Betus scam

**EASY_MONEY72** · 05-22-12, 04:40 PM

AND SORRY I POSTED THIS IN THE WRONG FORUM, BUT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW TO GET THEIR MONEY OUT OF THERE.

LOUSY $300 FREE PLAY, AND i HAVE TO BET $7800 TO GET MY MONEY OUT.

**bamaatlsu** · 05-22-12, 05:04 PM

How much did you deposit to get the $300 free play?

**hallandale** · 05-22-12, 07:54 PM

Haf a bad experience a few years ago trying to collect a lousy 600 .had to wait six weeks.I never played with them again...

**BranchDavidian** · 05-23-12, 08:40 AM

It is industry standard to use the lessor of the risk/win amount. $100 to win $50 should only work off $50 of roll-over. However, the bad thing about BetUs is that they only count baseball bets for half of that value. So, if baseball is the market, that $100 to win $50 will only work off $25 of your roll-over,

**EASY_MONEY72** · 05-30-12, 09:09 PM

have now met the rollover requirements by making $13,000 in wagers for a lousy $300 free play.

Became a "GOLD MEMBER" because of this though - and they forced me to take another $50 free play or I wouldnt get a free payout. I have to roll that over 3 times as well.

have been waiting 8 days for a CC that has never come that they are supposed to "load" so I can get my payouts.

Can;t wait to see the explanation for why I havent received that card in the mail when i call back in about a week because it still wont be here I am sure.

**durito** · 05-30-12, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by EASY_MONEY72

NOW, THEY ARE TELLING ME THAT IF YOU BET 100 TO WIN 50, ONLY THE 50 COUNTS TOWARD ROLLOVER.

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the only sportsbook that doesnt have the same rule is WSEX

**sharpcat** · 05-30-12, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by EASY_MONEY72

have now met the rollover requirements by making $13,000 in wagers for a lousy $300 free play.

Became a "GOLD MEMBER" because of this though - and they forced me to take another $50 free play or I wouldnt get a free payout. I have to roll that over 3 times as well.

have been waiting 8 days for a CC that has never come that they are supposed to "load" so I can get my payouts.

Can;t wait to see the explanation for why I havent received that card in the mail when i call back in about a week because it still wont be here I am sure.

I couldn't read this post. For some reason you forgot to turn your caps lock on and the text was unreadable.

**Fred Flintstone** · 05-30-12, 11:06 PM

How this book still gets people to send them money is a miracle- Biggest thieves around

**tommygun** · 05-31-12, 12:16 AM

Mistake #1: Playing at BETUS

**Jeffie** · 05-31-12, 01:10 AM

Yeah i wish i knew about sbr before i opened up an account. It was the first deposit i ever made, even with money in my account they called me everyday about making a deposit. They even scammed me out of a 7 team parlay and were beyond rude to me on the phone. I wish i had sbr to help back then stay away from this book.

**tommygun** · 05-31-12, 02:04 AM

Originally posted by Jeffie

Yeah i wish i knew about sbr before i opened up an account. It was the first deposit i ever made, even with money in my account they called me everyday about making a deposit. They even scammed me out of a 7 team parlay and were beyond rude to me on the phone. I wish i had sbr to help back then stay away from this book.

how did they scam you out of that parlay?

**skrtelfan** · 05-31-12, 04:06 AM

You are lucky you even got your free play. They are well known for doing bait and switch on free play, offering 100% free play, you ask if you are eligible and they say yes, then you deposit and they say sorry you are only eligible for 10% free play.

**Applejax** · 05-31-12, 04:13 PM

so many people have had problems with this book

**Jeffie** · 05-31-12, 07:19 PM

Originally posted by tommygun

how did they scam you out of that parlay?

I remember it like it was yesterday, last team i needed to win was the SF Giants they hit a walk off double and i was jumping up and down. I had a small amount on it but it was worth a few Grand i went on my account to look at my bets and it was graded as a loss. Because The STL pitcher wasnt the starter but the thing is he did start 2.2 innings and got hurt. I called them up and the guy barely spoke english i explained to him the situation and he said "No No sorry sir he no started game" i said wtf are u talking about he threw first pitch and pitched a few innings then he went on to say "A loss is a loss we cannot do anything" i tried talking to numerous people and they didnt do anything.

