BetPhoenix - new mgmt again ???

[betplom]

Just visited the site - they are claiming new management.

I remember during the last few years quite alot of people making doomsday predictions in the forums that BetPhoenix was going broke and to get out while you could. Looks like they toughed it out and are still in business.

Anyone here still use them?

How fast do they pay via moneybookers?

What have your experiences with them been like (good or bad)?

[betplom]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/1519559-betphoenix-update.html

What's the situation with BetPhoenix?

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[losemyloot]

Have been hearing better things about them here lately. Do they still offer reduced juice when you sign up?

[Chuck Sims]

Bet Phoenix has definitely changed for the better.

Reduced juice for some players. Call them and see what they will give you.

[Chuck Sims]

Bet Pheonix payouts via regular mail have been the fastest in the industry. And they are not checks so you don't have to worry about it bouncing. I do not know the quickness on Moneybookers though. Hopefully someone can answer that for you.

My limits have been lowered to $100 on teasers and $500 on moneyline wagers. I won quite a bit there.

[dark star]

My limits at Phoenix are lowMy linits at Betmania are higher.Both places have paid me very quickly (and free)the last year and a half.If i do bust out of Betmania I will re-up with them in a heart beat.I am up a good amount with both shops

[Harmy G]

Yeah, new management that thinks it's a good idea to cold call former punters from strange phone numbers...

[betplom]

Bet Pheonix payouts via regular mail have been the fastest in the industry. And they are not checks so you don't have to worry about it bouncing. I do not know the quickness on Moneybookers though. Hopefully someone can answer that for you.

My limits have been lowered to $100 on teasers and $500 on moneyline wagers. I won quite a bit there.

Good stuff.
Thanks for the info.

[RickySteve]

A safe solid book. Don't expect them to leave the vault open like they used to but still a great out for anyone.

Don't expect great service via Moneybookers but you will be paid.

[Bill Dozer]

They are trying and have cleaned up the slow-pays. We are looking for updates on a couple of bigger players who were on a payout plan. Ownership is the same. Maybe they have some guys on the floor tightening up the ship.

[MBENZ]

Interesting,been shitcanning emails from there left and right.Without the usual suspect shills in this thread,they might be a worth a look again.

[BAUS]

A safe solid book. Don't expect them to leave the vault open like they used to but still a great out for anyone.

Don't expect great service via Moneybookers but you will be paid.

This has been my experience with this group as well. Some value to be had there occasionally. Don't expect to get paid to Moneybookers.

BAUS

[20Four7]

I was thinking of re upping with them as well, glad I found this thread.

[chance]

I can't believe anyone would play with a book who has not paid all it's debts.

[Legions36]

Hey if u guys say its safe now im game thanks everyone, i will take a look more at them.

[BAUS]

I can't believe anyone would play with a book who has not paid all it's debts.

What debts?

BAUS

[RickySteve]

I can't believe anyone would play with a book who has not paid all it's debts.

I'd urge you to file a complaint if you're not being paid in accordance with their posted terms.

[chance]

They are trying and have cleaned up the slow-pays. We are looking for updates on a couple of bigger players who were on a payout plan. Ownership is the same. Maybe they have some guys on the floor tightening up the ship.

When a "company" has clients on payment plans that is a debt. A solvent fully funded bookmaker pays all it's players as soon as they request their funds. They also have no problem funding e-wallets like Moneybookers.

I am not stupid enough to have money owed to me.

[RickySteve]

When a "company" has clients on payment plans that is a debt. A solvent fully funded bookmaker pays all it's players as soon as they request their funds. They also have no problem funding e-wallets like Moneybookers.

I am not stupid enough to have money owed to me.

No, you're too stupid to ever have the problem of money being owed you.

I will wait patiently while you read me off the long list of books that will pay 6- and 7-figure balances in lump sum. You have considerable personal experience on this matter, of course.

Some light reading while we wait.

BP took some big lumps (>5M) that 99% of books would have walked away from. BP stood tall and started paying because they are one of the few companies in this business with integrity. Less than 30% remains of what they owe and I don't hear anyone complaining.

Go back and play in the kiddie pool.

[JohnnyC]

No, you're too stupid to ever have the problem of money being owed you.

I will wait patiently while you read me off the long list of books that will pay 6- and 7-figure balances in lump sum. You have considerable personal experience on this matter, of course.

Some light reading while we wait.

BP took some big lumps (>5M) that 99% of books would have walked away from. BP stood tall and started paying because they are one of the few companies in this business with integrity. Less than 30% remains of what they owe and I don't hear anyone complaining.

Go back and play in the kiddie pool.

Why are you always on this book's dick?

[secretstash]

Why are you always on this book's dick?

they prolly paid him 50k or higher I would guess.

I have a friend who was paid roughly 65k by them.. slowly (5k a week) but surely. He ran up 400$ into a nice balance..They never missed a payment and that is what matters.

I was paid a heck of a lot less than that, but they paid me everytime I asked.. so I dont have complaints either..

with that being said I havent played here in over a year, so have no idea as to their liquidity now



-stash

[trumpdown]

Don't expect to get paid to Moneybookers.

BAUS

I only see a few ways to get paid out. If $bookers isn't an option and you're non-US that leaves only one other option p2p? Sounds screwy 2 me. How long you wait on $bookers? A few weeks or so?? or longer....?

Also how is the in-play wagering these days... how many events per etc...?

[chance]

A long list of bookmakers exist that pay six or seven balances straight away. Apart from the CRIS family they are all for non US players.

You would have to be stupid to fund a book in debt a week before the superbowl

[BAUS]

I only see a few ways to get paid out. If $bookers isn't an option and you're non-US that leaves only one other option p2p? Sounds screwy 2 me. How long you wait on $bookers? A few weeks or so?? or longer....? Also how is the in-play wagering these days... how many events per etc...?

From past experience, anywhere from 2-4 weeks for 4k.

BAUS

[increasedodds]

Are they doing anything larger than $2000 withdrawals these days? I ended up with far too much money at Betmania. Have never stiffed me, but the max amount is too low.

[chance]

$2000 max withdrawals is what I call kiddies pool!!!!