0-0 1H, under 2/2.5 and maybe Greece +0.5. Yeah, Japan has talent but Greece can defend and if they keep the 1H scoreless they might outlast Japan. But I might be overestimating Greece here. I would say I do not like any of the above leans that much so I would appreciate your input.

You are very welcome, Frugal! I am glad that my previews, help you make the correct decision. You were right about the Croatia yesterday. You and Zec, convinced me to trust them again. I took them -1. It was not a big bet, but win is a win. So, thank you guys!

So, for today... Colombia-Ivory Coast sounds like a good one, on paper. In terms of value, I have to lean towards africans and I am probably going to make them my official play later. Despite that 3-0 opening win, I was not impressed by Colombia against Greece. It might sound crazy, but I felt like that. I am aware of the fact, that Greece can make every match, extremly boring and you then have problems with assesing the real abilities of the team. Colombia was very lucky to score a goal, early, because it forced Greece to open up a bit and play out of their comfort zone. I expected much more flair and attractive football from them, but I was not satisfied. Actually, when the game was going towards the end, there was a lot of nonchalance in their game and that is not how I want a team to behave on a such a big competition, like this one. Center midfield seems vulnerable and that should be a problem. With Guarin returning that should improve slightly, but I still think not good enough, to win that battle against Yaya Toure. Anyway, I think that these two teams should be even, while we can get Ivory coast +0.5 @1.85 . Great value in my eyes.
Speaking of o/u. At first, I liked over as well. As you said, both teams can score and Ivory coast has iffy defense. But still, looking at the situation in this group, make me believe that we will see more careful approach from both teams in this game. They both have 3 points in their bag already and they are not forced to risk too much in this one.

Uruguay-England. I didn't expect to see England as such favorite. Uruguay went from overrated to underrated in just one game, in my eyes. They lost to Costa rica. But, they are aware that both England and Italy are beatable. England played well in first game. As I said back then, they need another central midfielder to go with Gerrard, while Welbeck on the wing is not a good idea. If Hodgson realized that and he will not be too stuborn to change something, they could be dangerous here. I even heard some rumours that Rooney might be benched. Anyway, in this one, I would wait for the starting lineups to be announced. If Suarez will play, Uruguay +0.5 is definitely a play, which holds value. That is a player, which can strike, out of the blue sky. Very valuable player for his team. If he is not playing, then I might pass one this one. Especially if England comes out with players like Sterling, Sturridge, Barkley,

We mostly agree on the last one. As I mentioned after the first game, if Grecce manages to keep their net untouched for the first 30 minutes of the game, they are becoming more and more comfortable. But, when you want to beat that parked buss, you have to have a good play makers in that attacking midfield. To get the ball between the defnsive line and midfield and then rely on their individual quality, to threaten the opposing goalkeeper. Not that Japan has one. They have two such players in Honda and Kagawa. That being said, I don't see any value on one side or the other, at current odds. It seems like Greece is going to play with pretty much the sam squad , like against Colombia, and I don't like that. Their starting lineup does not pose any threat to opposing defense. Ball travels way too slow in midfield. Samaras is useless on the wing and Gekas is 200 years old. Fetfatzidis, winger, who entered in the second half, brought that much needed spark into their team and if he starts today and Samaras moves to forward, that would look much better imho. But, according to some preditictions, the lineup will stay the sam and I can't see them scoring, against well organised Japan... Good luck with your bets!

[Honeybadger44]

Ivory coast +0.5 @1.85 Pinnacle - 4 units
As I wrote above, I think these two teams should be evened up, so I have to take the african team at these odds. Colombia bit overrated, because of that big win in first round, but they will have much tougher task in this one. Even with Guarin in the team, they will probably lose the battle in the midfield, while Ivory coast's attack, looks like they can score every time they want. Wilfired Bony is a big threat in the box, every time he gets the ball, and I was not that surprised that he got adventage over Drogba in first game.

[zec]

I haven't seen this much action on points in a long time, I am posting where lines are moving; don't want to take too much of your time; simply say lean one way or other or if you agree, don't need to analyze why or why not..
Jenkins under 14.5 heavy lean
Lauvergne under 12.5
Tepic under 8.5
Small movements on Pavlovic under 13.5 and Marjanovic under 9.5.
All unders, maybe because of the suspended players coming back, people anticipating points to be spread. But man Lauvergne scored 26 in the first one, not sure about the second one, just don't see how that one makes sense..

[Honeybadger44]

You know that I simply can't say where am I leaning, without explaining why

Jenkins lean to the under, because this is too high of a line. He is a streaky scorer. He can drop 20+ on anyone, when he is hot, but the line should be somewhere around 12, imho.

I wouldn't dare going with under on Lauvergne. In Zvezda, Radenovic is the only guy who can defend Lauvergne and he got injured last game. It is unceratin if he is going to play or not. Mitrovic is physicaly not strong enough to battle for position in the paint with Lauvergne, while Dragicevic is simply a poor defender.

After being pretty productive recently, Tepic cooled of a bit in this final series. It seems like, he got a completely new role here, where he is more focused on setting their team mates up for the shots, then him taking those himself. Lean to the under.

Pavlovic's line is just about right. It could go either way. While for Marjanovic, I will going to lean towards over. In first 2 games, it was ridiculos, how quickly he got into foul troubles. Zvezda put a lot of pressure on refferes, for this game, to be more careful about calling fouls on Marjanovic. Becuase, it was unbeliavable, how quickly, they called fouls on him, while other way around, he got beaten up in the paint, like a dog and refferes did nothing to protect him. After Zvezda's officials called out refferes on this situation, like this, I believe they will adjust criteria a bit, for Marjanovic, calling it more fair in this game. That can only mean one thing. Partizan centers, need to watch out!

[zec]

Thanks, Also one guy I follow played Blazic over 11.5. Would you agree with that?

[Honeybadger44]

Thanks, Also one guy I follow played Blazic over 11.5. Would you agree with that?

I would. Always playing on his highest level in every game against Partizan. Always first one running the fast break. Good slasher, solid shooter.

btw, I checked one of your locals, to see what else they are offering. I am bit surprised to see Bertans at 12.5 . I feel he should be much lower. Since he came back after knee injury, he is not the same player anymore. Doesn't score the threes in that high percentage anymore and that is pretty much only thing he can do. Not to mention that he is backup to Pavlovic at SF position and also, every time when he is on court, Simonovic covers him and he does it really well.

[zec]

Btw, can you open psk website? It's been down for me the whole week but I am out of the country so I don't know if that has something to do with it and no one from psk is responding to my emails but one guy on Facebook said it started working for him..