**dolson** · 05-31-12, 10:31 PM

Betus only counts half the amount of any baseball wager towards you rollover

what the fuk

**BET THE HOOK** · 05-31-12, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by Jeffie

I remember it like it was yesterday, last team i needed to win was the SF Giants they hit a walk off double and i was jumping up and down. I had a small amount on it but it was worth a few Grand i went on my account to look at my bets and it was graded as a loss. Because The STL pitcher wasnt the starter but the thing is he did start 2.2 innings and got hurt. I called them up and the guy barely spoke english i explained to him the situation and he said "No No sorry sir he no started game" i said wtf are u talking about he threw first pitch and pitched a few innings then he went on to say "A loss is a loss we cannot do anything" i tried talking to numerous people and they didnt do anything.

At every book I can think of that would be graded as a win. Whoever throws the first pitch is the starter.

**BranchDavidian** · 05-31-12, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by BET THE HOOK

At every book I can think of that would be graded as a win. Whoever throws the first pitch is the starter.

Even if a pitching change had occurred prior to the game, that would not make the game a loss!

**tommygun** · 06-01-12, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Jeffie

I remember it like it was yesterday, last team i needed to win was the SF Giants they hit a walk off double and i was jumping up and down. I had a small amount on it but it was worth a few Grand i went on my account to look at my bets and it was graded as a loss. Because The STL pitcher wasnt the starter but the thing is he did start 2.2 innings and got hurt. I called them up and the guy barely spoke english i explained to him the situation and he said "No No sorry sir he no started game" i said wtf are u talking about he threw first pitch and pitched a few innings then he went on to say "A loss is a loss we cannot do anything" i tried talking to numerous people and they didnt do anything.

i'm sorry to hear that, i would be furious!

**skrtelfan** · 06-02-12, 07:55 AM

I had a similar problem once with a different shit book, the right pitcher started but they tried to claim he didn't, and I didn't get anywhere with CS. They actually said something about "being sick of this crap." It wasn't a huge bet but still very annoying.

**DwightShrute** · 06-02-12, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by EASY_MONEY72

DO NOT USE THIS SHIT SPORTSBOOK.

HUGE ROLLOVER REQUIREMENTS, NO ML BETS WHEN ALL OTHER SPORTS BOOKS OFFER THEM,

NOW, THEY ARE TELLING ME THAT IF YOU BET 100 TO WIN 50, ONLY THE 50 COUNTS TOWARD ROLLOVER.

lmfao AT THIS SHIT SPORTSBOOK.

That is the industry standard. That's why you should read the rules that they place of their website OR contact them for clarification if you arent sure. Didn't you ask how the bonus works at the time you accepted it?

Seems like much do do about nothing.

**dolson** · 06-02-12, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by Jeffie

I remember it like it was yesterday, last team i needed to win was the SF Giants they hit a walk off double and i was jumping up and down. I had a small amount on it but it was worth a few Grand i went on my account to look at my bets and it was graded as a loss. Because The STL pitcher wasnt the starter but the thing is he did start 2.2 innings and got hurt. I called them up and the guy barely spoke english i explained to him the situation and he said "No No sorry sir he no started game" i said wtf are u talking about he threw first pitch and pitched a few innings then he went on to say "A loss is a loss we cannot do anything" i tried talking to numerous people and they didnt do anything.

If the starting pitcher doesn't start then the result should be a "no action" or push, the rest of the parlay winnings should have been paid.

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-07-12, 05:39 PM

I still have not been PAID or seen the ALLEGED CC they were sending me. Check the date i started this thread. I have now met my rollver, bets $16,000 in this book, and up up 3 times what I started with.

Pretty sure I am never going to see this money.

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-07-12, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

That is the industry standard. That's why you should read the rules that they place of their website OR contact them for clarification if you arent sure. Didn't you ask how the bonus works at the time you accepted it?

Seems like much do do about nothing.

the industry standard is not to have to wait 3 weeks to get a pay out, and to have to make $13,000 in bets to cover a 6 times rollover on $300. you are sadly mistaken.

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-07-12, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by dolson

Betus only counts half the amount of any baseball wager towards you rollover

what the fuk

half of the LOWER AMOUNT.

If you bet 100 to win 50, you only get $25 toward your rollover.

if you bet 50 to win $100, it is the same $25

**goblue12** · 06-07-12, 06:03 PM

Do they still take US start-ups?

**DwightShrute** · 06-07-12, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by EASY_MONEY72

the industry standard is not to have to wait 3 weeks to get a pay out, and to have to make $13,000 in bets to cover a 6 times rollover on $300. you are sadly mistaken.

I am not talking about the payout time.

usually if you bet $100 free play to win 100 then the $100 goes towards the rollover
you bet 100 to win $50 then $50 counts towards the rollover
You bet $100 to win $200 then $100 counts towards the rollover.

that's what I meant about the lower number counting towards the rollover. I don't have an account with Betus so I cant tell you with 100% certainty that they use the same system but I have 5 accounts over the last 10 years and the bonus rules are very close.

