SBR Please Review Lowvig.com

**BAUS** · 12-24-11, 03:08 PM

Agree.

BAUS

**LT Profits** · 12-24-11, 03:17 PM

Aren't they just a BOL skin?

**RonPaul2008** · 12-24-11, 03:21 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Aren't they just a BOL skin?

BOL's email says it is a separate company that uses BOL's software.

**Frogger** · 12-25-11, 01:18 AM

Same software as BetOnline for sure. I saw -105 sides and -108 totals. Assume if you have a clue they will limit/cut you

**mtneer1212** · 12-25-11, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Aren't they just a BOL skin?

That is why we need SBR to investigate. No one is really officially sure right now, and the safety of funds are in doubt as well.

**LT Profits** · 12-25-11, 06:54 AM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

That is why we need SBR to investigate. No one is really officially sure right now, and the safety of funds are in doubt as well.

I hear you and I am sorry if I sometimes have a tendency to think out loud in the forum.

It was a legitimate question I was asking, I don't know the answer.

**losemyloot** · 12-25-11, 11:37 AM

I hope this lowvig is legit. Looks like they have reduced juiced all the time and not just the day of the games like 5dimes. A 5dimes/lowvig combo would probable meet all my needs.

**mtneer1212** · 12-25-11, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

I hear you and I am sorry if I sometimes have a tendency to think out loud in the forum.

It was a legitimate question I was asking, I don't know the answer.

Sorry LT - I wasn't being sarcastic. I legitimately don't know either. I liked BetOnline, except their CS ineptitude, but I am not going to run off to a new book without more info and some input from SBR.

**jjgold** · 12-25-11, 01:43 PM

Pass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**losemyloot** · 12-28-11, 12:28 PM

Does SBR have like a formal request or do we the posters just have to make our voices heard in the forum?

**PanamaBrad** · 12-28-11, 01:23 PM

strange silence from Lou and the boys. This should be relatively easy for them to check out. My guess is simply if you feel BOL is safe then lowvig is safe also. Wish I could play there.

**Dark Horse** · 12-28-11, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by PanamaBrad

strange silence from Lou and the boys. This should be relatively easy for them to check out. My guess is simply if you feel BOL is safe then lowvig is safe also. Wish I could play there.

That's a positive guess. The negative version would be that BOL can walk away from future Lowvig problems without a second thought; or pass on BOL problems to Lowvig...

It sounds like they're the same people. But one problem I've noticed at BOL lately is that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Communication across the departments is often very unclear. I've had several instances now where a question gets a wrong answer, and only a 'are you sure' type of follow-up question produces the correct answer.

At this point in their cycle (if there is a sportsbook cycle for the newer books), BOL reminds me most of Betphoenix before their drop. They too started out fresh, and began to lose focus and add books at about the same time.

I don't really see how this new skin could be a good sign, since there seems no need for it. If this had happened at a time when BOL was super fresh and dynamic that may have been different. But at least parts of the book seem to be semi-asleep at the wheel. So the new book is probably not an expression of a dynamic expansion. With a truly positive change out of the window, that would leave only a neutral or negative type of change.

We need to know what's going on behind the scenes at BOL, but if negative things are happening chances are that SBR is too fat and happy to report them to players until it is too late. SBR was embarrassed by Cascade, and honestly expressed it, but when Betphoenix went down its spiral (not as dramatically, but ugly enough), those voices were long gone. One reason for that is that players sign up for Pro status through these books. That ties in SBR income to those books for years, regardless of their continued reliability. I think it's fairly obvious that this dynamic affects -at least- the willingness to provide an early warning.

**bookie** · 12-29-11, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

I don't really see how this new skin could be a good sign, since there seems no need for it.

From the SBR-informed player's point of view there's no need, but probably BOL has started to listen to some marketing guy who suggests they have different brands to appeal to different market segments.

If we can't get someone from LowVig to come in and answer some questions and hobnob with the SBR powers that be and establish themselves as folks with resources and a plan that's probably because it's just a new website and a new complication for the BOL CS guys to try to deal with.