Best thing to always do IMO is talk to a rep or live chat them. Copy the conversation or have them email you how exactly the bonus rollover works. Or better yet, read it on their site and if you aren't sure, contact them.

I doubt it very much that a book will deliberately deceive you (what purpose would it serve?) but they have the right to make their own bonus rules. You definitely have some responsibility to understand them before going forward.

**tatommack** · 06-08-12, 01:28 AM

This book is a scam you will never see ur money sorry bro same thing happend to me. That's how I found sbr

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-08-12, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

I am not talking about the payout time.

usually if you bet $100 free play to win 100 then the $100 goes towards the rollover
you bet 100 to win $50 then $50 counts towards the rollover
You bet $100 to win $200 then $100 counts towards the rollover.

that's what I meant about the lower number counting towards the rollover. I don't have an account with Betus so I cant tell you with 100% certainty that they use the same system but I have 5 accounts over the last 10 years and the bonus rules are very close.

Best thing to always do IMO is talk to a rep or live chat them. Copy the conversation or have them email you how exactly the bonus rollover works. Or better yet, read it on their site and if you aren't sure, contact them.

I doubt it very much that a book will deliberately deceive you (what purpose would it serve?) but they have the right to make their own bonus rules. You definitely have some responsibility to understand them before going forward.

Fair enough that I should not "assume"

But their requirements are things like 100 to bet 50 is $25 toward your rollover.

The only bets that even count are ML bets, spread bets and RL bets....nothing live, no props, no other type of bet whatsoever!!

and you should not have to bet $13,000 to cover a 6 times rollover.

This is not the industry standard.

all that said - update - today I called them - and they claim (it has been 17 days now, and I have still not seen a CC for payout) that i am surely receiving the CC in the mail within the next few days as it should not take over 3 weeks.

also claim they are going to load the card.

i still dont believe that i will ever receive a card....and even less that I will receive any money. I am basically just gambling my balance there now like I do SBR points.

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-08-12, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by tatommack

This book is a scam you will never see ur money sorry bro same thing happend to me. That's how I found sbr

do you have a story to share to warn others or not?

**Chopsticks** · 06-08-12, 10:38 AM

Mostly good experiences with BetUS for me.... although I agree that it is not industry standard that baseball counts 50% and it took me months to clear the rollover. I remember that VIP had a weighting on types of sports as well. I believe that for every $10 you bet on baseball, $2 counted towards the rollover. All other sports were $5 for every $10. Slightly higher for ponies I think. The good thing about VIP, however, was that it was the risk amount that counted, not the lesser of risk and win. You could bet $1000 to win $100 and it counted as $1000 towards rollover. It was probably frowned upon but I did it a couple of times when I had a $30k rollover (if using mlb only) to clear. Good times!

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-08-12, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by Chopsticks

Mostly good experiences with BetUS for me.... although I agree that it is not industry standard that baseball counts 50% and it took me months to clear the rollover. I remember that VIP had a weighting on types of sports as well. I believe that for every $10 you bet on baseball, $2 counted towards the rollover. All other sports were $5 for every $10. Slightly higher for ponies I think. The good thing about VIP, however, was that it was the risk amount that counted, not the lesser of risk and win. You could bet $1000 to win $100 and it counted as $1000 towards rollover.

well - hoping for a happy ending but I doubt it. Requested 2/3 of what I am up (am up 3/1 over origional deposit.) Told them i was willing to leave a little bit in if I ever can see this money.

have seen so many bad things here and other places posted about them, that i very highly doubt I see any $$$.

If they do happen to get it to me, I will be honest and update here.

**DwightShrute** · 06-08-12, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by EASY_MONEY72

Fair enough that I should not "assume"

But their requirements are things like 100 to bet 50 is $25 toward your rollover.

The only bets that even count are ML bets, spread bets and RL bets....nothing live, no props, no other type of bet whatsoever!!

and you should not have to bet $13,000 to cover a 6 times rollover.

This is not the industry standard.

well, its hard to believe that is true to be honest. If it is, I can't believe anyone would take a bonus.

good luck.

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-08-12, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

well, its hard to believe that is true to be honest. If it is, I can't believe anyone would take a bonus.

good luck.

I have no reason to lie & I would imagine that most people are unaware of the restrictions and dont read the fine print as well.

I play through three sources - an internet based Vegas site, a local, and BETUS. This is the only site i have ever had

had always played through SBG before - they paid out well.

**EASY_MONEY72** · 06-11-12, 05:50 PM

Update. Now 3 weeks and stil no CC to load in the mail and no payment.