**faststeady** · 12-29-11, 08:31 PM

next you yanks will be kicked from bol,

bol has been improving stacks on non-US sports in past 12 months and i imagine thy have built the non-us traffic up to a level they are happy with and want to protect them by splitting their markets

btw , they're same prices for 1x2 , better on ah's and totals from a quick check

**ZetaPsi808** · 12-29-11, 11:05 PM

i would love to see a sbr mod/admin comment on this book

**macb** · 12-29-11, 11:57 PM

smells like wsex/matchbook

**OnlyMayo** · 12-30-11, 12:07 AM

I would like to see this reviewed also.

**mtneer1212** · 12-30-11, 12:07 AM

SBR? Anyone? Is this thing on? Hello? Testing, 1, 2, 3..........

**bookie** · 12-30-11, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by mtneer1212

SBR? Anyone? Is this thing on? Hello? Testing, 1, 2, 3..........

Sometimes low juice places feel like they can't afford affiliate deals, and maybe that's what's going on here.

**SBR Lou** · 12-30-11, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by OnlyMayo

I would like to see this reviewed also.

Hi guys,

LowVig isn't rated yet because SBR is waiting for BetOnline's official word on the backing and relationship. After those discussions take place, more information will be available.

**ZetaPsi808** · 12-30-11, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by SBR Lou

Hi guys,

LowVig isn't rated yet because SBR is waiting for BetOnline's official word on the backing and relationship. After those discussions take place, more information will be available.

ok thanks Lou

**HedgeHog** · 12-30-11, 05:31 PM

So the email they sent stating they were NOT related was "unofficial"?

**minet123** · 12-30-11, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by SBR Lou

Hi guys,

LowVig isn't rated yet because SBR is waiting for BetOnline's official word on the backing and relationship. After those discussions take place, more information will be available.

Plus it's xmas week in CR so you have to add +3 hours + a week
and it's the same in Panama(without the Tico/Tica time) plus next week it's three kings
so i wouldn't expect an answer till next week or so

**rake922** · 12-31-11, 12:56 AM

We are all looking forward to news on Lowvig

**RonPaul2008** · 01-06-12, 12:20 AM

SBR? With Betonline being a recommended book and there clearly being a linkage between Lowvig and Betonline why has there been zero official news and rating on Lowvig? Please rate lowvig.com SBR.

**losemyloot** · 01-09-12, 08:22 PM

Anything?

**Keith Richard** · 01-10-12, 08:30 PM

They do book transfers with Legends, 5Dimes,Bookmaker and DSI. Honestly, if THESE sportsbooks trust them then I think I can too.

**5mike5** · 01-10-12, 11:17 PM

saw a write up on them at osga

BOL "will NOT cover any balances from lowvig if something happens and this startup doesnt make it, kinda wierd huh

weeks went by b4 they would even return calls also, im sure thats why SBR hasnt rang in yet

for gods sake they didnt even have a phone, just email?? want to know why they said no phone # yet??? already pinching pennies...

SHADY AS HELL

**appleman** · 01-11-12, 07:50 AM

they are most likely the same company as betonline but they don't want to tell you that

**5mike5** · 01-11-12, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by appleman

they are most likely the same company as betonline but they don't want to tell you that

actually said they arent even financially tied at all...they just buy the same setup

**bookie** · 01-19-12, 11:57 AM

Anything?

**JohnnyFive** · 01-20-12, 10:29 AM

Still nothing?

**SBR Lou** · 01-20-12, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by bookie

Anything?

Originally posted by JohnnyFive

Still nothing?

LowVig isn't rated as of now. Proceed as you would with any other shop that's not rated (with caution).

**5mike5** · 01-20-12, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

saw a write up on them at osga

BOL "will NOT cover any balances from lowvig if something happens and this startup doesnt make it, kinda wierd huh

weeks went by b4 they would even return calls also, im sure thats why SBR hasnt rang in yet

for gods sake they didnt even have a phone, just email?? want to know why they said no phone # yet??? already pinching pennies...

SHADY AS HELL

even though SBR hasnt rated them....find the article on OSGA about them...will tell u all u need to know ( shuld be all u need to knw to stay away for now anyways)